Boylen fired!!

Am2626 · Post #141 » by **Am2626** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:30 pm

wickywack wrote:I don't have a strong opinion on Boylen, but it's good that AK was/is empowered to make this call and wasn't handcuffed by Reinsdorf in the end.

It does make me wonder about the recent press on retaining Boylen for financial reasons. Was it a leak to force Reinsdorf's hand?

In a sense he was handcuffed because it took this long to make a pretty obvious decision. I think AK fires Boylen immediately if he could. Nonetheless this is great news and the Bulls can focus on bringing in the right coach.

Am2626 · Post #142 » by **Am2626** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:41 pm

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:As much as I disliked Boylen, it did not feel great reading that he got fired. Hate to see anyone lose their job. Hope he lands on his feet somewhere else -- he just was not the best fit for this team.

He is a high school level coach. That’s where he should land. He has failed at both the college and NBA levels. He has a lot of money so he should be fine. In my opinion he is lucky to have even had this opportunity to coach at this level. Completely under qualified for the job.

meekrab · Post #143 » by **meekrab** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:44 pm

LateNight wrote:And1's All Around!

[Feel bad for Jim, but I'm definitely ready for change!]

He's gonna get paid a million and a half bucks to not coach the team, there's worse things that could happen to a person.

Jeffster81 · Post #144 » by **Jeffster81** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:48 pm

FriedRise · Post #145 » by **FriedRise** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:48 pm

Read on Twitter

othawhitemeat · Post #146 » by **othawhitemeat** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:49 pm

League Circles wrote:The Bulls have had very disappointing coaching since the dynasty. Boylen was my second favorite after Thibbs which says a lot. Hopefully we can find someone even better than Thibbs. Thibbs has really been the only good head coach we've had in 22 years smh.

Oh man, he is the worst to me. The way he treated people across the board was just awful. I mean just watching youtube of his outbursts at University of Utah was enough. I know the Bulls have had crappy coaching, but Boylen was just a jerk. It is one thing to be a bad coach, it is another to be a bad coach and verbally treat peeps crappy to cover up how bad of a coach you are and be treated like you are good from previous administration.

Jeffster81 · Post #147 » by **Jeffster81** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:50 pm

coldfish wrote:I would also say that AK is probably pretty thorough and deliberate in how he approaches things. I suspect this is going to piss off the "instant gratification" section of the fanbase for his entire tenure.

I have no problem with them being deliberate in their decision making. I realize that will annoy a faction of Bulls fan but I rather AKME take their time and make the right call over rushing into a situation and getting it wrong.

othawhitemeat · Post #148 » by **othawhitemeat** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:53 pm

biggestbullsfan wrote:I think what’s most telling is that he had issues with the Team Chef . Like who ever has beef with the team chef. That was a foreshadowing If I ever seen one.

Sounds like there was bad beef had.

ArtMorte · Post #149 » by **ArtMorte** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:53 pm

Good riddance, he was out of his depth.

Here's hoping the new guy will actually be good.

othawhitemeat · Post #150 » by **othawhitemeat** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 pm

League Circles wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Next guy to dump is Steve Weinman and all the assistant coaches other than Fleming.

Wasn't Fleming the guy ostensibly in charge of the worst aspect of our team? I'm curious why he should be kept.

There have been leaks out there, that Fleming did not release full O based on what Boylen was doing and also not letting him fully implement.

TheSuzerain · Post #151 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:58 pm

League Circles wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Next guy to dump is Steve Weinman and all the assistant coaches other than Fleming.

Wasn't Fleming the guy ostensibly in charge of the worst aspect of our team? I'm curious why he should be kept.

He has Nuggets roots.

samwana · Post #152 » by **samwana** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:10 pm

Just as I canceled my ILP subscription...

But YESSSS it finally happened.. Now hopefully the only way is up!

Lauri is partying bigtime somewhere! And he probably has all his teammates joining in! Gafford being the first!

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Truebiscuit · Post #153 » by **Truebiscuit** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:24 pm

othawhitemeat wrote:
League Circles wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Next guy to dump is Steve Weinman and all the assistant coaches other than Fleming.

Wasn't Fleming the guy ostensibly in charge of the worst aspect of our team? I'm curious why he should be kept.

There have been leaks out there, that Fleming did not release full O based on what Boylen was doing and also not letting him fully implement.

Correct, Reinsdorf wanted an emphasis placed on analytics and Boylen (and, in turn, Fleming) followed it to a T.

TheSuzerain · Post #154 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:34 pm

Truebiscuit wrote:
othawhitemeat wrote:
League Circles wrote:Wasn't Fleming the guy ostensibly in charge of the worst aspect of our team? I'm curious why he should be kept.

There have been leaks out there, that Fleming did not release full O based on what Boylen was doing and also not letting him fully implement.

Correct, Reinsdorf wanted an emphasis placed on analytics and Boylen (and, in turn, Fleming) followed it to a T.

The other part of this is that our analytics department is seemingly run by a J-School grad.

We need to flush these people out.

Jstock12 · Post #155 » by **Jstock12** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:44 pm

Showtime23 wrote:Hmm I admit I was wrong Boylen was not fired but AK probably very reluctantly did it amid huge pressure from the owner and Pax.
Now, if he makes single big mistake I can see his role getting reduced or fired bc hes about to make Jerry very uncomfortable by spending tens of millions extra money. He better find hidden gems like mpj bol from yr1.

I think you're going easy on AK here. Only MPJ and Bol? He better find another Jokic in this upcoming draft, or just fire the guy!

FranchisePlayer · Post #156 » by **FranchisePlayer** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:01 pm

JockItch43 wrote:Going to miss his smug press conferences

Really? I won't. It was always like rubbing salt on wounds.

First we had to witness clueless play, then clueless explanations of it. Good riddance!

Dominator83 · Post #157 » by **Dominator83** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:23 pm

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:As much as I disliked Boylen, it did not feel great reading that he got fired. Hate to see anyone lose their job. Hope he lands on his feet somewhere else -- he just was not the best fit for this team.

He still has what? A $2 million severance package coming his way?

He's set for life even if he never works again

Mbrahv0528 · Post #158 » by **Mbrahv0528** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:29 pm

That guy is being facetious right?

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kodo · Post #159 » by **kodo** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:46 pm

The main takeaway for me is that this proves yet again most media sources have no clue what's going inside the Chicago FO, which is more tightly guarded than most.

Cowley, Windhorst, and Woj were all wrong about predicting how Chicago would handle coaching. They all had no legitimate insider source, so they just went with the "well chicago is cheap, if I write they'll keep Boylen I'll probably end up looking smart."

Everyone should take any Chicago FO rumors with a grain of salt.

Grodoboldo · Post #160 » by **Grodoboldo** » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:59 pm

This is the kind of day that would bring Jack Finn back.