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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1221 » by GONYK » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:00 am

Here's a refresher for any aspiring Slate writers (and readers)

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1222 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:08 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Or the Christian Science Monitor.

https://www.csmonitor.com/1995/0207/07014.html

Or The Atlantic?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/why-postal-service-worth-saving/610672/

Or the LA Times

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-08-10/postal-service-attack-endangers-democracy

Or many other news outlets and people educated on the subject. I have no obligation to provide you with a compendium of sources. Like I should dance for you? :lol:

You're a republican lite. So we will never agree on this stuff. You perpetually capitulation to moderate conservatism. That's not the direction that the country is going in. We've been there, done that. It's the reason which created the conditions for Trump to become President. Your view on his is both short-sided and naive, just like Clyde's.


So GONYK and I are short-sighted and naive, because according to you we are now Republicans who rejected your incredibly stupid Sam Seder post. You never admit when you make a mistake and instead you double down with additional lies and trolling.


It would just like you to cherry pick one particular source when I listed many others. So why even discus this further? Perhaps you should read up on the issue and educate yourself before you take ill-conceived positions. I left a Slate article for GONYK on the House Democrats cluelessness, led by Pelosi. Maybe you should read it too.


It was a single foolish post, not an ala carte menu of political interpretations. You posted an idiotic tweet. Deal with it

You're the one who is consistently guilty of cherry picking so that is ironic. You post whatever cherry falls in your lap without a lick of due diligence. If you had practiced law the way you post, you were not a good attorney, because you grab whatever titillates your bias without qualifying it. That makes you a troll. You have lost all credibility here. Either you can clean up your methods and regain some respect or continue to post as you do. That's your choice, but don't pass the buck to us.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1223 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:11 am

GONYK wrote:What is the House supposed to do about the Post Office, in terms of policy, if the Senate is in recess?

Pass something symbolic that won't be taken up until Labor day anyway, and that McConnell will never bring for a vote?

It's almost as if Slate just wrote something to be provocative, without actually caring about how our government works.


They need to be hammering this home everyday before the national and international media in DC. They should subpoena witnesses and hold hearings, you know, do their freaking jobs. What are they doing back home? Campaigning? Campaigning where exactly? Everything is virtual.

Show that they at least care.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1224 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:17 am

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/11/sanders-joins-calls-resignation-or-removal-postmaster-general-over-efforts-suppress

Sanders Joins Calls for Resignation or Removal of Postmaster General Over Efforts to 'Suppress the Vote and Undermine Democracy'
The Vermont senator accused Postmaster General Louis DeJoy of "a blatant attempt" to sabotage the U.S. Postal Service ahead of the November elections.
By: Jake Johnson, staff writer
August 11, 2020

Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday became the latest lawmaker to demand the immediate resignation or removal of Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a major Republican donor to President Donald Trump whose brief tenure as head of the most popular government institution in the U.S. has brought major nationwide slowdowns in package delivery less than 90 days before an election that could hinge on mail-in ballots.

"Make no mistake about it. This is a blatant attempt by Trump's handpicked Postmaster General (and campaign contributor) to sabotage the Postal Service, suppress the vote, and undermine democracy," the Vermont senator tweeted in response to the Postal Service's decision to charge states higher rates to mail ballots to voters.

"The Postmaster General should either resign or be removed from office—immediately," said Sanders.

Read on Twitter


Sanders joined a growing chorus of lawmakers and ordinary Americans calling for the swift removal of DeJoy, a former North Carolina logistics executive with tens of millions invested in USPS competitors. In statements over the weekend, Reps. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) and Alma Adams (D-N.C.) said DeJoy should be removed from his post for threatening "the voting rights of millions of Americans" to "aid Trump's reelection efforts."

Additionally, more than 330,000 people have signed a MoveOn.org petition urging the USPS Board of Governors to oust DeJoy over "actions that are disrupting the mission of the United States Postal Service." The board—which appointed DeJoy in May despite his complete lack of experience at the Postal Service and potential conflicts of interest—has the authority to remove a sitting Postmaster General with a majority vote.

