Can we please talk about what Adrian griffin ex has excused of him

[icoholic]

What? Anyways, there is a statute of limitations on many types of alleged crimes.

So she didn't file police reports? I get women not reporting rapes because they won't be believed, but physical violence creates evidence. If she didn't report at the time, there's not much to go on here.

And yes, the US justice system is racist. If there is a chance to fill a spot in their for-profit jails, they will take it.

I know a few women who get abused, or have gotten abused in past relationships (physically and/or emotionally), and they've never reported their partners to the police (despite suggestions from family and friends). One of them even had a recording of her husband verbally abusing her and threatening her with violence on her phone. She deleted the recording instead of going to police. She says she "bears the abuse for the kids" (who are adults and have themselves volunteered to report their father, but she pleaded with them not to...). I don't get it, but there is clearly some psychological element at play in a lot of abuse cases that keeps women from going to police.

I am amazed by the people that still don't get why the police aren't called in a lot of these situations. It's usually men that question it.

[SFour]

innocent until proven guilty...the kids seem to be on Griffin's side so I'm skeptical of the accusations. If Griffin really did all those things do you really think the kids would be supporting and congratulating their dad on social media....I know I wouldn't be if I knew what was going on behind the scenes.

[visionquest]

He's a public figure working for an institutional employer. Not much to hide.

The courts deal with this sort of thing everyday.

We should let them do so based on the facts.

[omar36]

I have no opinion on this matter other than bringing it to Twitter and tagging all the Raptors reporters is not the way to handle family law disputes. The courts are there for a reason. If she's owed back pay on child support, the court is the place to handle that. If she's alleging he beat her, then the police are there for that. These public accusations without actual proof don't sit well with me.

Will wait for more info to decide who the piece of sh*t in the relationship is, but this public Twitter rant is bush league imo.

i disagree, sometimes some victims jsut arent ready to thell their stories and thats fine. its often a truamatic situaiton and there are instances that legal and normal means prove to be ineffective so stuff like this seems like a last resort

not saying for this specfic situation but look at the #metoo movement or the r kelly situation. speaking out directly can lead to change

[icoholic]

innocent until proven guilty...the kids seem to be on Griffin's side so I'm skeptical of the accusations. If Griffin really did all those things do you really think the kids would be supporting and congratulating their dad on social media....I know I wouldn't be if I knew what was going on behind the scenes.

Kids are a very poor barometer to use for abuse allegations.

[sycammer]

innocent until proven guilty...the kids seem to be on Griffin's side so I'm skeptical of the accusations. If Griffin really did all those things do you really think the kids would be supporting and congratulating their dad on social media....I know I wouldn't be if I knew what was going on behind the scenes.

The Twitter accounts do appear to be genuine & by the way, Alan griffin looks to be pretty good player, lottery pick for sure in 2022 nba draft

[Young_Buc]

Ehhh.... Id prefer if they kept this matter private until it's actually legally sorted. Mud slinging without proper investigation can end up damaging the reputation of many a person. People are not so excited by the truth but rather a juicy story.

[B-Ball Freak]

innocent until proven guilty...the kids seem to be on Griffin's side so I'm skeptical of the accusations. If Griffin really did all those things do you really think the kids would be supporting and congratulating their dad on social media....I know I wouldn't be if I knew what was going on behind the scenes.

I agee, plus I could be totally wrong here but I would be SHOCKED to the core if Masai and co. knew these allegations were true and kept it hidden. Like I said, lets the facts roll out first before we start judging people here.

[arbsn]

honestly i hate people who air dirty laundry on twitter. go to the police, go to the team, help lines, there is so much support for people under abuse out there. to go on twitter is not the right answer. maybe if the above solutions fail you can state that in the twitter post, but this to me looks like attention seeking.

[SFour]

innocent until proven guilty...the kids seem to be on Griffin's side so I'm skeptical of the accusations. If Griffin really did all those things do you really think the kids would be supporting and congratulating their dad on social media....I know I wouldn't be if I knew what was going on behind the scenes.

Kids are a very poor barometer to use for abuse allegations.

I agree....I said "kids" but Griffin's kids are more like young adults now so they're smart enough to know what's going on .

[icoholic]

honestly i hate people who air dirty laundry on twitter. go to the police, go to the team, help lines, there is so much support for people under abuse out there. to go on twitter is not the right answer. maybe if the above solutions fail you can state that in the twitter post, but this to me looks like attention seeking.

