Draymond Green vs. Scottie Pippen

[Pg81]

Yeah, ok. That entire Bulls roster was "castrated" when the only change to the Top-9 man rotation was subtracting Horace Grant but adding Ron Harper. Sure....

A big deal to be sure because Grant was a really good player, but let's stop with the hyperbolic nonsense. I even picked Pippen clearly over Draymond, but as I've seen in the past, the legend of Scottie Pippen proving himself to be a Top-5 MVP impact type guy gets a little cloudy once you look beyond the narrative IMO.

And the nonsensical disparaging of Pippen continues pretending like Harper is even remotely as good or impactful as Grant especially on defense.

The matter of fact is that Pippen dragged that mediocre roster as well as many other franchise players were able to. He was the best wing defender of his time and a decent to good offensive player too boot. Many have him in their top 30 or top 25, Green cannot even crack top 100.

[Pharmacist]

Call me skeptical of the narrative that "Pippen proved he could be an MVP-caliber/franchise player". It was one season in largely the same system that won 3-straight Finals, and people always bring up the 55-wins, but then completely overlook the next season when they went 34-32 before Jordan came back. MJ comes back late in the season, and they go 13-4 the rest of the way.

I view both Pippen and Draymond as being a level below the true MVP-tier guys, and always have.

Wasn't 94-95 season, the season when they lost Horace Grant to the Orlando Magic, Jordan came back by the end of the season too if I recall correctly, wasn't in shape, so the Bulls didn't have the same interior defence they had the season prior cause Grant wasn't on the team anymore, and Jordan wasn't the same, ofcourse they would win less.

[Warriors Analyst]

Draymond is actually better in traffic. The way to guard Draymond is to leave him wide open on the three point line. the Warriors have not adjusted to this strategy. Draymond is an ok three point shooter but his best attribute is when he dives the lane or drives the lane and draws defense then dishes off for a dunk.

Yeah, the fact that NBA teams have not started treating him like Rondo offensively is completely baffling and IMO the biggest strategical failing of the last 5 years in this game. It's honestly shocking teams haven't tried it after seeing how much it destroyed Rondo. Instead you have teams literally using Durant's defender to double Curry at arc and other garbage.

I know this thread got bumped to talk about other things, but this post is quite prescient. Teams eventually did start doing that and man, did it hurt. It was very frustrating watching Dray pass up open shots in the last two years of the KD run. KD's arrival really only had a detrimental impact on Draymond's game and I think Kerr exacerbated the issue by making it clear that he didn't really want Dray shooting threes.

[jdzimme3]

Draymond is closer to Rodman than he is Pippen and that shouldn’t be viewed as an insult.

[Wallace_Wallace]

Both players play a completely different style both offensively and defensively.

Draymond Green vs. Ben Wallace would be more comparable

[ShotCreator]

Draymond was way better over his peak stretch. Especially on defense.

[PistolPeteJR]

Man there is an astronomical number of bad posts in this thread...

[mattg]

Draymond is actually better in traffic. The way to guard Draymond is to leave him wide open on the three point line. the Warriors have not adjusted to this strategy. Draymond is an ok three point shooter but his best attribute is when he dives the lane or drives the lane and draws defense then dishes off for a dunk.

Yeah, the fact that NBA teams have not started treating him like Rondo offensively is completely baffling and IMO the biggest strategical failing of the last 5 years in this game. It's honestly shocking teams haven't tried it after seeing how much it destroyed Rondo. Instead you have teams literally using Durant's defender to double Curry at arc and other garbage.

I know this thread got bumped to talk about other things, but this post is quite prescient. Teams eventually did start doing that and man, did it hurt. It was very frustrating watching Dray pass up open shots in the last two years of the KD run. KD's arrival really only had a detrimental impact on Draymond's game and I think Kerr exacerbated the issue by making it clear that he didn't really want Dray shooting threes.

Trust me it was frustrating watching teams not make a simple coaching adjustment that already had obvious precedent for working. Just didn't make any sense on any level.