Whose legacy will be boosted more by another ring: KD or Aaron Rodgers

Je K · Post #41 » by **Je K** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:52 am

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
EasternHeretic wrote:
Je K wrote:Another Super Bowl won't do much to change Rodgers' legacy - Brady is the GOAT due to team success and longevity. However, I think a second Super Bowl would put some more weight behind the argument that Rodgers is the most talented QB of all time.

is mahomes more talented

Arguably is.

I don't think you can say that when Mahomes has only started two seasons and neither has been as good as the best of Rodgers.

Stan · Post #42 » by **Stan** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:04 am

Je K wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
EasternHeretic wrote:is mahomes more talented

Arguably is.

I don't think you can say that when Mahomes has only started two seasons and neither has been as good as the best of Rodgers.

You're a Packer fan, so I don't expect you to be too objective in this discussion, but Mahomes these last two years has been absolutely as good as Rodgers has ever been. 50 TD's & 5000 yards last year, then followed that up with 12 total TD's and a 1,000 total yards through 3 playoff games this year, averaging a ridiculous 40 ppg through the playoffs. That's literally as good as any QB has ever played. And the dude is only 24, imagine when he reaches his peak? That's scary to think about

Lockdown504090 · Post #43 » by **Lockdown504090** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:09 am

i never realized how similar they were. wow. KD, because that steph/warriors thing is gonna haunt him for his entire life.

ScottFnSteiner · Post #44 » by **ScottFnSteiner** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:41 pm

Dunno anything about this Rodgers guy, but Durant won’t be playing basketball at an elite level ever again. Those days are over for him

Jay 20 · Post #45 » by **Jay 20** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:10 pm

Homer38 wrote:
celtics543 wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:put Rodgers on the Patriots and he has just as many rings as Brady

Rodgers has had one top 5 defense in his entire career and guess what... he won a Super Bowl that year

Brady has had a top 5 defense or top 10 defense pretty much every single season

Brady has had the top defense in the NFL two times in his career. 2003 (won SB) and 2016

Brady had a top five defense four other times. 2004 (won SB), 2006 (lost CG), 2007 (lost SB), and 2009 (lost WC)

Give Brady Rodgers receivers and he wins at least one or two more.

Brady is the best QB ever but a team is more that just the WR or TE.Rodgers and the Packers lost 8 times in the playoffs in the career of Rodgers and the packers give up in average over 36 PPG in his loss.The defense of Dom Capers was often a true disaster in the playoffs.For the patriots,they give up 30 points or more in 41 playoffs games with Brady only 5 times!

What was the TOP in those Patriots games for each team? The Patriots offense also knew how to keep opposing offenses off the field to help their defense.

Je K · Post #46 » by **Je K** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:27 pm

Stan wrote:
Je K wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
Arguably is.

I don't think you can say that when Mahomes has only started two seasons and neither has been as good as the best of Rodgers.

You're a Packer fan, so I don't expect you to be too objective in this discussion, but Mahomes these last two years has been absolutely as good as Rodgers has ever been. 50 TD's & 5000 yards last year, then followed that up with 12 total TD's and a 1,000 total yards through 3 playoff games this year, averaging a ridiculous 40 ppg through the playoffs. That's literally as good as any QB has ever played. And the dude is only 24, imagine when he reaches his peak? That's scary to think about

I'm not saying Mahomes won't get there - the dude is incredible and there's a great chance he does. But when I'm thinking about most talented, you have to leave any projections out of it. I think what I've seen from Rodgers throughout his career shows more talent than Mahomes so far. That's not a knock on Mahomes, he's only 24 and he has tons of time to prove me wrong. But for example, Rodgers' 2011 is better than either of Mahomes' seasons so far.

NeutralObserver · Post #47 » by **NeutralObserver** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:44 pm

KD 100%. With three rings and 3 Finals MVPs, he'll be spitting sitting pretty amongst elite company with championship, MVPs, and numbers achieved in an ELITE conference.

Homer38 · Post #48 » by **Homer38** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:13 pm

Jay 20 wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
celtics543 wrote:
Give Brady Rodgers receivers and he wins at least one or two more.

