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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#981 » by Skybox » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:15 pm

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Skybox wrote:As far as ORL is concerned, he was traded for a guy that's out of the league.

I wonder if pepe thinks we gave up Ben Simmons and not Jonathon Simmons. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post#982 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:56 pm

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Doesn't help he was traded for somebody who is actually good at basketball and already allstar.


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As far as ORL is concerned, he was traded for a guy that's out of the league.

I wonder if pepe thinks we gave up Ben Simmons and not Jonathon Simmons. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Not knowing anything about trade history of Fultz, and being proud of it :clap:
Me remembering times when Skin claimed Luka Doncic is less athletic Hezonja

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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#983 » by PrimeThyme » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:47 am

He's a pull-up three with his actual shot release away from me being excited about him. Whether he actually gets that or not is unknown. The lapses on defense and the up and down motor (defensively) are all things I could live with, but I'm not going to consider him a core piece until he can regain that pull up jumper which made him so coveted in college.

The rest of it is still there, but it's not what made him such a valued player imo. I'd say there's about a 40% chance it comes back at this point.

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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#984 » by Skin » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:01 am

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Skybox wrote:As far as ORL is concerned, he was traded for a guy that's out of the league.

I wonder if pepe thinks we gave up Ben Simmons and not Jonathon Simmons. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Not knowing anything about trade history of Fultz, and being proud of it :clap:
Me remembering times when Skin claimed Luka Doncic is less athletic Hezonja

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Lol I said he's less athletic than Hezonja, not worse than Hezonja. There's a difference. I'm taking about a trait.
Your comprehension continues to fail. Hezonja had explosion and was a nasty dunker and shot blocker in his draft highlights. I had no strong predictions for Doncic. He wasn't even in our draft range to discuss much. I was too busy defending Trae Young against all your protests. Your comebacks are as weak as your reading comprehension and constant stat twisting.

Funny how you knock Hezonja now after being his #1 fan boy. Don't try to bring me into this just because you have egg on your face. That's just salty. :lol:
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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#985 » by pepe1991 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:50 am

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pepe1991 wrote:
Skin wrote:I wonder if pepe thinks we gave up Ben Simmons and not Jonathon Simmons. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Not knowing anything about trade history of Fultz, and being proud of it :clap:
Me remembering times when Skin claimed Luka Doncic is less athletic Hezonja

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Lol I said he's less athletic than Hezonja, not worse than Hezonja. There's a difference. I'm taking about a trait.
Your comprehension continues to fail. Hezonja had explosion and was a nasty dunker and shot blocker in his draft highlights. I had no strong predictions for Doncic. He wasn't even in our draft range to discuss much. I was too busy defending Trae Young against all your protests. Your comebacks are as weak as your reading comprehension and constant stat twisting.

Funny how you knock Hezonja now after being his #1 fan boy. Don't try to bring me into this just because you have egg on your face. That's just salty. :lol:


Wait, i'm salaty because you keep embarrassing yourself?
2018 was around when you kept fighting posters how Mikal Bridges has star potential and how bad SGA is.
During whole summer of 2018 you kept fighting posters how overhyped Doncic is. You even fought notion that Dragic said himself- that Luka is future star. Hezonja comparison was just cream on top of cake of talking from your a** yet never watching Doncic play single basketball game before NBA.
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They have 3 established guards already or 4 even. Not sure...They could pick Bagley. So there is a chance. If ATL really favors Young, MEM JJJ and DAL Bamba... then he could fall to ORL unless LAC don't trade up for him like they hinted.

That's like saying they won't draft Bagley because of Randolph, Skal and WCS.

Doncic is gonna bust, but SAC won't pass on him. Not worried about that one bit.


Give up, your "scouting" and talent evaluation is on par of golden fish playing memory
And once again you lie and try to twist words, you called the most talented all around offensive young star since Lebron- bust , before he played single game in nba. Before watching 1 min of him actually playing . Own your crap for once. Or tell us more about Mikal Bridges - Jimmy Butler- Paul George comparisons and how they are holding.

Well you were right once. Porzingis. I give you that :lol:

As far as mine stand on Hezonja, i literally gave up on him after one and half year.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#986 » by Skin » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:53 am

pepe1991 wrote:
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pepe1991 wrote:
Not knowing anything about trade history of Fultz, and being proud of it :clap:
Me remembering times when Skin claimed Luka Doncic is less athletic Hezonja

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Lol I said he's less athletic than Hezonja, not worse than Hezonja. There's a difference. I'm taking about a trait.
Your comprehension continues to fail. Hezonja had explosion and was a nasty dunker and shot blocker in his draft highlights. I had no strong predictions for Doncic. He wasn't even in our draft range to discuss much. I was too busy defending Trae Young against all your protests. Your comebacks are as weak as your reading comprehension and constant stat twisting.

