Can we please talk about what Adrian griffin ex has excused of him

[ruckus]

Well said brother, it's sickening to hear the ex-wife come out with personal matters between the two of them. Everyone has a past, but to keep dwelling on it and posting it on social media isnt going to sway me or many others to think any different of coach Griffin. We don't need these types of negativity especially going into the playoffs irrespective of how true of false the accusation is. Whether there is credence to this story remains to be seen.

I neither believe or disbelieve it - we'll see what comes of it. However for context these allegations must be well over a decade old since his youngest kid is just about to turn 17 and his other two kids are both in college on basketball scholarships.

If the accusations hold any truth, posting on social media and demanding attention are the actions of someone not entirely in complete grip of reality. It reads very much like an ex partner upset that the child support is now going directly to his kid and no longer in her control. If he has broken a court agreement then speak to a lawyer, you won't get anywhere with this approach to retribution.

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And what do you think of Coach Griffin? What do you know of him other than he helps Nick Nurse win games?

Does being good at ones job excuse them for being crappy human beings in other facets of life?

[OGLife]

i dont think its fair to expect kids to call out their parents publically

Well earlier in the thread theres a tweet from the 5 star recruiting son said how much he was proud of his father. Also, I'm sure if the kids were really worried about the child support money, they would let their mom know to get a hearing date to let the court know of missing payment(s).

Loving kids usually don't give a damn about when their child support money comes.

Also, this is just a healthy relationship she seems to have with the kids, publicity going out and embarassing them too.

Many times, children have a sense of a strained relationship between their parents but don't know the actual extent to how bad things really are. A lot of times parents will naturally shield their children from contentious issues like money and insist everything is ok when they're really not.

It's only when things bubble over and one party starts to make things public that all the issues come to light.

With 3 of their kids already in college, they probably have no idea that their dad hasn't been paying child support.

Considering its child support, they should 100% be the ones aware of the money. However, you can suggest that child support payments are so damn high that the kids rarely use it all up until they're the age of majority.

Also one their sons is a 5 star recruit, I'm not going to even believe Adrian has not been involved in his children's lives.

[OGLife]

It might be the case where they're too young to have phones/social media. I wouldn't really go looking for an absence of evidence in that direction.

No...I believe the youngest is in his last year of HS. Therefore, she's just money hungry.

Still, I wouldn't go looking at absence of evidence from the kids. It's not common for families to air dirty laundry on social media.

If you want to draw a conclusion, don't you think she'd wait until he potentially landed a much more lucrative head coaching job if she wanted to shake him down for money?

Well at their age, the courts side with who the kid decides he/she wants to live with.

[T_saurus]

I've worked in child support enforcement and if there's a court order there are proper steps to take to get a parent to pay what they owe and this is not it.

This actually hurts her, cause if he loses his job and receives no income he can apply to have the court order changed so he will pay less.

[OGLife]

People stay with abusers for many reasons. It's a psychological mind ****. You're sounding incredibly ignorant.

And if she is right, and he didn't pay child support for long stretches, then yes... she should get that money. Money that she shelled out to support THEIR children.

1. Do you know how they calculate child support? Are you suggesting that she would need or spend that much money on them on a month per month basis?

2. It's no psychology mind abuse. It's 2020. More and more couples are getting devorced for much less reasons.

If he didn't pay child support and she supported their children, then yes, she is owed money. For their food, clothes, bills, etc.

Being abused is not a simple thing. For some people they're hit and it's 'yes I want a divorce right away'. Other people endure years of abuse and due to confidence, isolation etc... they don't get divorced.

It's incredible to me that people feel they can tell women, who have suffered years of abuse, what they're doing wrong. Empathy is always the first step.

Care to show me the number of women who stay in those relationships because they don't work...money is the number one factor as to why they stay.

[M3tro]

The fact that she got out dismisses your half-baked claim. You don't have to believe her, but you don't have to believe the voice in your head that made you type that out, either.

She got out so far that here she is still talking about it lol.

When is the book getting released?

You mean she should keep her mouth shut? Oh yeah, you're really one for accountability.

The point is that she has zero credibility which you don't seem to understand.

She claims to have "receipts", show them.

[OGLife]

I've worked in child support enforcement and if there's a court order there are proper steps to take to get a parent to pay what they owe and this is not it.

This actually hurts her, cause if he loses his job and receives no income he can apply to have the court order changed so he will pay less.

Not to mention she made a lot of allegations and if she can't prove one of them and he loses his job, he can sue her.

[ruckus]

I've worked in child support enforcement and if there's a court order there are proper steps to take to get a parent to pay what they owe and this is not it.

This actually hurts her, cause if he loses his job and receives no income he can apply to have the court order changed so he will pay less.

Don't different states have different laws in regards to pursuit of child support?

While I agree that it usually isn't a good idea to make things public, I'm hoping that she explored all other avenues available to her to get what she believes she is owed.

[Duffman100]

1. Do you know how they calculate child support? Are you suggesting that she would need or spend that much money on them on a month per month basis?

2. It's no psychology mind abuse. It's 2020. More and more couples are getting devorced for much less reasons.

If he didn't pay child support and she supported their children, then yes, she is owed money. For their food, clothes, bills, etc.

Being abused is not a simple thing. For some people they're hit and it's 'yes I want a divorce right away'. Other people endure years of abuse and due to confidence, isolation etc... they don't get divorced.

It's incredible to me that people feel they can tell women, who have suffered years of abuse, what they're doing wrong. Empathy is always the first step.

