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2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

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Post#561 » by BobbieL » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:56 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Rubio averaged 13, 8 and 5 in the bubble, shooting an impressive 43% from 3. Not sure that is sustainable over the course of an entire season, but he did average 36% from 3 for the duration of 2019-2020 which is a career high. I also don't agree with finding a star PG to replace Rubio. I think Rubio is the exact PG we need to pair with Devin Booker and the rest of our entire starting lineup.


I still think need a guard that can sub in for Booker and score points, get their own shot.
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Post#562 » by spanishninja » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:58 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:Rubio averaged 13, 8 and 5 in the bubble, shooting an impressive 43% from 3. Not sure that is sustainable over the course of an entire season, but he did average 36% from 3 for the duration of 2019-2020 which is a career high. I also don't agree with finding a star PG to replace Rubio. I think Rubio is the exact PG we need to pair with Devin Booker and the rest of our entire starting lineup.


I still think need a guard that can sub in for Booker and score points, get their own shot.


so...Cameron Payne then?
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Post#563 » by matt131 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:03 pm

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I think that's actually the right way to look at it. We performed very well, but that doesn't mean we need to stop trying to improve.

I wonder what that means for the team though. Do they mean they still want a different starting PF? A better backup PG?

Hopefully the moves keep the chemistry somewhat in tact and that if someone gets moved to the bench, hopefully they handle it well.
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Post#564 » by Frank Lee » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:04 pm

Bring back everyone who played/bubbled with importance. Keep Baynes and oob. Release the Shank, draft BPA, sign Harry Giles

I’m done

Damm shame it came down to one missed shot to square up against the fLakers.
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Post#565 » by Qwigglez » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:11 pm

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darmani wrote:
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I think that's actually the right way to look at it. We performed very well, but that doesn't mean we need to stop trying to improve.

I wonder what that means for the team though. Do they mean they still want a different starting PF? A better backup PG?

Hopefully the moves keep the chemistry somewhat in tact and that if someone gets moved to the bench, hopefully they handle it well.

I think what James Jones means is we aren't going to mortgage our future and trade draft picks, or young guys to try and improve the team now. So basically, stay the course, probably retain everyone that we all mentioned, and not make any drastic changes or trades.
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Post#566 » by matt131 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:13 pm

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matt131 wrote:
darmani wrote:
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I think that's actually the right way to look at it. We performed very well, but that doesn't mean we need to stop trying to improve.

I wonder what that means for the team though. Do they mean they still want a different starting PF? A better backup PG?

Hopefully the moves keep the chemistry somewhat in tact and that if someone gets moved to the bench, hopefully they handle it well.

I think what James Jones means is we aren't going to mortgage our future and trade draft picks, or young guys to try and improve the team now. So basically, stay the course, probably retain everyone that we all mentioned, and not make any drastic changes or trades.
Ohh I see. Yeah that's probably the right way to interpret it.
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Post#567 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:26 pm

If they bring Saric back as the primary 4/5 backup and Baynes walks they should go find a true 7 footer big to fill that 11th man type role. Certain matchups you'll need that additional size.

Maybe our old pal Alex Len, or even an old head like Mahimni. This would have to be someone cheap and willing to be cool with not playing on a lot of nights.

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Post#568 » by Qwigglez » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:43 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they bring Saric back as the primary 4/5 backup and Baynes walks they should go find a true 7 footer big to fill that 11th man type role. Certain matchups you'll need that additional size.

Maybe our old pal Alex Len, or even an old head like Mahimni. This would have to be someone cheap and willing to be cool with not playing on a lot of nights.

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I would certainly take back Alex Len if we lost Baynes. Its kind of slim pickings for backup center in free agency. Perhaps we can address that problem with the draft?
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Post#569 » by Saberestar » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:48 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they bring Saric back as the primary 4/5 backup and Baynes walks they should go find a true 7 footer big to fill that 11th man type role. Certain matchups you'll need that additional size.

Maybe our old pal Alex Len, or even an old head like Mahimni. This would have to be someone cheap and willing to be cool with not playing on a lot of nights.

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Please no, Alex Len again on the team no.

He has been terrible on the Hawks and Kings this season. And I have nightmares yet remembering him trying to catch passes around the rim.

His signing would not be good for my health. :lol:
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Post#570 » by Note30 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:52 pm

Okay kinda crazy hypo here. But if/when the Bucks lose this year in the ECF, do you think Giannis would ask for an out? Do you guys think going for Giannis if he agrees to resign, with a package of Ayton, Oubre, #10, 2 first round picks would be worth it? If Giannis were rolled out at center how would you guys fare?

Between Rubio and Giannis, Book would easily be able to light up.

Maybe get Lopez in the deal as well?

Rubio, Book, Bridges, Johnson, Giannis
Payne, Carter, Saric, Lopez

One more athletic 3&D PF and you guys would be riding into the Finals easy.

Say like Crowder?
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Post#571 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 pm

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Post#572 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 pm

Saberestar wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they bring Saric back as the primary 4/5 backup and Baynes walks they should go find a true 7 footer big to fill that 11th man type role. Certain matchups you'll need that additional size.

Maybe our old pal Alex Len, or even an old head like Mahimni. This would have to be someone cheap and willing to be cool with not playing on a lot of nights.