Funny how you knock Hezonja now after being his #1 fan boy. Don't try to bring me into this just because you have egg on your face. That's just salty. :lol:


Wait, i'm salaty because you keep embarrassing yourself?
2018 was around when you kept fighting posters how Mikal Bridges has star potential and how bad SGA is.
During whole summer of 2018 you kept fighting posters how overhyped Doncic is. You even fought notion that Dragic said himself- that Luka is future star. Hezonja comparison was just cream on top of cake of talking from your a** yet never watching Doncic play single basketball game before NBA.
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Post#66 » by Skin » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:06 am

Archx wrote:
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I cant imagine Divac not drafting him.


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They have 3 established guards already or 4 even. Not sure...They could pick Bagley. So there is a chance. If ATL really favors Young, MEM JJJ and DAL Bamba... then he could fall to ORL unless LAC don't trade up for him like they hinted.

That's like saying they won't draft Bagley because of Randolph, Skal and WCS.

Doncic is gonna bust, but SAC won't pass on him. Not worried about that one bit.


Give up, your "scouting" and talent evaluation is on par of golden fish playing memory
And once again you lie and try to twist words, you called the most talented all around offensive young star since Lebron- bust , before he played single game in nba. Before watching 1 min of him actually playing . Own your crap for once. Or tell us more about Mikal Bridges - Jimmy Butler- Paul George comparisons and how they are holding.

Well you were right once. Porzingis. I give you that :lol:

As far as mine stand on Hezonja, i literally gave up on him after one and half year.

You are desperate and hilarious. :lol:

Not a single person in the world or the history of the world, much less this forum is 100% right about everything. I can care less if I end up wrong about things. I know you hate being wrong because your self esteem is tied to it. But I'm not a fortune teller. I just like to debate and share ideas.

When you're wrong, just let us laugh at you. Don't get mad. I know you can't stand it, but just own it. It's for the greater good. :lol: 99% of the people here are not gonna remember it anyways. We just enjoy a cheap laugh it in the moment. It doesn't help to make yourself look any better, by deflecting and digging my old posts. Everyone is wrong from time to time. All I know is that I'm in your head space because you remember stuff that I say better than I can. Rent free baby. Rent free. :lol: i literally know 2 things about you. You love Euros and hate tanking.

So you want me to say i was wrong about Doncic?
Ok because like you said, I didn't see him play a lot... gee, does that not make sense to you? I didn't watch him enough to know. Coming off the Hezonja bust I didn't want to hear it. We weren't in range for him anyways and I never felt the need to study him. I'll own that. Believe it or not I'll live another day. Lol. I have enough hits to not let some misses bother me. BTW, Suns fans LOVE Bridges. Easy to see why if you take your head out of your ...
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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#987 » by pepe1991 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:14 am

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Lol I said he's less athletic than Hezonja, not worse than Hezonja. There's a difference. I'm taking about a trait.
Your comprehension continues to fail. Hezonja had explosion and was a nasty dunker and shot blocker in his draft highlights. I had no strong predictions for Doncic. He wasn't even in our draft range to discuss much. I was too busy defending Trae Young against all your protests. Your comebacks are as weak as your reading comprehension and constant stat twisting.

Funny how you knock Hezonja now after being his #1 fan boy. Don't try to bring me into this just because you have egg on your face. That's just salty. :lol:


Wait, i'm salaty because you keep embarrassing yourself?
2018 was around when you kept fighting posters how Mikal Bridges has star potential and how bad SGA is.
During whole summer of 2018 you kept fighting posters how overhyped Doncic is. You even fought notion that Dragic said himself- that Luka is future star. Hezonja comparison was just cream on top of cake of talking from your a** yet never watching Doncic play single basketball game before NBA.
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Post#66 » by Skin » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:06 am

Archx wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
I cant imagine Divac not drafting him.


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They have 3 established guards already or 4 even. Not sure...They could pick Bagley. So there is a chance. If ATL really favors Young, MEM JJJ and DAL Bamba... then he could fall to ORL unless LAC don't trade up for him like they hinted.

That's like saying they won't draft Bagley because of Randolph, Skal and WCS.