"With a federal election less than three months away in the midst of a global pandemic," the petition reads, "it is imperative that the timely delivery of United States mail be made a priority. Mr. DeJoy is a barrier to this necessity."

Read on Twitter


Demands for DeJoy's removal have intensified in the wake of his displacement late last week of nearly two dozen top Postal Service officials, a move that was immediately dubbed a "Friday Night Massacre" by lawmakers and critics.

In addition to pressure to step aside, DeJoy is also facing a Senate investigation into his operational changes barring overtime and prohibiting postal workers from sorting mail ahead of their morning deliveries—policies that have alarmed USPS employees and union leaders. Last week, as Common Dreams reported, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) spearheaded a call for the USPS inspector general to launch a probe into DeJoy's actions as well as his potential conflicts of interest.

Warren repeated the demand for an investigation in a tweet Monday, writing that "there is nothing normal about a Trump campaign megadonor with at least $30 million invested in USPS competitors being appointed as Postmaster General to sabotage our mail delivery and threaten our elections."

"The USPS inspector general must investigate this corruption now," Warren added.

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1225 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:29 am

Letter from Birmingham Jail (ext)

By Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."


Curtis Mayfield! :nod:

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1226 » by robillionaire » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:23 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/11/sanders-joins-calls-resignation-or-removal-postmaster-general-over-efforts-suppress

Sanders Joins Calls for Resignation or Removal of Postmaster General Over Efforts to 'Suppress the Vote and Undermine Democracy'
The Vermont senator accused Postmaster General Louis DeJoy of "a blatant attempt" to sabotage the U.S. Postal Service ahead of the November elections.
By: Jake Johnson, staff writer
August 11, 2020

Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday became the latest lawmaker to demand the immediate resignation or removal of Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a major Republican donor to President Donald Trump whose brief tenure as head of the most popular government institution in the U.S. has brought major nationwide slowdowns in package delivery less than 90 days before an election that could hinge on mail-in ballots.

"Make no mistake about it. This is a blatant attempt by Trump's handpicked Postmaster General (and campaign contributor) to sabotage the Postal Service, suppress the vote, and undermine democracy," the Vermont senator tweeted in response to the Postal Service's decision to charge states higher rates to mail ballots to voters.

"The Postmaster General should either resign or be removed from office—immediately," said Sanders.

Read on Twitter


Sanders joined a growing chorus of lawmakers and ordinary Americans calling for the swift removal of DeJoy, a former North Carolina logistics executive with tens of millions invested in USPS competitors. In statements over the weekend, Reps. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) and Alma Adams (D-N.C.) said DeJoy should be removed from his post for threatening "the voting rights of millions of Americans" to "aid Trump's reelection efforts."

Additionally, more than 330,000 people have signed a MoveOn.org petition urging the USPS Board of Governors to oust DeJoy over "actions that are disrupting the mission of the United States Postal Service." The board—which appointed DeJoy in May despite his complete lack of experience at the Postal Service and potential conflicts of interest—has the authority to remove a sitting Postmaster General with a majority vote.

"With a federal election less than three months away in the midst of a global pandemic," the petition reads, "it is imperative that the timely delivery of United States mail be made a priority. Mr. DeJoy is a barrier to this necessity."

Read on Twitter


Demands for DeJoy's removal have intensified in the wake of his displacement late last week of nearly two dozen top Postal Service officials, a move that was immediately dubbed a "Friday Night Massacre" by lawmakers and critics.

In addition to pressure to step aside, DeJoy is also facing a Senate investigation into his operational changes barring overtime and prohibiting postal workers from sorting mail ahead of their morning deliveries—policies that have alarmed USPS employees and union leaders. Last week, as Common Dreams reported, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) spearheaded a call for the USPS inspector general to launch a probe into DeJoy's actions as well as his potential conflicts of interest.

