Can we please talk about what Adrian griffin ex has excused of him

[simmons21]

Alright, he's a terrible husband, but she seriously needs to let it go. Why are you dragging this ongoingly like it's your plan to follow him wherever he goes to seek revenge...

Not sure you're in a place to tell a potential abuse victim was her response should be to said abuse.

Yes and no. Yes nobody should be able to tell a potential abuse victim how to respond to abuse. No because it's alleged and the intent was hightly vindictive. Divorces can get very, very messy and very, very stupid with a ton of hurt feelings. Waiting for his proudest moment to slam him is questionable so she should not escape criticism especially if it's being handled by the judicial system. I understand why she did it but she shouldn't have done it, even for the sake of winning any case. It looks bad on her.

Plus our knowledge is limited to a tweet, we should not judge either way.

Lol, why should someone that's been abused (their allegation) give a flying **** about the "proudest moment" of their alleged tormentor. I have no idea about what's going on with child support/divorce so no comment there, but she has been tweeting the same thing for months now.

[HeadtopChunes]

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This is getting wild.

[ItsDanger]

Skimmed through her twitter for fun. She accuses him of narcissism but talks about herself mostly. Doesn't mention narcissism much at all before Jun 2nd. The STD claim is kind of a red flag. She's in real estate but only referenced 1 property on twitter past 18 months?

[yellowknifer]

Don't let facts get in the way of misogyny.

Or maybe, maybe, I'll just wait until the "receipts" get shown before burning the man at the stake.

Good to know you believe in execution before trial though.

In fact, you are the one who is burning her at the stake. Questioning why she would stay with an abuser, accusing her of looking for a payday.

At no point have I said that Adrian Griffin is guilty of these accusations.

Allegation without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[OGLife]

She willingly CHOSE to stay with an alleged abuser after multiple alleged incidents and is now trying to publicly destroy the man amidst rumblings of a head coaching position after already complaining about his financial shortcomings as a father.

You're right, money must clearly have nothing to do with it...

People stay with abusers for many reasons. It's a psychological mind ****. You're sounding incredibly ignorant.

And if she is right, and he didn't pay child support for long stretches, then yes... she should get that money. Money that she shelled out to support THEIR children.

His argument is pointless, if not contradictory. She stayed with him for the money but is now getting in the way of him getting more money that she would be entitled to? And what if she did stay for the money? Why does that make any difference?

MLSE/Raptors are a good organization. I would expect that they are looking/have looked into this internally.

Except you're twisting it. She mentions money when the season was suspended. What was Griffin's salary going to be this season had the season been shut down? These are all things he was probably advised on.

The only child she receives child support for is 17 this year. She has 12 months left to receive child support.

Do you honestly think she gives a damn about 12 months of child support vs ruining someone's career?

[Fairview4Life]

I believe in innocent before proven guilty, but the least any of us could do is to pay attention and listen instead of being dismissive and misogynistic. Not necessarily specific to this case, but financial constraint is a reasonable factor for someone deciding not to leave an abusive relationship. This is not because s/he is a gold digging bitch, but because either the relationship was traditionally patriarchal in nature or the abuser, through years of manipulation, have created an environment where the abused (no real life work experience with children) cannot simply get up and leave. When you're in a privileged position, whether that is gender, skin colour, wealth, the utter minimum you can do is to not speak and act like an ****.

Holy ****. You waited 13 years to break your silence with that post. There was a time when we would have all just assumed you were Contender but no one even remembers him, that's how long ago you signed up.

[Fairview4Life]

Allegation without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Her testimony is evidence. It's up to you whether or not you believe it. You might want to see more than just a tweet.

[yellowknifer]

Allegation without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Her testimony is evidence. It's up to you whether or not you believe it. You might want to see more than just a tweet.

By itself it really isn't. Sorry.

[OGLife]

Allegation without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Her testimony is evidence. It's up to you whether or not you believe it. You might want to see more than just a tweet.

Funny thing is, no judge gives a damn about the evidence provided in court for family law to describe the reason for the divorce.

They only care about the following:

1. What assets and debt does each person have; and
2. You have children? They can't provide a statement as to who they want to live with? Ok, they're living with the mother and the father will pay child support and the custody agreement is as follows.
3. Who wasn't working and is entitled to spousal support.

[Fairview4Life]

Allegation without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Her testimony is evidence. It's up to you whether or not you believe it. You might want to see more than just a tweet.

By itself it really isn't. Sorry.

Actually it is evidence. All by itself. You just might not think it's enough evidence or credible.

[raptorstime]

2 sides of the story

[Mattd97]

I'm just curious how much some of you think a book deal on a expose of Adrian Griffin would make a person???