Care to show me the number of women who stay in those relationships because they don't work...money is the number one factor as to why they stay.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/eight-reasons-women-stay-in-abusive-relationships

Financial constraints is one of many reasons women don't leave.

[RaptorsNorth]

But how would she know the man is sleeping with a teenage ball girl and if see has receipts wouldn’t she take it to the cops instead of tagging all the raptors reporters on the internet ? Now I’m not saying she’s 100% for sure lying because I don’t know but seems like a lot for the police to be ignoring. If you have big Hollywood top shots going down for messing with kids then why would the cops ignore Adrian of all people. For all we know the man left her and she’s trying to mess up his name and the reason I say this is because the same sh.. happen my uncle. His ex actually went to cops and filed a report of Him beating her and they arrested him and everything. He beat the case because his ex wife’s friend admitted she told her she was going to f... up his life. She turned over text messages to his lawyer that showed she was plotting to destroy his life. Seems like a whole lot for a guy to be doing and getting away with it when even more powerful people are going down so why would a NBA assistant get a pass for sleeping with kids ? It doesn’t make sense.

[HeadtopChunes]

I've worked in child support enforcement and if there's a court order there are proper steps to take to get a parent to pay what they owe and this is not it.

This actually hurts her, cause if he loses his job and receives no income he can apply to have the court order changed so he will pay less.

her tweets mention multiple contempts of court too, wonder how much living in Toronto and having this stuff in NYC court changes things? I dont have much legal knowledge

[OGLife]

I've worked in child support enforcement and if there's a court order there are proper steps to take to get a parent to pay what they owe and this is not it.

This actually hurts her, cause if he loses his job and receives no income he can apply to have the court order changed so he will pay less.

her tweets mention multiple contempts of court too, wonder how much living in Toronto and having this stuff in NYC court changes things? I dont have much legal knowledge

I'm almost certain that she can request the courts put a lien on his earnings that deduct the child support payments.

Nobody is suggesting what Adrian did was wrong during the relationship but for her to bring this to the media is WEAK move.

[Los Manos]

And what do you think of Coach Griffin? What do you know of him other than he helps Nick Nurse win games?

Does being good at ones job excuse them for being crappy human beings in other facets of life?

I don't think anything he said warranted an antagonistic reply like that.

And unfortunately in answer to your second question even if it was rhetorical, the answer is more often than not a yes. I don't like it but too often money (i.e. success) comes before morals in this world, which is a damn shame. Now the Raptors do at least from the outside looking in hold themselves to a fairly high moral compass so they will need to investigate, gather the facts themselves, speak to the employee and make a decision if Griffin fits their culture moving forward.

But until then, we have no obligation to give the accusations made on social media (and not through the courts) any validity whatsoever.

[ItsDanger]

Didn't Adrian get remarried a while ago? I think his kids are almost 18 so child support is going to end soon. Sudden public outburst and this point might explain it.

[PD28]

Loool

Wonder how those book sales are going today.

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[GreatWhiteStiff]

Could we please not?

Eh, I entered the thread and reaped my just rewards.

[Kevin Willis]

Alright, he's a terrible husband, but she seriously needs to let it go. Why are you dragging this ongoingly like it's your plan to follow him wherever he goes to seek revenge...

Not sure you're in a place to tell a potential abuse victim was her response should be to said abuse.

Yes and no. Yes nobody should be able to tell a potential abuse victim how to respond to abuse. No because it's alleged and the intent was hightly vindictive. Divorces can get very, very messy and very, very stupid with a ton of hurt feelings. Waiting for his proudest moment to slam him is questionable so she should not escape criticism especially if it's being handled by the judicial system. I understand why she did it but she shouldn't have done it, even for the sake of winning any case. It looks bad on her.

Plus our knowledge is limited to a tweet, we should not judge either way.

[Brinbe]

Wtf at some of these disgustingly chauvinist comments. This board really has some really suspect folk. Probably MRA incels

I will wait for an investigation but you don't have to tear his exwife down and needlessly cape for dude just because he's a coach on our team.

[ForeverTFC]

In fact, you are the one who is burning her at the stake. Questioning why she would stay with an abusing, accusing her of looking for a payday.

At no point have I said that Adrian Griffin is guilty of these accusations.

She willingly CHOSE to stay with an alleged abuser after multiple alleged incidents and is now trying to publicly destroy the man amidst rumblings of a head coaching position after already complaining about his financial shortcomings as a father.

You're right, money must clearly have nothing to do with it...

People stay with abusers for many reasons. It's a psychological mind ****. You're sounding incredibly ignorant.

And if she is right, and he didn't pay child support for long stretches, then yes... she should get that money. Money that she shelled out to support THEIR children.

His argument is pointless, if not contradictory. She stayed with him for the money but is now getting in the way of him getting more money that she would be entitled to? And what if she did stay for the money? Why does that make any difference?

MLSE/Raptors are a good organization. I would expect that they are looking/have looked into this internally.

[Leafs85]

I believe in innocent before proven guilty, but the least any of us could do is to pay attention and listen instead of being dismissive and misogynistic. Not necessarily specific to this case, but financial constraint is a reasonable factor for someone deciding not to leave an abusive relationship. This is not because s/he is a gold digging bitch, but because either the relationship was traditionally patriarchal in nature or the abuser, through years of manipulation, have created an environment where the abused (no real life work experience with children) cannot simply get up and leave. When you're in a privileged position, whether that is gender, skin colour, wealth, the utter minimum you can do is to not speak and act like an ****.