Brady is the best QB ever but a team is more that just the WR or TE.Rodgers and the Packers lost 8 times in the playoffs in the career of Rodgers and the packers give up in average over 36 PPG in his loss.The defense of Dom Capers was often a true disaster in the playoffs.For the patriots,they give up 30 points or more in 41 playoffs games with Brady only 5 times!

What was the TOP in those Patriots games for each team? The Patriots offense also knew how to keep opposing offenses off the field to help their defense.

In points per drive,the pats were often in the top 10...For the packers they were often below average and garbage in the playoffs.

EasternHeretic · Post #49 » by **EasternHeretic** » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:36 pm

ScottFnSteiner wrote:Dunno anything about this Rodgers guy, but Durant won’t be playing basketball at an elite level ever again. Those days are over for him

probably

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #50 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:23 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
The season isnt over yet.

Won't matter. Even if the league resumed, the Nets won all of their remaining games and the Celtics lost all of their games, the Nets still wouldn't finish 10 games ahead of the Celtics.

yes it is gauranteed you will win. when the season ends and its officilal i change my avatar

It's time. Don't make me start a new thread buddy. You can change the date of that signature on the day you change your avatar, since I think it suits you well.

Prokorov · Post #51 » by **Prokorov** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:27 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Won't matter. Even if the league resumed, the Nets won all of their remaining games and the Celtics lost all of their games, the Nets still wouldn't finish 10 games ahead of the Celtics.

yes it is gauranteed you will win. when the season ends and its officilal i change my avatar

It's time. Don't make me start a new thread buddy. You can change the date of that signature on the day you change your avatar, since I think it suits you well.

Stop fronting like i dont keep my word. bump the bet and ill do what i always do and abide by the bet.

CeltsfanSinceBirth · Post #52 » by **CeltsfanSinceBirth** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:50 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
yes it is gauranteed you will win. when the season ends and its officilal i change my avatar

It's time. Don't make me start a new thread buddy. You can change the date of that signature on the day you change your avatar, since I think it suits you well.

Stop fronting like i dont keep my word. bump the bet and ill do what i always do and abide by the bet.

Can't bump it because the thread is locked.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1876869&start=40#p77887353

Here's your new avatar though:

Swift21 · Post #53 » by **Swift21** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:12 pm

Rodgers.

I don't think KD will get much credit no matter what he does from here on out. Most will never get over his decision to join GSW.

jdzimme3 · Post #54 » by **jdzimme3** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:02 am

I like the comparison. You don’t have to take anything away from rodgers super bowl to recognize that all time great qbs are likely disappointed if they only win 1. Rodgers has the numbers and the longevity to be in that conversation but hasn’t had enough playoff success. I don’t have an answer but think both guys legacy benefits greatly from another title.

JayMKE · Post #55 » by **JayMKE** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:14 am

Probably Rodgers since if he closed his career with another ring he'd be back into GOAT discussion, KD I don't see turning it around as a #1 guy on a championship team going forward. Both would be super impressive and boost their respective legacies!

illuminati666 · Post #56 » by **illuminati666** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:17 am

I think its Rodgers. The Nets are just another manufactured super team, he joined an already very strong team. nothing wrong with that but Rodgers has stuck with the Packers and it would just do a lot for his narrative if he wins one with everyone doubting him and his team right now.

Metallikid · Post #57 » by **Metallikid** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:03 am

Bringing a title to the Nets franchise would be huge for KD.

JordansBulls · Post #58 » by **JordansBulls** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:16 am

Rodgers because with another ring he could submit himself a for sure top 3 QB alltime. Durant even with another ring wouldn't crack the top 10 all time.

Prokorov · Post #59 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:10 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
It's time. Don't make me start a new thread buddy. You can change the date of that signature on the day you change your avatar, since I think it suits you well.

Stop fronting like i dont keep my word. bump the bet and ill do what i always do and abide by the bet.

Can't bump it because the thread is locked.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1876869&start=40#p77887353

Here's your new avatar though:

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Post #60 » by **HMFFL** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:23 am

JordansBulls wrote:Rodgers because with another ring he could submit himself a for sure top 3 QB alltime. Durant even with another ring wouldn't crack the top 10 all time.

He probably still wouldn't be considered the best Green Bay Packers QB of all time if he wins his second Super Bowl. It would tie Brett Favre.

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