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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1721 » by Ccwatercraft » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:37 am

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scottyg wrote:Part of me wants to build through the draft but then the other side wants to trade for Chris Paul and Demar Derozan and keep our future pics at the same time, and let them show The young guys how to play and aid them in development and they all resign for cheap, and help bring Chicago back to a free agent destination ! Hmmm ??

Paul/ White / Dunn
Lavine/ white, Dunn
Derozan/ Hutch/#7
Markannen/ #7
Carter/ Gafford

I like it


I dunno about derozan but I really really want CP3 here as a leader for the youngins. I think Coby can come into form while CP3 declines


He would.come with a price, I think OKC likes CP3, there is zero doubt he makes them better, and that he would do the same for us.
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Post#1722 » by Ccwatercraft » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:48 am

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wonderboy2 wrote:We need to swindle a team into taking Sato. Maybe trade him to New Orleans for Frank Jackson. But Frank Jackson actually is a talented useful player. We would probably have to throw in picks.

I have no problem trading Sato, but we need someone to play back-up SF, at least Sato can do that. Maybe that's through the draft, but I really like Sato in Wash, he was trash here, but I think that may have been more Boylen and a lack of talent on the floor than just Sato.


I know can play the 3.

Did he really play that much SF? We played some messed up lineups at 1-3.
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Post#1723 » by drosereturn » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:47 am

sco wrote:If we can get Toppin in the draft or other PF, I read NO may be less enamored with Ball. What about:
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this is a fair trade I would go for esp if the Bulls can draft Ball. Maybe trade 2021 unprotected for Ball and grab toppin at 7.
Pelicans are eager to trade Ball and Bulls vice versa for a fair price.

Something like Ball/White/Ball/Toppin/Carter is a very promising core. Carter just has to be Gobert. Dont even expect to shoot.
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Post#1725 » by sco » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:57 pm

StunnerKO wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-free-agency-top-70-players-who-could-be-available-in-upcoming-offseason/amp/

Looking at the list, one thing becomes pretty obvious to me. There are a sh*t-ton of decent centers available this off-season such that, despite my love for the kid, the Bulls should be heavily shopping WCJ. Honestly, I have no idea what his value is based on last season's slump, but if could fetch us a mid-lotto 2021 1st, I'd be all over that. I wouldn't mind seeing Whiteside, Noel, or even Boucher in a Bulls uni.

Beyond that, there are fewer, but some decent PF's on that list too. If somehow packaging Lauri and WCJ could bring us back a higher-potential guy, I'd be all over that too. Regardless of whether we keep Lauri, I'd be taking a swing on Giles this offseason (he looked good this year) or even Saric, who is looking better.
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Post#1726 » by othawhitemeat » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:17 pm

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sco wrote:If we can get Toppin in the draft or other PF, I read NO may be less enamored with Ball. What about:
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this is a fair trade I would go for esp if the Bulls can draft Ball. Maybe trade 2021 unprotected for Ball and grab toppin at 7.
Pelicans are eager to trade Ball and Bulls vice versa for a fair price.

Something like Ball/White/Ball/Toppin/Carter is a very promising core. Carter just has to be Gobert. Dont even expect to shoot.


Want nothing to do w Lonzo Ball. He is sawwwwwft. Peeps think Lauri is soft in which is nothing compared to Lonzo.
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Post#1727 » by Andi Obst » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:22 pm

sco wrote:Looking at the list, one thing becomes pretty obvious to me. There are a sh*t-ton of decent centers available this off-season such that, despite my love for the kid, the Bulls should be heavily shopping WCJ. Honestly, I have no idea what his value is based on last season's slump, but if could fetch us a mid-lotto 2021 1st, I'd be all over that. I wouldn't mind seeing Whiteside, Noel, or even Boucher in a Bulls uni.


Why wouldn't the Bulls just see if WCJ can stay healthy and improve under a new coach next year? Whiteside is terrible, he just tried a little harder in a contract year, but will go back to being full-time lazy next season. We've seen this before with him. Noel isn't better than WCJ either and Boucher is still super raw.

All the other guys on the list are either old and/or will want too much money for what they bring. WCJ is by far our best option IMO.
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Post#1728 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:42 pm

Don't get the fascination with Lonzo Ball.
Lead guards that can't shoot and can't generate loads of FT are non-factors since zone defense became a thing.
That's also the main knock on his brother. It's great that he can pass the **** out of that rock! But if he doesn't learn to shoot and can't finish at the rim, he won't be much.
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Post#1729 » by jayu70 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:54 pm

Bulldog23 wrote:I like Atlanta as a trade partner but if the Bulls trade Lavine To Atlanta then I would want Heurter, Hunter, Deadmon and pick. I would throw in either Thad or Sato.

