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Post#61 » by bulls_troy » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:42 am

rtblues wrote:I found the blowhard Stephen A Smith's comments where he denigrated the Chicago Bulls franchise & advised all coaches to not go there to be irresponsible, biased & flies in the face of all of the major changes they have made & are making. I doubt if he actually has seen 1 Bulls game in the last 5 years. Stephen A needs to STFU, he isn't in the least bit qualified to say squat about the situation in Chicago and is using his platform as a bully pulpit to denigrate an NBA franchise.


If we were still being run by GarPax, I'm sure we'd all agree with him though
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Post#62 » by Andi Obst » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:52 am

pduh01 wrote:Funny is I give my list of consideration last night on twitter for replacing Boylen which obvious was before he got fired and the leaks…

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KA will be my first choice…


I don't really think Messina is an option. He went to Milan last year and is basically the coach and the GM there. Don't see him giving that up after a year.
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Post#63 » by dumbell78 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:10 am

I can't comment on the list of contenders, just don't know enough about them. What I do know is I don't want Mark Jackson, Fizdale, or Kidd...please stay away from those guys.
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Post#64 » by TheFinishSniper » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:27 am

I just want proper NBA coach. He can come from Chile's 2nd league for all I care
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Post#65 » by rtblues » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:46 am

AirLaVine8 wrote:
rtblues wrote:I found the blowhard Stephen A Smith's comments where he denigrated the Chicago Bulls franchise & advised all coaches to not go there to be irresponsible, biased & flies in the face of all of the major changes they have made & are making. I doubt if he actually has seen 1 Bulls game in the last 5 years. Stephen A needs to STFU, he isn't in the least bit qualified to say squat about the situation in Chicago and is using his platform as a bully pulpit to denigrate an NBA franchise.


If we were still being run by GarPax, I'm sure we'd all agree with him though

Well, I did say, "in the face of all of the major changes they have made & are making"
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Post#66 » by Southpaw » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:59 am

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Southpaw wrote:I also don't think an established HC would go here because we don't really have a strong roster that would attract an established coach.


Thibs just went to the Knicks...

I don't think "established" coaches wouldn't want to come to the Bulls, but I'm not sure if there is one out there right now that I would want. Atkinson is probably the only one (if he counts as established already).

All of Thibs teams has always been composed of young players, but yeah, that's a good point.

I also wouldn't really want an established coach if the choices are among the commonly mentioned coaches. I'd rather take a shot at a young up and comer. In the last few years, we've had what? 3 rookie coaches to win the chip?
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Post#67 » by jkudia » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:10 pm

http://sportsmockery.com/2020/08/top-insider-says-nba-coaches-see-chicago-bulls-job-as-highly-attractive/

This article says Calipari and Chris beard are candidates. Did I miss that?
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Post#68 » by Fastbrk4brkfast » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:31 pm

I'm very optimistic about our coaching prospects. I'd be okay with any of the names thrown out so far as they'd all represent an improvement. Of the assistants I think the best choices are Unseld, Udoka and Griff in that order. Of the established coaches I'd go for Mike Brown. Promoting Chris Fleming might also be worth considering depending on player feedback.

From what I've been able to gather about their pedigrees, philosophies and personalities I'd make Wes Unseld Jr. the frontrunner. He favors a defensive style of blitzing the PnR which means our guys wouldn't be starting over from scratch on the Xs and Os. Also, that defensive style was the one thing I liked about Boylen while he was here. Footspeed is a big plus our roster has going so it makes sense to opt for a playstyle that leaverages it.

He's probably the best communicator of the whole candidate group. He won't have trouble earning the respect of players or media. He's got the sideline intensity Hoiberg lacked but he can also dial it back so players don't tune him out. So far as player development I like that he was chosen to coach a Rising Stars game. And of course he's familiar with AK and seems like an ideal vessel for organizing the locker room in line with AK's approach.

A lot of the above also applies to Udoka but he's had less media exposure than Unseld so he's a bit tougher to measure. Either way I think we get a guy with a defensive mindset who can translate AKs principles into on-court performance sooner rather than later.
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Post#69 » by D_GoLow » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:34 pm

AirLaVine8 wrote:
rtblues wrote:I found the blowhard Stephen A Smith's comments where he denigrated the Chicago Bulls franchise & advised all coaches to not go there to be irresponsible, biased & flies in the face of all of the major changes they have made & are making. I doubt if he actually has seen 1 Bulls game in the last 5 years. Stephen A needs to STFU, he isn't in the least bit qualified to say squat about the situation in Chicago and is using his platform as a bully pulpit to denigrate an NBA franchise.


If we were still being run by GarPax, I'm sure we'd all agree with him though

Stephen A is also a Knicks fan so he REALLY shouldn't talk lol
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Post#70 » by nitetrain8603 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:36 pm

rtblues wrote:I found the blowhard Stephen A Smith's comments where he denigrated the Chicago Bulls franchise & advised all coaches to not go there to be irresponsible, biased & flies in the face of all of the major changes they have made & are making. I doubt if he actually has seen 1 Bulls game in the last 5 years. Stephen A needs to STFU, he isn't in the least bit qualified to say squat about the situation in Chicago and is using his platform as a bully pulpit to denigrate an NBA franchise.


Here's the thing, what he said, is what most players around the league feel about the Bulls franchise. Hell, it's what we felt beforehand. Now, we're closer to the Bulls as we're here - at the same time, there has to be skepticism due to the history of this franchise, especially the last 7 years where they undermined coaches, bugged their offices, etc.