Warren repeated the demand for an investigation in a tweet Monday, writing that "there is nothing normal about a Trump campaign megadonor with at least $30 million invested in USPS competitors being appointed as Postmaster General to sabotage our mail delivery and threaten our elections."

"The USPS inspector general must investigate this corruption now," Warren added.



at what point did we just accept that openly sabotaging an election is acceptable business as usual? I mean we accepted the covert ways to sabotage elections for a long time now but they were never this brazen about it. like imagine for a minute the outrage if some country that the us imperialists wanted to invade did this, like literally crippled their own post office before an election to stop people from voting
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1227 » by GONYK » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:27 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
GONYK wrote:What is the House supposed to do about the Post Office, in terms of policy, if the Senate is in recess?

Pass something symbolic that won't be taken up until Labor day anyway, and that McConnell will never bring for a vote?

It's almost as if Slate just wrote something to be provocative, without actually caring about how our government works.


They need to be hammering this home everyday before the national and international media in DC. They should subpoena witnesses and hold hearings, you know, do their freaking jobs. What are they doing back home? Campaigning? Campaigning where exactly? Everything is virtual.

Show that they at least care.
I agree with you on this, but that's not policy.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1228 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:05 pm

Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1229 » by rammagen » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:16 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.



What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.
Quote from ESPN’s Bill Simmons posted on Twitter “28 FT’s to 5. I don’t watch rigged NBA games, I’m switching to hockey”
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1230 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:34 pm

rammagen wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.



What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.


Did you really just write that you don’t understand Kulinski’s point? Can you further detail exactly where your point of confusion is bc I find that fascinating.

Your point about experimenting with drugs or being prescribed medications is just you attempt to gaslight. You can take that someone here else.

Do you live here in America or somewhere else?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1231 » by frothbrain » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:02 pm

rammagen wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.



What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.


You do realize Obamacare costs more per capita by having a middle man, for profit, insurance company handle the claims while also making it more difficult for people to gain access to?

It's an unconstitutional(hence why you could just not pay the fine, without consequence) policy that enriches corporate healthcare.

Medicare for all is the only cost-efficient responsible form of socialized medicine.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1232 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:14 pm

frothbrain wrote:
rammagen wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.



What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.


You do realize Obamacare costs more per capita by having a middle man, for profit, insurance company handle the claims while also making it more difficult for people to gain access to?

It's an unconstitutional(hence why you could just not pay the fine, without consequence) policy that enriches corporate healthcare.

Medicare for all is the only cost-efficient responsible form of socialized medicine.


This is what happens when the Democratic Presidential nominee is bought off by the millions of dollars the insurance industry lines his pockets with.

He's a corrupt and stubborn old goat.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1233 » by Knick4Real » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:24 pm

rammagen wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.



What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.


GOOD POINT!!

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Post#1234 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:26 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
He's a corrupt and stubborn old goat.


Why do you persist in talking about yourself in the third person?
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Post#1235 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:43 pm

rammagen wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.



What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.

We don't have a Democracy we have a Republic. Hence your confusion.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1236 » by Pointgod » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:46 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
GONYK wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
I'm shocked you would say such a thing. :rofl:

You shouldn't be. I abhor stupidity

The private companies taking on the slack would pretty much cripple Trump's effort to subvert the election.

It's a great idea, and it doesn't stop anyone from finding the UDPS either.

Sorry if I value that over whatever stupid principle Seder is trying to stand on (which literally has nothing to do with the Lincoln Project or its founders)


Or the Christian Science Monitor.

https://www.csmonitor.com/1995/0207/07014.html

Or The Atlantic?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/why-postal-service-worth-saving/610672/

Or the LA Times

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-08-10/postal-service-attack-endangers-democracy

Or many other news outlets and people educated on the subject. I have no obligation to provide you with a compendium of sources. Like I should dance for you? :lol:

You're a republican lite. So we will never agree on this stuff. You perpetually capitulation to moderate conservatism. That's not the direction that the country is going in. We've been there, done that. It's the reason which created the conditions for Trump to become President. Your view on his is both short-sided and naive, just like Clyde's.


