Oh it's absolutely fine to draw some parrelels between oubre and Warren and this is the suns were talking about they have a long ass track record of weird **** with players.Ghost of Kleine wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:It's possible Kelly's knee simply doesn't feel right, not all rehabs go exactly as planned. Meniscus injuries aren't to be **** around with because guys who hurt them often do have additional problems down the road.Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Yeah, Frank has just been so disappointing. And Baynes constant injuries are troubling as we could really use him right now for frontcourt depth. Not to beat a dead horse, But all those close losses really put us in a difficult situation.
As for Oubre, I know it's an unpopular opinion around here, But I think that he's choosing not to play and it's actually a mutually agreed upon decision, As they likely have trade non disclosed trade plans for him as a result of his anticipated immenent free agency and discussed anticipated market value. Again, I know that it's unpopular to say, But to me at least, it seems eerily similar to when Warren didn't come back from his injury to play more prior to being traded. Not at all identical, but nobody really anticipated that trade, And then it came out of nowhere. And with Oubre, IF he was really committed to being here, And the teams' success over his potential free agency value, Then wouldn't he actually be wanting to be out there helping his team compete? Again, I do hope that I'm wrong! I really do, But I get this really foreboding feeling that Oubre, his new agent, And the suns front office have already sat down to discuss what he expects to get in order to resign, As well as his anticipated market value in 2021 ( resulting from his agents inquiries to other potential bidders) and they come to the conclusion that he'll garner offers outside of their reasonable asking price. Thusly, They've agreed to sit him as to not tank his potential trade value further prior to the draft and free agency. And also this decision has pushed them to promote Bridges and Cam much more aggressively than originally planned.
I also think that Jones has a specific intent to utilize Oubre on draft night, in a deal to potentially move up in the draft, With specific targets in mind, Whilst creating more cap space for free agency as well. 10 days to see how it plays out.
Or maybe there is some conspiracy and the suns lined up a trade in June when they figured their season was done and don't want to chance it.
Only time will tell I guess.
Also that Warren deal didn't really come out of nowhere, it was pretty widely known he was available and there was even rumors Indiana and Phoenix were talking trade right before that went down but those rumors didn't specifically mention TJ.
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You could be right on all of your points man. Obviously, no one really knows what actually the core of these situations aside from Oubre himself and the front office. Maybe I'm just ansty and somewhat neurotic due to our so many years of bad luck, worst case scenario situations playing out as feared. I'm also somewhat worried that not having our team at full strength ( No Baynes/ No Oubre) will somehow come back to bite us, Although we've admittedly been very lucky so far! Still I'd much rather have them out there playing if they can! As for Warren, At least to me, He( in the beginning) as well as the front office was pretty cryptic about their intentions up until the end. Such as no public disclosure as to why Warren wasn't in the promotional team advertisements for the " Valley Boys" and later cited injuries for the reason that he was not playing much if at all, Up to the point he was traded. And I do of course understand that it's just part of the business to keep these matters private until they are fully negotiated, agreed upon and ready to be completed. But for my part, I just see subtle parallels to Warren's situation and Oubres' in terms of being held out of play post injury, When similar to Warren, There has been talk of contractual implications as well as positional fit, And the ensuing trade rumors of potential availability shortly after. Again, I hope that I'm wrong, And that this is just a harmless peculiar situation, But the one thing that we can both agree on is that only time will tell ? First indicator will be on draft night.
I just try to not read too much into how quickly or not a guy comes back from injury because we just have no idea how their body feels and if it doesn't feel right you shouldn't rush back and risk a setback. Look at what just happened with Isaac. Heck that could have been the case last year with TJ too.
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