Doncic is gonna bust, but SAC won't pass on him. Not worried about that one bit.


Give up, your "scouting" and talent evaluation is on par of golden fish playing memory
And once again you lie and try to twist words, you called the most talented all around offensive young star since Lebron- bust , before he played single game in nba. Before watching 1 min of him actually playing . Own your crap for once. Or tell us more about Mikal Bridges - Jimmy Butler- Paul George comparisons and how they are holding.

Well you were right once. Porzingis. I give you that :lol:

As far as mine stand on Hezonja, i literally gave up on him after one and half year.

You are desperate and hilarious. :lol:

Not a single person in the world or the history of the world, much less this forum is 100% right about everything. I can care less if I end up wrong about things. I know you hate being wrong because your self esteem is tied to it. But I'm not a fortune teller. I just like to debate and share ideas.

When you're wrong, just let us laugh at you. Don't get mad. I know you can't stand it, but just own it. It's for the greater good. :lol: 99% of the people here are not gonna remember it anyways. We just enjoy a cheap laugh it in the moment. It doesn't help to make yourself look any better, by deflecting and digging my old posts. Everyone is wrong from time to time. All I know is that I'm in your head space because you remember stuff that I say better than I can. Rent free baby. Rent free. :lol: i literally know 2 things about you. You love Euros and hate tanking.

So you want me to say i was wrong about Doncic?
Ok because like you said, I didn't see him play a lot... gee, does that not make sense to you? I didn't watch him enough to know. Coming off the Hezonja bust I didn't want to hear it. We weren't in range for him anyways and I never felt the need to study him. I'll own that. Believe it or not I'll live another day. Lol. I have enough hits to not let some misses bother me. BTW, Suns fans LOVE Bridges. Easy to see why if you take your head out of your ...



I can't get mad on poster who does not know basketball rules yet talks about basketball, who calls player bust while never watching him play. That poster belongs in troll category and that's how i see your posts. Combination of poor basketball understanding, complete lack of knowledge and ignorance, yet being full of yourself.

I mean, you compared f*** Kelly Oubre to Tracy Mcgrady. By the time Tracy turned 24, he was 3 times allstar and had season where he averaged 32 ppg behind him. in mean time... Suns best games happend after Oubre was hurt , because, you know, basketball is team sport, and one does not pass ball at all. But again, i won't bother you with heavy infos, you wouldn't get it anyway. :*

Suns fans are thrilled with Mikal, so thrilled that they have bunch of angry WHY WE PASSED ON SGA and MP jr thraeds still going :rol:
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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#988 » by Skin » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:34 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Skin wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Wait, i'm salaty because you keep embarrassing yourself?
2018 was around when you kept fighting posters how Mikal Bridges has star potential and how bad SGA is.
During whole summer of 2018 you kept fighting posters how overhyped Doncic is. You even fought notion that Dragic said himself- that Luka is future star. Hezonja comparison was just cream on top of cake of talking from your a** yet never watching Doncic play single basketball game before NBA.


Give up, your "scouting" and talent evaluation is on par of golden fish playing memory
And once again you lie and try to twist words, you called the most talented all around offensive young star since Lebron- bust , before he played single game in nba. Before watching 1 min of him actually playing . Own your crap for once. Or tell us more about Mikal Bridges - Jimmy Butler- Paul George comparisons and how they are holding.

Well you were right once. Porzingis. I give you that :lol:

As far as mine stand on Hezonja, i literally gave up on him after one and half year.

You are desperate and hilarious. :lol:

Not a single person in the world or the history of the world, much less this forum is 100% right about everything. I can care less if I end up wrong about things. I know you hate being wrong because your self esteem is tied to it. But I'm not a fortune teller. I just like to debate and share ideas.

When you're wrong, just let us laugh at you. Don't get mad. I know you can't stand it, but just own it. It's for the greater good. :lol: 99% of the people here are not gonna remember it anyways. We just enjoy a cheap laugh it in the moment. It doesn't help to make yourself look any better, by deflecting and digging my old posts. Everyone is wrong from time to time. All I know is that I'm in your head space because you remember stuff that I say better than I can. Rent free baby. Rent free. :lol: i literally know 2 things about you. You love Euros and hate tanking.

So you want me to say i was wrong about Doncic?
Ok because like you said, I didn't see him play a lot... gee, does that not make sense to you? I didn't watch him enough to know. Coming off the Hezonja bust I didn't want to hear it. We weren't in range for him anyways and I never felt the need to study him. I'll own that. Believe it or not I'll live another day. Lol. I have enough hits to not let some misses bother me. BTW, Suns fans LOVE Bridges. Easy to see why if you take your head out of your ...