Are you new to abuse and how it is routinely dismissed? You want to believe she's lying, and that's one of the problems with domestic abuse and getting people to believe it. It's especially true of people with partners that have a certain level of clout or fame.

Do better and wait for information before you start leaning in one direction or another.

[omar36]

bit confused, the biggest accusation imo is the teenage hook up accusation

however, some things arent adding up to me, the kids seem 16+ so they arent children so these instances of abuses sound like they happeneda while ago so maybe the kids dont remember?

also, she says its court ordered and hes been in contenpt for 3-4 times, now that is easily verifiable isnt it? if he has that amny, surely there's somethign in the legal system on him for it?

[icoholic]

innocent until proven guilty...the kids seem to be on Griffin's side so I'm skeptical of the accusations. If Griffin really did all those things do you really think the kids would be supporting and congratulating their dad on social media....I know I wouldn't be if I knew what was going on behind the scenes.

Kids are a very poor barometer to use for abuse allegations.

I agree....I said "kids" but Griffin's kids are more like young adults now so they're smart enough to know what's going on .

I don't believe we have an accurate timeline for the alleged abuse, so it really doesn't matter how old they are now if the alleged abuse happened a decade ago. Our memories of trauma are unreliable at best.

[pingpongrac]

This is supposedly her daughter saying moms a bullshitter

Read on Twitter

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I don't think this actually his daughter. He has 1 daughter named Aubrey Griffin...she plays ball at UConn and I think she has a Twitter account that is all basketball focused.

Yeah I’m not sure how true it is myself I got this from Reddit and they got some old tweets and insta post or something linking her

There definitely seems to be some connection at least. She follows both Adrian and Alan (and they're the ~70th most recent follow out of 371) and if you go way back on her Twitter page, she posted a picture of a Facebook status she made (in 2016) in which her name is "Vanessa Dinyll Griffin."

Not saying that means this is all a hoax or anything. Just seems like they are related.

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[OGLife]

Alright, he's a terrible husband, but she seriously needs to let it go. Why are you dragging this ongoingly like it's your plan to follow him wherever he goes to seek revenge...

"she seriously needs to let it go".

I guess you don't have daughters you piece of ****.

Oh, if I had a daughter and she told me her man/husband was abusive I would 1) pack her **** for her 2) beat his ass.

I will, however, never tell her to go publicly and shot him down.

You call me a piece of **** all you want, but save it for when you need to explain yourself If you ever get caught in your lowest moments.

She is seeking revenge, but it's ok because she wants to bring up incidents that have nothing to do with what's going on now. Especially considering she goes out of her way to mention all these media members in her tweet.

I don't support people seeking revenge.

[carnage24]

Not a good look for the Raptors organization

[Pooh_Jeter]

He was hired before any of this came out so what are you talking about, the man aint walking around beating people infront of masai. Also his ex could easily be making this up, you know that right?

If potential malpractice from an employee in your organization has to be that obvious your organization is probably quite poor.

Anything is possible, but you should be ready for every scenario, not caught with your pants down.

So you're basically claiming that Adrian Griffin is guilty without having seen any evidence aside from this woman's tweets.

Do I have that right?

I'm not claiming anything, there were a number of accusations thrown out and we can't be sure about the validity of all of them. That being said, most organizations who are forward thinking wouldn't let this type of thing blindside them. They would immediately suspend the individual accused and launch an investigation. Instead we have gotten crickets.

This is an organization worth hundreds of millions operating in a multi-billion dollar industry, not me and my neighbour having a fight.

[OGLife]

Kids are a very poor barometer to use for abuse allegations.

I agree....I said "kids" but Griffin's kids are more like young adults now so they're smart enough to know what's going on .

I don't believe we have an accurate timeline for the alleged abuse, so it really doesn't matter how old they are now if the alleged abuse happened a decade ago. Our memories of trauma are unreliable at best.

You must have a terrible memory if you think kids don't remember incidents like the ones she's citing.

How do you think kids grow up to be abusive? It's mostly connected to their upbringing and the need for power.

[Pooh_Jeter]

Still radio silence. I support diversity throughout all teams in the league, but I can't help but wonder if this is reverse racism at work. If this was a white assistant there wouldn't be any backlash if he was immediately suspended pending an investigation. Can't have the optics of removing a black assistant who you just put a spotlight on yesterday. Not a good look for MLSE.

[Raps in 4]

Not a good look for the Raptors organization

It doesn't reflect on the Raptors organization at all.

It's extremely unlikely they knew about this.