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Please no, Alex Len again on the team no.

He has been terrible on the Hawks and Kings this season. And I have nightmares yet remembering him trying to catch passes around the rim.

His signing would not be good for my health.
Ha yeah I understand the apprehension, he does have some terrible hands.

I just think they need a legit huge guy to bring in and body up and use some fouls with certain matchups. If there are two things Len is good at it's being big and fouling lol

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Post#573 » by Jdiddy701 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:07 pm

If I had to guess, I think two players that will be available soon are Ben Simmons, and Joel Embiid.


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Post#574 » by Weemsickew14 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:49 pm

Post-bubble off-season plan for me:

Hope lottery balls fall for us, I am very big on Killian Hayes and would trade our 10th pick plus a future first for him no question. Would also look into buying a later pick in the draft since there are a lot of wing players we could look to add for depth (Tyler Bey, Josh Green, Jalen Smith, Saddiq Bey)

-Re-sign Dario for around 3/30mil
-Re-sign Carter
-Re-sign Payne
-Sign vet backup 2
-Sign vet depth big
Baynes: 100% would bring him back on a 1 year deal, but do not want to hinder long-term cap flexibility on him.

Oubre: I prefer starting Cam Johnson and I would try to get Oubre to buy into the 6th man role. I see a big issue coming up with his impending free agency as he will want to be paid 20mil+ and that is a lot to pay your 6th man. If we can get him at close to what he is making now that is okay if not a trade might need to happen.

Rubio/Payne/Hayes
Book/Carter/Hayes/FA
Mikal/Oubre
Cam/Saric/Oubre
Ayton/Baynes/Saric/FA

+later rookie pick?

I like the idea of going big on the draft and sacrificing future picks as we will have control over Hayes' contract for a very long time. This would be a great team with a lot of continuity already.
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Post#575 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:49 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:If I had to guess, I think two players that will be available soon are Ben Simmons, and Joel Embiid.


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Yeah I could see them move one and I'd guess that would be Simmons. I've always like Simmons but not sure there's really a deal that makes sense and works cap wise.

Another big name I could see moving this off-season is Gobert. He's super max extension eligible and I'm not sure they want to pay that and I also do think the rift between him and Mitchell is real.

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Post#576 » by BobbieL » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:43 pm

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Qwigglez wrote:Rubio averaged 13, 8 and 5 in the bubble, shooting an impressive 43% from 3. Not sure that is sustainable over the course of an entire season, but he did average 36% from 3 for the duration of 2019-2020 which is a career high. I also don't agree with finding a star PG to replace Rubio. I think Rubio is the exact PG we need to pair with Devin Booker and the rest of our entire starting lineup.


I still think need a guard that can sub in for Booker and score points, get their own shot.


so...Cameron Payne then?


A guy like Sweet Lou - that kind of sixth man potential scorer. If going to dream - dream big

I think the overall strategy should be more conservative, stay the course than go big in free agency for Christian Wood, Gallinari

Saric showed a lot at the 5 plus there are "bigs" that can be signed for 6 fouls against certain teams.

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Post#577 » by jcsunsfan » Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:44 pm

You all do remember that Monty Williams and Anthony Davis are very close. Which is better, this Suns team plus AD or the Lakers? Which has a brighter future. Which state is better to live in right now? Which state has lower taxes? It’s not a hard sales pitch to make. This might be the moment.
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Post#578 » by spanishninja » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:05 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:You all do remember that Monty Williams and Anthony Davis are very close. Which is better, this Suns team plus AD or the Lakers? Which has a brighter future. Which state is better to live in right now? Which state has lower taxes? It’s not a hard sales pitch to make. This might be the moment.


this bubble performance and all the associated PR can definitely open doors for us in terms of trades and FAs
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Post#579 » by BobbieL » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:11 pm

spanishninja wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:You all do remember that Monty Williams and Anthony Davis are very close. Which is better, this Suns team plus AD or the Lakers? Which has a brighter future. Which state is better to live in right now? Which state has lower taxes? It’s not a hard sales pitch to make. This might be the moment.


this bubble performance and all the associated PR can definitely open doors for us in terms of trades and FAs


But I think this offseason is one year too early. But if they take this bubble performance and it carries into next season - when the FA class is supposed to be VERY good - I think a better chance

Tahts why I think conservative - keep cap flexibility for 2021 and hope the organic growth of the young core really is what improves this team.
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Post#580 » by spanishninja » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:19 pm

BobbieL wrote:
spanishninja wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:You all do remember that Monty Williams and Anthony Davis are very close. Which is better, this Suns team plus AD or the Lakers? Which has a brighter future. Which state is better to live in right now? Which state has lower taxes? It’s not a hard sales pitch to make. This might be the moment.


this bubble performance and all the associated PR can definitely open doors for us in terms of trades and FAs


But I think this offseason is one year too early. But if they take this bubble performance and it carries into next season - when the FA class is supposed to be VERY good - I think a better chance

Tahts why I think conservative - keep cap flexibility for 2021 and hope the organic growth of the young core really is what improves this team.


yes, it's too early now, and honestly the FA crop isn't that great this offseason anyway. But hopefully after the bubble, we get more national TV games, and if we do well on those it could go a long way for us going forward.

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