I can't get mad on poster who does not know basketball rules yet talks about basketball, who calls player bust while never watching him play. That poster belongs in troll category and that's how i see your posts. Combination of poor basketball understanding, complete lack of knowledge and ignorance, yet being full of yourself.

I mean, you compared f*** Kelly Oubre to Tracy Mcgrady. By the time Tracy turned 24, he was 3 times allstar and had season where he averaged 32 ppg behind him. in mean time... Suns best games happend after Oubre was hurt , because, you know, basketball is team sport, and one does not pass ball at all. But again, i won't bother you with heavy infos, you wouldn't get it anyway. :*

Suns fans are thrilled with Mikal, so thrilled that they have bunch of angry WHY WE PASSED ON SGA and MP jr thraeds still going :rol:
Nothing says great lottery pick than 9 ppg player who can't rebound nor pass.

People choose to get trolled. But it's worse with people who have reading comprehension problems. They frustrate their own selves. #RentFree.

Yeah, Suns fans seem reeeeeeeal upset. Lmao with your twists! Are you a Tasmanian devil?

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Re: Markelle Fultz Updates Thread 

Post#989 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:30 pm

Back on topic

Markelle has shown to be an NBA starter level player. He is good at running the offense and creating shots for himself and others. His shooting is still a concern but the biggest is his lack of aggression. He has bursts where he takes control of the game and attacks but too often he seems pleased with his 12 points on 10 shots
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Post#990 » by Skybox » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:48 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:Back on topic

Markelle has shown to be an NBA starter level player. He is good at running the offense and creating shots for himself and others. His shooting is still a concern but the biggest is his lack of aggression. He has bursts where he takes control of the game and attacks but too often he seems pleased with his 12 points on 10 shots


Agree completely...I really felt like the bubble season presented a tremendous opportunity for him to just run wild and put the league on notice. Not too late, Bucks will annihilate us, but my dream is for Fultz to average 22/10/6 and take some PHO type momentum into the offseason...I've felt for a while now that if he could just string together 3 or 4 20 point games, his confidence (and aggression) would soar... honestly, that might mean a LOT more to ORL long-term than even stealing a couple of games. Would be very unlike Cliff but why coach conservatively or predictably against such a far superior opponent...Run the Wildcat and shock the world, at least for a couple of games.
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Post#991 » by Def Swami » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:03 pm

I think Fultz's floor is probably higher than I anticipated it being at the start of the season. If his 3 point shooting never comes along, but he learns how to be a good NBA PG, run an offense, finish at the rim efficiently, and play good defense, then he can maybe have a Ricky Rubio like career. Which is pretty good. It does limit how good your offense can be if your lead guard can't shoot 3's, and it makes it hard to play with any other non-shooters on the court. But, it's possible for him to be a plus NBA player.
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Def Swami wrote:I think Fultz's floor is probably higher than I anticipated it being at the start of the season. If his 3 point shooting never comes along, but he learns how to be a good NBA PG, run an offense, finish at the rim efficiently, and play good defense, then he can maybe have a Ricky Rubio like career. Which is pretty good. It does limit how good your offense can be if your lead guard can't shoot 3's, and it makes it hard to play with any other non-shooters on the court. But, it's possible for him to be a plus NBA player.

Yeah. Fultz’ % on midrange jumper has really surprised me. I’ve always thought he didnt lose the form on creating pullup midrange shots, but those percentage is what has impressed me and I had little expectations from him, tbh, though.

Hoping his 3point form can be back or at least be at a league average percentage
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The Pepe vs Skin Deathmatch was a much needed distraction from my day. Thanks guys teehee.
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Post#994 » by Def Swami » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:07 pm

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Def Swami wrote:I think Fultz's floor is probably higher than I anticipated it being at the start of the season. If his 3 point shooting never comes along, but he learns how to be a good NBA PG, run an offense, finish at the rim efficiently, and play good defense, then he can maybe have a Ricky Rubio like career. Which is pretty good. It does limit how good your offense can be if your lead guard can't shoot 3's, and it makes it hard to play with any other non-shooters on the court. But, it's possible for him to be a plus NBA player.

Yeah. Fultz’ % on midrange jumper has really surprised me. I’ve always thought he didnt lose the form on creating pullup midrange shots, but those percentage is what has impressed me and I had little expectations from him, tbh, though.