That doesn't just change with a new FO (Pax is still here btw; I wonder about Doug). Only way that changes is with time. You saw David Fizdale didn't want anything to do with the Bulls in that same segment.

Out of the other experienced coaches listed, Woodson is joining Thibs' staff IIRC. Joeger seems to create bad relationships with everyone, though he's a hell of a coach.

If we're looking to up value of our players, I would go after D'Antoni if he's available. I know, he doesn't play defense, etc. But, this is an offensive league. He would be playing a hell of a style in the Eastern Conference and I think he would be great to get Lauri and Co. on track.

Just trying to think out of the box. I don't thing this FO would do it. I see them going after someone with no experience.
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Post#71 » by nitetrain8603 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:39 pm

jkudia wrote:http://sportsmockery.com/2020/08/top-insider-says-nba-coaches-see-chicago-bulls-job-as-highly-attractive/

This article says Calipari and Chris beard are candidates. Did I miss that?


SportsMockery has no sources. I can tell you that right now. With that stated, Calipari would be interested in going back to the NBA and it would be a good player's move, but the other question - is he a good enough coach?
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Post#72 » by Jcool0 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:28 pm

Guess they aren't on the Bulls list

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Post#73 » by Jcool0 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:40 pm

jkudia wrote:http://sportsmockery.com/2020/08/top-insider-says-nba-coaches-see-chicago-bulls-job-as-highly-attractive/

This article says Calipari and Chris beard are candidates. Did I miss that?


Sports Mockery? Never heard of that. Calipari wouldn't jump to a bad team like Chicago & i doubt the Bulls would pay him what he would be asking for. If Zion were healthy NO would be more a team he would go for.
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Post#74 » by rtblues » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:55 pm

nitetrain8603 wrote:
rtblues wrote:I found the blowhard Stephen A Smith's comments where he denigrated the Chicago Bulls franchise & advised all coaches to not go there to be irresponsible, biased & flies in the face of all of the major changes they have made & are making. I doubt if he actually has seen 1 Bulls game in the last 5 years. Stephen A needs to STFU, he isn't in the least bit qualified to say squat about the situation in Chicago and is using his platform as a bully pulpit to denigrate an NBA franchise.


Here's the thing, what he said, is what most players around the league feel about the Bulls franchise. Hell, it's what we felt beforehand. Now, we're closer to the Bulls as we're here - at the same time, there has to be skepticism due to the history of this franchise, especially the last 7 years where they undermined coaches, bugged their offices, etc.

That doesn't just change with a new FO (Pax is still here btw; I wonder about Doug). Only way that changes is with time. You saw David Fizdale didn't want anything to do with the Bulls in that same segment.

Out of the other experienced coaches listed, Woodson is joining Thibs' staff IIRC. Joeger seems to create bad relationships with everyone, though he's a hell of a coach.

If we're looking to up value of our players, I would go after D'Antoni if he's available. I know, he doesn't play defense, etc. But, this is an offensive league. He would be playing a hell of a style in the Eastern Conference and I think he would be great to get Lauri and Co. on track.

Just trying to think out of the box. I don't thing this FO would do it. I see them going after someone with no experience.

Fizdale and the ESPN crew flatter themselves too much. Fiz was never in the Bulls discussion. and won't be. His record is bsaically Boylen's but with a bigger sample size.
To judge AK and his hires by the former management isn't really fair. Lastly, I don't believe Pax is running ish, Ditto Doug, who never has done one concrete thing that anyone can point to. If Pax had any sway left, Boylen would still be there. Maybe see what AK does before lumping him in with the old guard, I don't believe he's anything close to that, he's actually smart and competent. See the difference? ;-)
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Post#75 » by Payt10 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:11 pm

Adrian Griffin was my guy until a minute ago. I don't know if the allegations against him or true, but the timing of them makes it difficult for me to see him getting a HC job this year.

I don't really care who they get as long as he's not an idiot like the last guy, and he knows how to communicate with his players. Make this franchise respectable again.
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Post#76 » by League Circles » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:13 pm

I'd like us to interview these guys as well:

Jason Kidd
Mike Brown
David Blatt
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Post#77 » by johnnyvann840 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:13 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
OnlyTheOneAndOnly wrote:well this is the current pool of available coaches with previous experience:

jason kidd
mark jackson
tyronn lue
david fizdale
mike woodson
mike brown

long shots include mike d'antoni and jeff van gundy

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For whatever reason, you removed the most talked about guys with previous experience
David Joerger
Kenny Atkinson

Not that I'm super excited about these guys.

There's Stan Van Gundy too.

Just don't let him make the draft picks.


I would take SVG over any of those assistants. Proven track record. All the guy has done is win. I agree, just let him coach. No drafting and no front office. But he would easily be the best coach out there without a job that has proven experience and would be my choice.
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Post#78 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:27 pm

Kidd or Lue are options 1A and 1B for me.

Reputable name with a good track record. Would be good with players and can attract FA potentially.
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Post#79 » by Jcool0 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:46 pm

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Kidd or Lue are options 1A and 1B for me.

Reputable name with a good track record. Would be good with players and can attract FA potentially.


1. Coaches do not attract FAs

2. Neither has a good track record.
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Post#80 » by Andi Obst » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:56 pm

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Kidd or Lue are options 1A and 1B for me.

Reputable name with a good track record. Would be good with players and can attract FA potentially.


In what universe does Kidd have a good track record? He wasn't good in Brooklyn and absolutely terrible in Milwaukee. They got better the second Kidd left the door.

Lue obviously won a chip, but that makes his reputation way better than it should be IMO. His time in Cleveland was pretty rough for the most part.

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