Can we please talk about what Adrian griffin ex has excused of him

[ATLTimekeeper]

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

She didn't stay with him, so there's no assumption to be made here that you can draw your conclusion from. If money was a consideration at one point, it wasn't by the time they broke up.

[Duffman100]

When people say support victims, it's to help people feel comfortable about coming forward. It doesn't mean assume guilt automatically. That comes from a good place. This isn't twitter; I don't see anyone here saying fire Griffin without any due process. I do see people here unequivocally calling the accuser a gold digger that's out to ruin this man's life for no reason other than being bitter. When people trash the the accuser without any personal relationship or knowledge of the situation, it's telling.

This is just it. Nobody has said Griffin should be fired or is guilty, just that we should listen to her.

The only concrete statements being made are those people who are saying she's a gold digger. Basically the equivalent to bashing a sexual assault victim when they come forward.

[MavCarter]

Wow if Masai knew about the allegations it’s an incredibly bad look on the organization that they spotlighted him like this. At bare minimum you have to suspend Adrian Griffin and have a third party investigation into the organization’s knowledge of these accusations.

What exactly would point to masai or the organization knowing about this?

[MavCarter]

Judging from her last tweet shes NOW coming out about this abuse. How tf would anyone in the organization know about this?

[OGLife]

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

She didn't stay with him, so there's no assumption to be made here that you can draw your conclusion from. If money was a consideration at one point, it wasn't by the time they broke up.

No, it still is.

1. She wants child support from him when the season was suspended. NBA hadn't confirmed how the pay would work, but he's supposed to pay regardless (100% what she felt).

2. He's getting HC consideration and he had a feel good moment which probably would have put him on team's lists to interview therefore increasing his earnings.

This was an obvious intent to destroy his life.

[Pooh_Jeter]

Masai needs to be fired. You need to do your due dilligence when not only hiring employees, but putting them in the spotlight like we did yesterday. Masai got glowing cover stories for his inclusion of women within the organization, yet he empowers an abuser? Shameful.

Let's not just burn Adrian Griffin at the stake, but also Masai for hiring him. All based on an unproven allegation.

How do people jump to such conclusions so easily...?

In this day and age it's much better to be ahead of things than behind them. A truly first class organization would have known about Adrian Griffin's background before enabling him. That is on the leadership.

[MavCarter]

Can someone whos blaming the organization atm legitimately tell me how the organization would have known if griffin was never charged or if shes never said anything until now which it seems like is the case judging by her last tweet

[mtcan]

I highly doubt his kids would be publicly tweeting their support for him if he truly did almost choke their mother to death

Yeah, if those are real accounts, I'm leaning towards BS on the wife's claims.

According to Wiki...he has a daughter named Aubrey and she plays ball at UConn. Wouldn't fit the profile of the person who tweeted that out...

[tdotrep2]

Masai needs to be fired. You need to do your due dilligence when not only hiring employees, but putting them in the spotlight like we did yesterday. Masai got glowing cover stories for his inclusion of women within the organization, yet he empowers an abuser? Shameful.

Let's not just burn Adrian Griffin at the stake, but also Masai for hiring him. All based on an unproven allegation.

How do people jump to such conclusions so easily...?

In this day and age it's much better to be ahead of things than behind them. A truly first class organization would have known about Adrian Griffin's background before enabling him. That is on the leadership.

He was hired before any of this came out so what are you talking about, the man aint walking around beating people infront of masai. Also his ex could easily be making this up, you know that right?

[Pooh_Jeter]

Can someone whos blaming the organization atm legitimately tell me how the organization would have known if griffin was never charged or if shes never said anything until now which it seems like is the case judging by her last tweet

She clearly didn't go public before this, but it's unlikely it was a complete secret. Organizations go deeeep into the history of draft prospects when scouting them (beyond interviews with them, they will have in depth character interviews with people all around them and can also hire private detectives to dig up stuff).

When you're hiring a lead assistant you should be doing to same due dilligence. Masai and MLSE as a whole dropped the ball on this one.

[ATLTimekeeper]

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

She didn't stay with him, so there's no assumption to be made here that you can draw your conclusion from. If money was a consideration at one point, it wasn't by the time they broke up.

No, it still is.

1. She wants child support from him when the season was suspended. NBA hadn't confirmed how the pay would work, but he's supposed to pay regardless (100% what she felt).

2. He's getting HC consideration and he had a feel good moment which probably would have put him on team's lists to interview therefore increasing his earnings.

This was an obvious intent to destroy his life.

I thought it was an attempt to get money? You can't keep up, time to start a new account.

[OGLife]

She didn't stay with him, so there's no assumption to be made here that you can draw your conclusion from. If money was a consideration at one point, it wasn't by the time they broke up.

No, it still is.

1. She wants child support from him when the season was suspended. NBA hadn't confirmed how the pay would work, but he's supposed to pay regardless (100% what she felt).

2. He's getting HC consideration and he had a feel good moment which probably would have put him on team's lists to interview therefore increasing his earnings.

This was an obvious intent to destroy his life.

I thought it was an attempt to get money? You can't keep up, time to start a new account.

It's always was about money.