That's a horrendous overpay from the Hawks. Easy no. Our already bad defense would be worse with a Young/Lavine backcourt while also trading Hunter's 3nD potential.
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Post#1730 » by Chi town » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:23 pm

sco wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-free-agency-top-70-players-who-could-be-available-in-upcoming-offseason/amp/

Looking at the list, one thing becomes pretty obvious to me. There are a sh*t-ton of decent centers available this off-season such that, despite my love for the kid, the Bulls should be heavily shopping WCJ. Honestly, I have no idea what his value is based on last season's slump, but if could fetch us a mid-lotto 2021 1st, I'd be all over that. I wouldn't mind seeing Whiteside, Noel, or even Boucher in a Bulls uni.

Beyond that, there are fewer, but some decent PF's on that list too. If somehow packaging Lauri and WCJ could bring us back a higher-potential guy, I'd be all over that too. Regardless of whether we keep Lauri, I'd be taking a swing on Giles this offseason (he looked good this year) or even Saric, who is looking better.


Only 3-4 teams that WCJ makes sense for.

WCJ for Culver makes sense. Towns can then play PF full time.

Don’t know how I feel about Culver’s 46% FTs and 29% 3ball. He can create and D up though.

Will be really interesting to see what AK does w Dunn, Sato, Val, Hutch and our pick. I think he let’s Dunn and Val walk and picks a wing in the draft.
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Post#1731 » by wonderboy2 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:48 pm

Chi town wrote:
sco wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2020-nba-free-agency-top-70-players-who-could-be-available-in-upcoming-offseason/amp/

Looking at the list, one thing becomes pretty obvious to me. There are a sh*t-ton of decent centers available this off-season such that, despite my love for the kid, the Bulls should be heavily shopping WCJ. Honestly, I have no idea what his value is based on last season's slump, but if could fetch us a mid-lotto 2021 1st, I'd be all over that. I wouldn't mind seeing Whiteside, Noel, or even Boucher in a Bulls uni.

Beyond that, there are fewer, but some decent PF's on that list too. If somehow packaging Lauri and WCJ could bring us back a higher-potential guy, I'd be all over that too. Regardless of whether we keep Lauri, I'd be taking a swing on Giles this offseason (he looked good this year) or even Saric, who is looking better.


Only 3-4 teams that WCJ makes sense for.

WCJ for Culver makes sense. Towns can then play PF full time.

Don’t know how I feel about Culver’s 46% FTs and 29% 3ball. He can create and D up though.

Will be really interesting to see what AK does w Dunn, Sato, Val, Hutch and our pick. I think he let’s Dunn and Val walk and picks a wing in the draft.

Man that would be a terrible trade. Culver for Wendell. I mean I’m not sure if Culver is better than a healthy Hutch. The bulls should let go of Sato instead of Dunn. I’ve been asking around and lots of teams fans would like to take Dunn. Literally nobody wants Sato. This board over values Sato big time. I understand though because of the heavy Euro influence on this board.
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Post#1732 » by Chi town » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:51 pm

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Chi town wrote:
sco wrote:Looking at the list, one thing becomes pretty obvious to me. There are a sh*t-ton of decent centers available this off-season such that, despite my love for the kid, the Bulls should be heavily shopping WCJ. Honestly, I have no idea what his value is based on last season's slump, but if could fetch us a mid-lotto 2021 1st, I'd be all over that. I wouldn't mind seeing Whiteside, Noel, or even Boucher in a Bulls uni.

Beyond that, there are fewer, but some decent PF's on that list too. If somehow packaging Lauri and WCJ could bring us back a higher-potential guy, I'd be all over that too. Regardless of whether we keep Lauri, I'd be taking a swing on Giles this offseason (he looked good this year) or even Saric, who is looking better.


Only 3-4 teams that WCJ makes sense for.

WCJ for Culver makes sense. Towns can then play PF full time.

Don’t know how I feel about Culver’s 46% FTs and 29% 3ball. He can create and D up though.

Will be really interesting to see what AK does w Dunn, Sato, Val, Hutch and our pick. I think he let’s Dunn and Val walk and picks a wing in the draft.

Man that would be a terrible trade. Culver for Wendell. I mean I’m not sure if Culver is better than a healthy Hutch. The bulls should let go of Sato instead of Dunn. I’ve been asking around and lots of teams fans would like to take Dunn. Literally nobody wants Sato. This board over values Sato big time. I understand though because of the heavy Euro influence on this board.