[Leafs85]

I believe in innocent before proven guilty, but the least any of us could do is to pay attention and listen instead of being dismissive and misogynistic. Not necessarily specific to this case, but financial constraint is a reasonable factor for someone deciding not to leave an abusive relationship. This is not because s/he is a gold digging bitch, but because either the relationship was traditionally patriarchal in nature or the abuser, through years of manipulation, have created an environment where the abused (no real life work experience with children) cannot simply get up and leave. When you're in a privileged position, whether that is gender, skin colour, wealth, the utter minimum you can do is to not speak and act like an ****.

Holy ****. You waited 13 years to break your silence with that post. There was a time when we would have all just assumed you were Contender but no one even remembers him, that's how long ago you signed up.

I've been lurking daily for the last 13 years but just had to vent my frustration at the toxicity and ignorance in this thread. So quick to point at a woman and call her a gold-digger. We can do better. Even if the children don't agree with the mother's perspective, still does not mean she was not abused - he could've been the most loving father but still abused the wife physically and mentally for years.

[TheRealDeal]

I highly doubt his kids would be publicly tweeting their support for him if he truly did almost choke their mother to death

[Hero_Panda]

Why does this kind of stuff get on Twitter?
What happened to keeping legal matters within courts?

[notaname]

Well earlier in the thread theres a tweet from the 5 star recruiting son said how much he was proud of his father. Also, I'm sure if the kids were really worried about the child support money, they would let their mom know to get a hearing date to let the court know of missing payment(s).

Loving kids usually don't give a damn about when their child support money comes.

Also, this is just a healthy relationship she seems to have with the kids, publicity going out and embarassing them too.

Many times, children have a sense of a strained relationship between their parents but don't know the actual extent to how bad things really are. A lot of times parents will naturally shield their children from contentious issues like money and insist everything is ok when they're really not.

It's only when things bubble over and one party starts to make things public that all the issues come to light.

With 3 of their kids already in college, they probably have no idea that their dad hasn't been paying child support.

Considering its child support, they should 100% be the ones aware of the money. However, you can suggest that child support payments are so damn high that the kids rarely use it all up until they're the age of majority.

Also one their sons is a 5 star recruit, I'm not going to even believe Adrian has not been involved in his children's lives.

The money is not just for the kids to use up. Often, the custodial parent may make career sacrifices for custody. Has she spent many missed hours of work over the years for children's doctors' appointments, sick days, unable to take overtime shifts because she has to care for the children?

[OGLife]

I highly doubt his kids would be publicly tweeting their support for him if he truly did almost choke their mother to death

I just believe usually the vitcim is the one who manipulates the children. Not only that, he's apperently never there or sends them any money, why would they side with him?

If I was Adrian and I lose my job with the team, I will sue her for everything she's worth.

[Kevin Willis]

Not sure you're in a place to tell a potential abuse victim was her response should be to said abuse.

Yes and no. Yes nobody should be able to tell a potential abuse victim how to respond to abuse. No because it's alleged and the intent was hightly vindictive. Divorces can get very, very messy and very, very stupid with a ton of hurt feelings. Waiting for his proudest moment to slam him is questionable so she should not escape criticism especially if it's being handled by the judicial system. I understand why she did it but she shouldn't have done it, even for the sake of winning any case. It looks bad on her.

Plus our knowledge is limited to a tweet, we should not judge either way.

Lol, why should someone that's been abused (their allegation) give a flying **** about the "proudest moment" of their alleged tormentor. I have no idea about what's going on with child support/divorce so no comment there, but she has been tweeting the same thing for months now.

Thanks - you backed my points. Especially the bold above.

[OGLife]

Many times, children have a sense of a strained relationship between their parents but don't know the actual extent to how bad things really are. A lot of times parents will naturally shield their children from contentious issues like money and insist everything is ok when they're really not.

It's only when things bubble over and one party starts to make things public that all the issues come to light.

With 3 of their kids already in college, they probably have no idea that their dad hasn't been paying child support.

Considering its child support, they should 100% be the ones aware of the money. However, you can suggest that child support payments are so damn high that the kids rarely use it all up until they're the age of majority.

Also one their sons is a 5 star recruit, I'm not going to even believe Adrian has not been involved in his children's lives.

The money is not just for the kids to use up. Often, the custodial parent may make career sacrifices for custody. Has she spent many missed hours of work over the years for children's doctors' appointments, sick days, unable to take overtime shifts because she has to care for the children?

No. The court decisions on custody is based on who is more able to spend more time with children's schedule.

Child support is what it is, for the child.

Now, if she wasn't working during the marriage, but she was prior to the marriage, she can claim spousal support.