[HeadtopChunes]

I don't understand on how you can be like "let's not jump to conclusions about Adrian Griffin" one end (which is a fair stance) but on the other hand, have come up with detailed motivations and psychological profile about this woman we know nothing about?

[Duffman100]

I don't understand on how you can be like "let's not jump to conclusions about Adrian Griffin" one end (which is a fair stance) but on the other hand, have come up with detailed motivations and psychological profile about this woman we know nothing about?

Because misogyny.

[DG88]

At this point there's not enough evidence to even suggest anything she said was true or false. To be honest no one on here should be leaning for her or against her. If true though that is both disturbing and sad.

[simmons21]

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

She didn't stay with him, so there's no assumption to be made here that you can draw your conclusion from. If money was a consideration at one point, it wasn't by the time they broke up.

No, it still is.

1. She wants child support from him when the season was suspended. NBA hadn't confirmed how the pay would work, but he's supposed to pay regardless (100% what she felt).

2. He's getting HC consideration and he had a feel good moment which probably would have put him on team's lists to interview therefore increasing his earnings.

This was an obvious intent to destroy his life.

What are the odds that you said/thought the exact same things with every woman that comes forward with allegations of abuse?Including one's that have be proven in court. Do you think that maybe, just maybe you have some unaddressed issues with women?

No shame in taking a step back and reexamining some biases we have, I had to do the same thing some years ago.

[OGLife]

She didn't stay with him, so there's no assumption to be made here that you can draw your conclusion from. If money was a consideration at one point, it wasn't by the time they broke up.

No, it still is.

1. She wants child support from him when the season was suspended. NBA hadn't confirmed how the pay would work, but he's supposed to pay regardless (100% what she felt).

2. He's getting HC consideration and he had a feel good moment which probably would have put him on team's lists to interview therefore increasing his earnings.

This was an obvious intent to destroy his life.

What are the odds that you said/thought the exact same things with every woman that comes forward with allegations of abuse?Including one's that have be proven in court. Do you think that maybe, just maybe you have some unaddressed issues with women?

No shame in taking a step back and reexamining some biases we have, I had to do the same thing some years ago.

I have no problem with women coming forward with abuse.

Women come out in legal matters and only inform people close to them.

I have a problem when you make it public with the intent to ruin someone's life.

[KrazyP]

When people say support victims, it's to help people feel comfortable about coming forward. It doesn't mean assume guilt automatically. That comes from a good place. This isn't twitter; I don't see anyone here saying fire Griffin without any due process. I do see people here unequivocally calling the accuser a gold digger that's out to ruin this man's life for no reason other than being bitter. When people trash the the accuser without any personal relationship or knowledge of the situation, it's telling.

This is just it. Nobody has said Griffin should be fired or is guilty, just that we should listen to her.

The only concrete statements being made are those people who are saying she's a gold digger. Basically the equivalent to bashing a sexual assault victim when they come forward.

And1. Its absolutely disgusting how fast some people jump to a misogynistic stance on the issue with very little information.

[Los Manos]

Can someone whos blaming the organization atm legitimately tell me how the organization would have known if griffin was never charged or if shes never said anything until now which it seems like is the case judging by her last tweet

She clearly didn't go public before this, but it's unlikely it was a complete secret. Organizations go deeeep into the history of draft prospects when scouting them (beyond interviews with them, they will have in depth character interviews with people all around them and can also hire private detectives to dig up stuff).

When you're hiring a lead assistant you should be doing to same due dilligence. Masai and MLSE as a whole dropped the ball on this one.

The alternate reality is that MLSE did do their homework and Adrian Griffin was entirely open regarding his ex-wife, children and the family court decisions. We just don't know.

Messy divorces are common, it isn't a reason to not hire someone. The allegations are clearly new and have never been reported to authorities even during the custody hearings otherwise criminal charges would have been pursued. I am assuming these allegations also weren't even included in the accusers two books that are both on the subject of marriage to an NBA player / coach otherwise we would have heard of it before (they are not mentioned in any interview she has done previously promoting those books).

MLSE need to conduct their own investigation immediately but it's a big stretch to assume they were in dereliction of their moral duty.

[lobosloboslobos]

That's a new logic. Men abuse women because they think they're more powerful. Money is directly tied to that.

I'm not supporting abuse. I'm just in agreement that she could have left but what was her direct motive to stay instead..

She didn't stay with him, so there's no assumption to be made here that you can draw your conclusion from. If money was a consideration at one point, it wasn't by the time they broke up.

No, it still is.

1. She wants child support from him when the season was suspended. NBA hadn't confirmed how the pay would work, but he's supposed to pay regardless (100% what she felt).

2. He's getting HC consideration and he had a feel good moment which probably would have put him on team's lists to interview therefore increasing his earnings.

This was an obvious intent to destroy his life.

This was an obvious cry for help from someone who has spent months trying to publicize her claims that her husband has physically and mentally assaulted her many times and that despite her attempts to get the courts to force him to pay his child support he continues to not do so and is 4x in contempt of court. Yes she is doing this when he is suddenly in the news but that's because she saw an opportunity to make an impact and guess what, it worked. If her claims are true then she is the one whose life has been destroyed and he is the one who deserves to be attacked not her. get with the program man. i assume you support black lives matter? or are you on the wrong side of that one too?