Lol you sound like a Trump supporter calling names to anyone who disagrees with your perspective or take. If Seder doesn’t like the Lincoln Project that’s his prerogative but his argument is disingenuous because it takes context out of the post. If Trump wasn’t deliberately trying to dismantle the post office and Democracy, then there would be no need for FedEx and other private companies to step in and offer FREE services. It’s a solution to a problem created by REPUBLICANS who are the real enemy. If you or Seder don’t like the solution to a problem, then offer what a possible solution should be, but he had a highly disingenuous interpretation of the original tweet the Lincoln Project was responding to.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1237 » by Oscirus » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:26 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
rammagen wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Here’s Joe Biden not making any sense during a recent Yahoo interview.



What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.


Did you really just write that you don’t understand Kulinski’s point? Can you further detail exactly where your point of confusion is bc I find that fascinating.

Your point about experimenting with drugs or being prescribed medications is just you attempt to gaslight. You can take that someone here else.

Do you live here in America or somewhere else?



Is that the same kulinski who accused Warren of torpedoing bernies campaign because she was promised the vp slot? **** that conspiracy theory talking bitch
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Post#1238 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:05 am

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What is the point here he makes no sense neither does the president. At least you can say Biden is honest compared to the 20k lies we have received so far.
Now I understand some of host points but he goes to far overboard. But he is far left and admits to being on drugs...to me that slants his view point and does not make him viable source for anything

Kulinski has admitted to using pharmaceutical drugs such as Adderall, Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, and Klonopin, to what extent is unclear. He has expressed that he is wary of hallucinogens such as LSD, magic mushrooms, and DMT, He uses the plant drug Kratom to help him focus for his job, so he was understandably outraged when the DEA wanted to ban it.

And there is my issue anyone with a camera can have a you tube channel spout that they know something and give their thoughts make commentary and we dont know anything about them they are not vetted, they are you or me on drugs in some cases or peddling a point of view you may agree or disagree with . But the thing is people take this as truth with out knowing if the anything is edited to make the hosts point. I would prefer a better/medical/non bias source before making the judgement someone is unfit.

I understand wanting medicaid for all but at some point the people that can pay for health insurance should so those paying can help cover for those in need. Socialist thought maybe but I believe in a few basic facts...The truth especially in government,
No one in this country should be without food, shelter and medical services, no child should be hungry or denied a lesser education.

I am voting for the best person that aligns with my thoughts tells the truth does not have right wing christians covering for him. The worse day in American history is when Trump lost the popular vote and still got into office. That needs to be fixed, the purpose of a democracy is to serve the will of the majority, in this case it is not.


Did you really just write that you don’t understand Kulinski’s point? Can you further detail exactly where your point of confusion is bc I find that fascinating.

Your point about experimenting with drugs or being prescribed medications is just you attempt to gaslight. You can take that someone here else.

Do you live here in America or somewhere else?



Is that the same kulinski who accused Warren of torpedoing bernies campaign because she was promised the vp slot? **** that conspiracy theory talking bitch


In 2016? Are you saying that Warren wasn’t offered it?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1239 » by Oscirus » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:08 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
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Did you really just write that you don’t understand Kulinski’s point? Can you further detail exactly where your point of confusion is bc I find that fascinating.

Your point about experimenting with drugs or being prescribed medications is just you attempt to gaslight. You can take that someone here else.

Do you live here in America or somewhere else?



Is that the same kulinski who accused Warren of torpedoing bernies campaign because she was promised the vp slot? **** that conspiracy theory talking bitch


In 2016? Are you saying that Warren wasn’t offered it?

Im talking about this cycle and I doubt she was offered it either time
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Post#1240 » by Capn'O » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:19 am

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Letter from Birmingham Jail (ext)

By Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."


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