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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#441 » by Scoots1994 » Sun Aug 9, 2020 4:46 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Depends where you pick them. McKinnon could be a late pick league winner if he's healthy. I'll probably try to nab him late. Mostert will go much earlier, but is the much safer bet to get consistent touches.

Agreed that Coleman is garbage.


Not disagreeing on your general ranking ... but how does a "garbage" player have a 4TD day? I would say he's a functional NFL RB but just a reserve.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#442 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:06 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Depends where you pick them. McKinnon could be a late pick league winner if he's healthy. I'll probably try to nab him late. Mostert will go much earlier, but is the much safer bet to get consistent touches.

Agreed that Coleman is garbage.


Not disagreeing on your general ranking ... but how does a "garbage" player have a 4TD day? I would say he's a functional NFL RB but just a reserve.


He's right up there with Al Bundy, for sure.

Coleman has some strengths. Well, one anyway. He's fast, and if he gets in the open field, he's a threat to score at any time. But he's an upright runner with below average vision, minimal wiggle and less power who holds this offense back when he is on the field IMO. Sure, he's a functional NFL RB, but so are a ton of guys - including a bunch who aren't even in the league. If he cost us $500K a year instead of $5 million, I'd be more amenable to keeping him on the squad. But I'd rather have one of the undrafted rookies on the roster over him, and that might be true even if they were making the same amount.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#443 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:25 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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CrimsonCrew wrote:Depends where you pick them. McKinnon could be a late pick league winner if he's healthy. I'll probably try to nab him late. Mostert will go much earlier, but is the much safer bet to get consistent touches.

Agreed that Coleman is garbage.


Not disagreeing on your general ranking ... but how does a "garbage" player have a 4TD day? I would say he's a functional NFL RB but just a reserve.


He's right up there with Al Bundy, for sure.

Coleman has some strengths. Well, one anyway. He's fast, and if he gets in the open field, he's a threat to score at any time. But he's an upright runner with below average vision, minimal wiggle and less power who holds this offense back when he is on the field IMO. Sure, he's a functional NFL RB, but so are a ton of guys - including a bunch who aren't even in the league. If he cost us $500K a year instead of $5 million, I'd be more amenable to keeping him on the squad. But I'd rather have one of the undrafted rookies on the roster over him, and that might be true even if they were making the same amount.


That's kind of a description of Jeff Wilson too, though Wilson has more power but Coleman is a better blocker. All of the RBs last year were kind of one dimensional.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#444 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:22 pm

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Not disagreeing on your general ranking ... but how does a "garbage" player have a 4TD day? I would say he's a functional NFL RB but just a reserve.


He's right up there with Al Bundy, for sure.

Coleman has some strengths. Well, one anyway. He's fast, and if he gets in the open field, he's a threat to score at any time. But he's an upright runner with below average vision, minimal wiggle and less power who holds this offense back when he is on the field IMO. Sure, he's a functional NFL RB, but so are a ton of guys - including a bunch who aren't even in the league. If he cost us $500K a year instead of $5 million, I'd be more amenable to keeping him on the squad. But I'd rather have one of the undrafted rookies on the roster over him, and that might be true even if they were making the same amount.


That's kind of a description of Jeff Wilson too, though Wilson has more power but Coleman is a better blocker. All of the RBs last year were kind of one dimensional.


Wilson is MUCH more powerful. And probably a better receiver. He's also scheduled to make $750K this year. If that was the price tag for Coleman, fine. But he's being paid like a starting RB, so that's the standard by which he's evaluated. And by that standard, he's bad.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#445 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:59 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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He's right up there with Al Bundy, for sure.

Coleman has some strengths. Well, one anyway. He's fast, and if he gets in the open field, he's a threat to score at any time. But he's an upright runner with below average vision, minimal wiggle and less power who holds this offense back when he is on the field IMO. Sure, he's a functional NFL RB, but so are a ton of guys - including a bunch who aren't even in the league. If he cost us $500K a year instead of $5 million, I'd be more amenable to keeping him on the squad. But I'd rather have one of the undrafted rookies on the roster over him, and that might be true even if they were making the same amount.


That's kind of a description of Jeff Wilson too, though Wilson has more power but Coleman is a better blocker. All of the RBs last year were kind of one dimensional.


Wilson is MUCH more powerful. And probably a better receiver. He's also scheduled to make $750K this year. If that was the price tag for Coleman, fine. But he's being paid like a starting RB, so that's the standard by which he's evaluated. And by that standard, he's bad.