Hoping his 3point form can be back or at least be at a league average percentage

I can't wrap my brain around why his 3 point shot looks so different compared to his mid-range jumper. His mid-range jumper looks similar to his old 3 point jumper from college. Either the TOS is still acting up (Fultz has said he's 100% healthy, so I'll take his word for it), or it's all mental at this point. I hope Fultz is in a gym with a shooting coach all off-season working on his 3 point shot. Adding that 3 point shot is what will separate him from being good and great, and ultimately determine the ceiling of our team as its currently constructed.
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Post#995 » by Audi » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:38 pm

Def Swami wrote:I can't wrap my brain around why his 3 point shot looks so different compared to his mid-range jumper. His mid-range jumper looks similar to his old 3 point jumper from college. Either the TOS is still acting up (Fultz has said he's 100% healthy, so I'll take his word for it), or it's all mental at this point.


I need to carefully watch his long distance jumpers...do they look like his college 3s did?
It’s hard to believe that the extra distance between the line for college vs NBA could force him to change his shot, but I suppose it’s possible?
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Post#996 » by KillMonger » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:28 pm

fendilim wrote:
Def Swami wrote:I think Fultz's floor is probably higher than I anticipated it being at the start of the season. If his 3 point shooting never comes along, but he learns how to be a good NBA PG, run an offense, finish at the rim efficiently, and play good defense, then he can maybe have a Ricky Rubio like career. Which is pretty good. It does limit how good your offense can be if your lead guard can't shoot 3's, and it makes it hard to play with any other non-shooters on the court. But, it's possible for him to be a plus NBA player.

Yeah. Fultz’ % on midrange jumper has really surprised me. I’ve always thought he didnt lose the form on creating pullup midrange shots, but those percentage is what has impressed me and I had little expectations from him, tbh, though.

Hoping his 3point form can be back or at least be at a league average percentage

what gives me hope is the marked improvement the shot has made from his time in Philly to now...i mean he went 58% from the free throw in philly to 73% now that's a vast improvement....he's put a lot of work in to get it to this point.....so i don't see why he wouldn't be able to keep improving
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Post#997 » by Skybox » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:35 pm

KillMonger wrote:
fendilim wrote:
Def Swami wrote:I think Fultz's floor is probably higher than I anticipated it being at the start of the season. If his 3 point shooting never comes along, but he learns how to be a good NBA PG, run an offense, finish at the rim efficiently, and play good defense, then he can maybe have a Ricky Rubio like career. Which is pretty good. It does limit how good your offense can be if your lead guard can't shoot 3's, and it makes it hard to play with any other non-shooters on the court. But, it's possible for him to be a plus NBA player.

Yeah. Fultz’ % on midrange jumper has really surprised me. I’ve always thought he didnt lose the form on creating pullup midrange shots, but those percentage is what has impressed me and I had little expectations from him, tbh, though.

Hoping his 3point form can be back or at least be at a league average percentage

what gives me hope is the marked improvement the shot has made from his time in Philly to now...i mean he went 58% from the free throw in philly to 73% now that's a vast improvement....he's put a lot of work in to get it to this point.....so i don't see why he wouldn't be able to keep improving


AND...he's been great before, so it's not like some hopeful dream about a "project" who we hope to teach how to shoot.
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Post#998 » by pepe1991 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:24 pm

Ducklett wrote:The Pepe vs Skin Deathmatch was a much needed distraction from my day. Thanks guys teehee.


:lol:

Skin helped me get through boring day :lol:
We went at it too many times to take it too serious so i know he doesn't mind :)
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Post#999 » by Skin » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:14 pm

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Ducklett wrote:The Pepe vs Skin Deathmatch was a much needed distraction from my day. Thanks guys teehee.


:lol:

Skin helped me get through boring day :lol:
We went at it too many times to take it too serious so i know he doesn't mind :)

I definitely don't mind out trolling a troll.

Who was that all-star player that you were trying to make us think we gave up for Fultz anyways? :lol:
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Post#1000 » by J-Mezzy » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:16 pm

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Ducklett wrote:The Pepe vs Skin Deathmatch was a much needed distraction from my day. Thanks guys teehee.


:lol:

Skin helped me get through boring day :lol:
We went at it too many times to take it too serious so i know he doesn't mind :)

I definitely don't mind out trolling a troll.

Who was that all-star player that you were trying to make us think we gave up for Fultz anyways? :lol:


If you wanna troll pepe, all you have to say is

8-2

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