I despise Sato. Just know it would be tough to trade him.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1733 » by StunnerKO » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:03 pm

Culver stinks
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Post#1734 » by MrSparkle » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:14 pm

StunnerKO wrote:Culver stinks


He's pretty talented; had a good January. If he improves his FT and 3P shooting, he's a very good wing. That's the gamble. He can handle and defend at a higher level than a guy like Hutchinson.

Cam Johnson is making a case for shooting skill and length outweighing athleticism and age. About 1 year early to judge that trade though. But I wouldn't have been happy drafting Culver at #6.
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Post#1735 » by wonderboy2 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:19 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:Culver stinks


He's pretty talented; had a good January. If he improves his FT and 3P shooting, he's a very good wing. That's the gamble. He can handle and defend at a higher level than a guy like Hutchinson.

Cam Johnson is making a case for shooting skill and length outweighing athleticism and age.

About 1 year early to judge that trade though.

I seen Culver play a lot. Culver imo plays alittle tentative. You can sometimes forget he’s out there. I say Hutch is the better defender rebounder at this stage. I agree with you that I like Culver’s handle more. I like the way Hutch was attacking the rim aggressively right before the injury. Seems like he was starting to put things together. I definitely wouldn’t trade Carter for Culver though. That would be a horrific trade for the bulls.
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Post#1736 » by MrSparkle » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:22 pm

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MrSparkle wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:Culver stinks


He's pretty talented; had a good January. If he improves his FT and 3P shooting, he's a very good wing. That's the gamble. He can handle and defend at a higher level than a guy like Hutchinson.

Cam Johnson is making a case for shooting skill and length outweighing athleticism and age.

About 1 year early to judge that trade though.

I seen Culver play a lot. Culver imo plays alittle tentative. You can sometimes forget he’s out there. I say Hutch is the better defender rebounder at this stage. I agree with you that I like Culver’s handle more. I like the way Hutch was attacking the rim aggressively right before the injury. Seems like he was starting to put things together. I definitely wouldn’t trade Carter for Culver though. That would be a horrific trade for the bulls.


YEah. All injuries and disappointment considered, WCJ has room to become a bigger-impact player (metaphorically speaking).

Really, with all these types of guys, it comes down to humbling down, and their willingness to work into peak shape and work on their jump shot. It's a physical and mental sacrifice, but the pay-off is a $80m-100m contract... so....
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Post#1737 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:37 pm

Would Portland do a Sato + Young for Ariza + Hood (assuming both are dead money by now, please correct me if I'm wrong) + filler + their 2020 1st rounder?

They upgrade their guard/wing rotation (which sure could use some defense and 3 point shooting), their PF rotation (also much needed) and shed dead money for a mid-late pick

We get a pick for guys not really in our future.
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Post#1738 » by Chi town » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:16 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:Culver stinks


He's pretty talented; had a good January. If he improves his FT and 3P shooting, he's a very good wing. That's the gamble. He can handle and defend at a higher level than a guy like Hutchinson.

Cam Johnson is making a case for shooting skill and length outweighing athleticism and age. About 1 year early to judge that trade though. But I wouldn't have been happy drafting Culver at #6.


Coby has much higher ceiling due to his ability to create off the dribble 3s. Coby was the right pick at 7. Def over Culver too.

I agree that Culver could be quite the player if he improves his shooting. He’s got a monster work ethic that could means he’s doomed because he has t shown much yet or it could be he will consistently improve.
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Post#1739 » by MrSparkle » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:23 am

Chi town wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:Culver stinks


He's pretty talented; had a good January. If he improves his FT and 3P shooting, he's a very good wing. That's the gamble. He can handle and defend at a higher level than a guy like Hutchinson.

Cam Johnson is making a case for shooting skill and length outweighing athleticism and age. About 1 year early to judge that trade though. But I wouldn't have been happy drafting Culver at #6.


Coby has much higher ceiling due to his ability to create off the dribble 3s. Coby was the right pick at 7. Def over Culver too.

I agree that Culver could be quite the player if he improves his shooting. He’s got a monster work ethic that could means he’s doomed because he has t shown much yet or it could be he will consistently improve.


Yeah I'm happy with Coby at #7. Didn't mean I'd take Cam over him, just strictly comparing him to Culver since that was the Suns-Wolves trade (plus Saric).
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Post#1740 » by wonderboy2 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:25 am

Grodoboldo wrote:Would Portland do a Sato + Young for Ariza + Hood (assuming both are dead money by now, please correct me if I'm wrong) + filler + their 2020 1st rounder?

They upgrade their guard/wing rotation (which sure could use some defense and 3 point shooting), their PF rotation (also much needed) and shed dead money for a mid-late pick

We get a pick for guys not really in our future.

Bulls would do that trade in heartbeat. Portland wouldn’t though. Sato has no value.At this point you would probably have to attach a pick to get rid of Sato.

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