Yeah, I agree Coleman isn't the 13th best RB in the NFL (which is where his salary ranks)
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#447 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:26 pm

Looking for some speed after losing Travis Benjamin. I don't really have any interest in Austin. He's fast, but he's never been a true deep threat. And he's just not that good. That Rams extension was one of the worst contracts in the history of the league.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#448 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:24 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Looking for some speed after losing Travis Benjamin. I don't really have any interest in Austin. He's fast, but he's never been a true deep threat. And he's just not that good. That Rams extension was one of the worst contracts in the history of the league.


I didn't get why so many 49ers fans wanted to draft him. He's not much of a receiver or a runner with the ball.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#449 » by GS Warriors 1 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:41 am

Ian Rapoport with a late night report about 90 minutes ago that 49ers TE George Kittle is closing in on agreement of a multi-year contract extension.

Early rumor numbers I've seen is that this contract, annually, is likely going to exceed $15M per year. Something changed in the last 24-48 hours, for sure with those reports of slow progress. Regardless, it appears that Kittle is going to be with the 49ers for several more years.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#450 » by Mamba Mentality » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:14 pm

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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#451 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 pm

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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#452 » by wco81 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:54 pm

GS Warriors 1 wrote:Ian Rapoport with a late night report about 90 minutes ago that 49ers TE George Kittle is closing in on agreement of a multi-year contract extension.

Early rumor numbers I've seen is that this contract, annually, is likely going to exceed $15M per year. Something changed in the last 24-48 hours, for sure with those reports of slow progress. Regardless, it appears that Kittle is going to be with the 49ers for several more years.



Headline number is 5 years $75 million. But it's front-loaded and full guarantees are $40 million.

So at 26 years of age, he could play out all 5 years if he keeps up his production and avoids serious injury.

I'm sure though that they will be looking to draft potential TE1 in the next 2-4 years though.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#453 » by GS Warriors 1 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:10 pm

Here are the Kittle numbers:

5 years, $75M extension which kicks in 2021. He is signed through 2025 season.

$40M total guaranteed, $30M fully guaranteed

$18M signing bonus, which a prorated bonus would be added to this year's cap number.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#454 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:49 am

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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#455 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:32 pm

JALEN HURD
WR, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS


Jalen Hurd (back) was limited in the 49ers' first training camp practice.

Hurd practiced with the team during the first portion, but then went to the sideline for the second half. It likely means he's close to a full return. With Deebo Samuel (foot) looking 50/50 to play the season opener, Hurd could become a deep-league fantasy player to know early in the season. Hurd is a physically impressive player with lots of college production at multiple positions, making him a great fit with the ever-so creative Kyle Shanahan. Expect Brandon Aiyuk, Trent Taylor, Hurd, and others to compete for snaps left behind Emmanuel Sanders.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#456 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:34 pm

TRENT TAYLOR
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The Mercury News' Cam Inman called Trent Taylor the 49ers' "No. 1 slot option."

Taylor has returned to practice following a wasted 2019 season due to a problematic foot injury that required five-plus surgeries. After Saturday's practice, coach Kyle Shanahan said, "I was really happy for him, how he’s overcome a lot with infections and rehab. To get him back out there is a huge deal. He looks like the same guy." The 49ers receiver depth chart is crowded but lacks certified talent, particularly in the slot whenever the 49ers opt for three-receiver sets. Taylor, if healthy, has the inside track to that role, but there are a lot of moving parts. Deebo Samuel (foot) is not a lock to be available for Week 1 and Brandon Aiyuk could take a commanding receiver role if he lives up to his first-round draft capital.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#457 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:39 pm

RAHEEM MOSTERT
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The Mercury News' Cam Inman notes the order of the 49ers RB rotation at the first practice was Raheem Mostert, Tevin Coleman, Jerick McKinnon, Jeff Wilson and Jamycal Hasty.

These are the reports that we've been waiting for all offseason. The order of the rotation is what has been projected by the fantasy community, although it's not guaranteed to last the entire season. Coleman may get some "starts" as the 49ers look to wear out defenses with his bigger body, but Mostert is the favorite to lead the backfield in touches after a huge end of the 2019 season. Inman also notes that McKinnon (knee) looked much better in practice than he did a year ago. When asked about McKinnon, coach Kyle Shanahan said, "It’s still the first step, first day but you can tell it healed right." If things go smoothly, McKinnon could mix in as a third-down back behind Mostert and Coleman. The 49ers running backs combined for the fourth-most PPR points in the NFL last season.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#459 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:20 am



If he doesn't pan out, that one is going to sting. I'm on record the day of the draft saying we should have taken McLaurin.
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Re: 2020 Offseason 

Post#460 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:23 am

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If he doesn't pan out, that one is going to sting. I'm on record the day of the draft saying we should have taken McLaurin.


Yeah. Peter King's evaluation is the dream, but from day 1 my concern was if he was going to be soft.

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