Indiana Pacers Draft Pick Watch Thread

[coolhandluke121]

I'm not a moderator in this forum, and I don't appreciate you saying I'm not behaving like a moderator should. We're obviously talking past each other, so it's time to end this discussion.

Fine. I think any poster should be above that kind of nonsense. whether they're a moderator or not.

Can you imagine a universe where someone believes something is likely to happen even though they don't want it to happen? Is that possible in your logical system, or should the person pretend they believe something else?

[RiotPunch]

Also, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the threshold will be way lower. The league wants things to run smoothly, so they could artificially buoy the numbers despite the massive revenue hit.

[giannis and 1]

Would be **** if we got rid of this pick but does it really take a 1st to get rid of Wilson's salary? The guy's on a rookie contract how much could he possibly be making?

$4.5m, which is a lot when you're talking about a much lower than expected tax threshold. And it also means he would be the salary that would put a lot of other teams in the tax, so fewer teams are going to be willing to take on his salary.

If they add an emergency amnesty clause, that would make a big difference... but the Bucks will still have issues if they want to stay out of the luxury tax, which I'm sure they do.

Is an amnesty buyout sometihng that the NBA has seriously considered giving every team? There were rumblings in the NHL that each team may get 1 or 2 (like they did after the 2012 lockout), but it later came out that the league hasn't really discussed it much at all.

[LuessiT]

Also, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the threshold will be way lower. The league wants things to run smoothly, so they could artificially buoy the numbers despite the massive revenue hit.

Definately think this will happen. Though still a lot of teams will make operative losses and while the owners are all billionaires, their money is often tied up in assets they have to liquidate first. We're definately looking at a sellers market.

[coolhandluke121]

Is an amnesty buyout sometihng that the NBA has seriously considered giving every team? There were rumblings in the NHL that each team may get 1 or 2 (like they did after the 2012 lockout), but it later came out that the league hasn't really discussed it much at all.

They have done it in much less extraordinary circumstances, so it stands to reason that they are considering it. They've been trying to get away from that kind of thinking though, so I think the rumors are more based on their track record than actual knowledge of discussions.

[RiotPunch]

Also, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the threshold will be way lower. The league wants things to run smoothly, so they could artificially buoy the numbers despite the massive revenue hit.

Definately think this will happen. Though still a lot of teams will make operative losses and while the owners are all billionaires, their money is often tied up in assets they have to liquidate first. We're definately looking at a sellers market.

Oh, for sure. I just don't think the league will punish teams that managed their books to be under the projected line next season is all. Nobody knows until they iron **** out at the negotiation table though.

[LuessiT]

Is an amnesty buyout sometihng that the NBA has seriously considered giving every team? There were rumblings in the NHL that each team may get 1 or 2 (like they did after the 2012 lockout), but it later came out that the league hasn't really discussed it much at all.

They have done it in much less extraordinary circumstances, so it stands to reason that they are considering it. They've been trying to get away from that kind of thinking though, so I think the rumors are more based on their track record than actual knowledge of discussions.

TBH an amnesty helps other teams more than us. I mean sure, we'd be glad to get rid of DJ but some teams have way worse deals on their roster.

[BucksFanSD]

If we need to clear long term salary, I'd look at Bledsoe. And with that, I'm not sure if we would need to include our 1st rounder to get an expiring contract back for him.

[tski1972]

Depending on today’s final games the pick can be anywhere from 20-24.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I dont see the amnesty helping us. Helps Philly, Washington, and other teams much more.

[BucksFanSD]

Depending on today’s final games the pick can be anywhere from 20-24.

We really need Indy to settle down and lose this game. I hope Jimmy Butler is playing.

It might be the difference in drafting Theo Maledon versus Nico Mannion.

[tski1972]

Depending on today’s final games the pick can be anywhere from 20-24.

We really need Indy to settle down and lose this game. I hope Jimmy Butler is playing.

It might be the difference in drafting Theo Maledon versus Nico Mannion.

Problem is Indiana plays Miami today, which could end up at 24 with a win or 20 with a loss, and they’re both locked in to the 4/5 matchup, so Miami has nothing to play for today.

[emunney]

Depending on today’s final games the pick can be anywhere from 20-24.

We really need Indy to settle down and lose this game. I hope Jimmy Butler is playing.

It might be the difference in drafting Theo Maledon versus Nico Mannion.

Problem is Indiana plays Miami today, which could end up at 24 with a win or 20 with a loss, and they’re both locked in to the 4/5 matchup, so Miami has nothing to play for today.

But neither does Indiana.

[Isocleas2]

We really need Indy to settle down and lose this game. I hope Jimmy Butler is playing.

It might be the difference in drafting Theo Maledon versus Nico Mannion.

Problem is Indiana plays Miami today, which could end up at 24 with a win or 20 with a loss, and they’re both locked in to the 4/5 matchup, so Miami has nothing to play for today.

But neither does Indiana.

Three reasons I think indiana tries a little harder for the win:

-draft pick, Indiana doesn't have their 1st and Miami does

-McMillan is kind of a hard ass, i could see him valuing consistency and demanding effort on defense in a meaningless game.

- I believe miami is 3-0 against Indiana this year, is there something to be gained from getting over that hurdle with a win now so they have confidence when the series begins?

These are atleast the things I was telling myself while I was placing the bet. ☺

[raysbookclub]

DJ's contract next year is higher than a vet minimum, but it's a decent-sized expiring for the first year of Giannis's super max extension. Between DJ, Ersan, and Robin, that's $16.6mil. Added to Giannis's 2020-21 $27.5mil, that's cap room of about $44mil. That's just about Giannis's salary for the first year of the contract extension (under the projected cap, which may come down).

Doesn't make sense for them to trade DJ, esp if it costs a draft pick to do that.

[BucksFanSD]

Doesn't make sense for them to trade DJ, esp if it costs a draft pick to do that.

Right, you move a Tony Snell contract (2 years, 23.5 Million) with a late first, not DJ.

[tski1972]

Pacers win, so it’s pick 22, 23 or 24.

When the restart began the pick could have been as high as 18.

Stupid Pacers.

[mke_design]

We need to pick a PG. Grant Riller?

[emunney]

**** I just remembered we drafted Johnny O'Bryant

[AussieBuck]

**** I just remembered we drafted Johnny O'Bryant

I was so mad, that guy had no path at all to being an NBA player.