Raps 2020 Picks (Prospect Watch, Update: Vecenie Mock Released)

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I think he's Carlos Arroyo with deep 3pt range. Being an under the rim athlete maybe he drops to #59?

Fred VanVleet dropped right out of both rounds.

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He went at every player that Arizona could put on him and willed the comeback to OT, where they got the W.

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I think he's Carlos Arroyo with deep 3pt range. Being an under the rim athlete maybe he drops to #59?

Fred VanVleet dropped right out of both rounds.

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He went at every player that Arizona could put on him and willed the comeback to OT, where they got the W.

I'd love to get him at 58 or as an UDFA if we don't draft a point guard at 28. He's my favorite 2nd round PG, after Flynn. The kid's range is ridiculous.

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I think he's Carlos Arroyo with deep 3pt range. Being an under the rim athlete maybe he drops to #59?

Fred VanVleet dropped right out of both rounds.

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He went at every player that Arizona could put on him and willed the comeback to OT, where they got the W.

I'd love to get him at 59 or as an UDFA if we don't draft a point guard at 29. He's my favorite 2nd round PG, after Flynn. The kid's range is ridiculous.

If guys like Casius Winston, Flynn, Trey Jones, Riller, Mays, Myles Powell, Markus Howard, Ashton Hagans, Arturs Kurucs all get drafted in the late 1st / 2nd round, I think Pritchard will be there at #59.

That's why I want to go big (or forward) at #29 as there are way more guards that might slip.

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I think he's Carlos Arroyo with deep 3pt range. Being an under the rim athlete maybe he drops to #59?

Fred VanVleet dropped right out of both rounds.

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He went at every player that Arizona could put on him and willed the comeback to OT, where they got the W.

I think you and me are on the same wave length with prospect watching. I have been going through all of the PGs again to dig a bit deeper. Pritchard is really hard to ignore with his clutch scoring, smart passing and winning. He is a very skilled player but I some of the things I dislike make him a guy at 59. Not a big fan of how he creates space. He doesn't have a ton of wiggle and relies pretty heavily on his step-back. Not much burst and scoring at the rim will harm his prospects. His game is passable in college, but in the NBA it will be an issue.

At 29, I still like Devon Dotson because of his speed, Riller because of his multi-level scoring but guys like Skylar Mays, Malachi Flynn also have well-rounded two-way games. Flynn and Mays will be able to step in right away while Dotson and Riller gives Toronto shot creation. Pritchard feels like a solid scorer and a smart player, but I am not sure I would bank on him over those other prospects.

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I think you and me are on the same wave length with prospect watching. I have been going through all of the PGs again to dig a bit deeper. Pritchard is really hard to ignore with his clutch scoring, smart passing and winning. He is a very skilled player but I some of the things I dislike make him a guy at 59. Not a big fan of how he creates space. He doesn't have a ton of wiggle and relies pretty heavily on his step-back. Not much burst and scoring at the rim will harm his prospects. His game is passable in college, but in the NBA it will be an issue.

At 29, I still like Devon Dotson because of his speed, Riller because of his multi-level scoring but guys like Skylar Mays, Malachi Flynn also have well-rounded two-way games. Flynn and Mays will be able to step in right away while Dotson and Riller gives Toronto shot creation. Pritchard feels like a solid scorer and a smart player, but I am not sure I would bank on him over those other prospects.

Exactly how I feel. I think all of what you said about Pritchard was said about FVV. At #59, just looking for a solid backup PG that has potential to develop in our system like FVV. His footwork on his step back looks solid and balanced like Harden, thus he shoots at 40% which includes his many deep 3's. He also shoots the transition 3 like Lowry. At least his A/T is 2 and leads a winning team.

The more pressing need is at forward / big, so Reed / Tillman are my targets at #29. Hopefully Boucher continues to get stronger. If he can continue to improve on rebounding perhaps don't need to draft a C right now and see if Dewan develops any further.

If the Raptors win back to back championships, they may become a popular ring-chasing destination and then you just pick BPA or trade for future assets or consolidate assets in a trade like Derozan, Poeltl and 1st pick or JV, Wright and Miles.

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Isaiah Joe is back!

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Isaiah Joe is back!

Nice!!!! He'll likely go before #59 so that means 1 better guard will be available at #59.

When's the deadline?

Maybe Jordan Nnwora drops to #59. More Africans to entice Giannis!

What about Jared Butler? Can other players declare late if their conference cancels play? Wendell Moore from Duke?

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I see Joe is back in and that is good overall for the draft and I am curious if others who were late drop-outs may opt to go back into the draft (like Ayo Dosunmu).

In mentioning Joe, I can't help but point out his teammate Mason Jones, who to me, is the better player and may end up in the top 20 of this draft class. I have watched so much on Jones and despite his lack of vertical lift, this guy is a rare scorer. I know he is not on that level, but he plays a ground bound game similar to Harden.

Jones has this great knack for drawing fouls and baiting defenders. I am curious where he lands but coming in as a 22 PPG scorer on good percentages bodes well for him in the NBA. Against good competition, he always showed up. He cooked Isaac Okoro for 40 points, he outdueled Skylar Mays 36-28, also outdueled Desmond Bane (20-8) hung 38 on Robert Woodard Jr. (not really primary defender but they had no answer collectively).

Jones is a strong player with great balance and finishing ability. To me he has to be in the conversation at 29, but not sure how Toronto would view his game but guys like Riller, Bane, Mays all look pretty similar - SG scorers who are crafty more than they are athletic. Jones might be the best scorer out of all of them.

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Watching today's Raptor game got me thinking Garrett Temple has been around a long time.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/garrett-temple-1.html

He never even averaged double-digits in any of his 4 years at LSU.

He developed a 3pt shot that didn't hurt his team and played on bad teams and did enough manage a 10 year career!

He got luck that Sacramento overpaid to take him away from Washington.

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Watching today's Raptor game got me thinking Garrett Temple has been around a long time.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/garrett-temple-1.html

He never even averaged double-digits in any of his 4 years at LSU.

He developed a 3pt shot that didn't hurt his team and played on bad teams and did enough manage a 10 year career!

He got luck that Sacramento overpaid to take him away from Washington.

It is through hard work he figured out his offensive game, but he was always be a gritty defender. I don't think they kept steal% back when he was in college, but he had to be a leader.

A guy who will likely go undrafted but could end up having a good career like Temple is Christian Vital from UCONN. Just a sticky point of attack defender.

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This exact reasoning is why I was so shocked to hear how many guys were returning to school.
It's not even guranteed that they will be playing yet and you have the chance to get drafted and secure your future instead

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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/

If the draft worked out anywhere near these rankings I would go:

29) Bane / Flynn / Reed
59) Diakite / Marshall

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I see Joe is back in and that is good overall for the draft and I am curious if others who were late drop-outs may opt to go back into the draft (like Ayo Dosunmu).

In mentioning Joe, I can't help but point out his teammate Mason Jones, who to me, is the better player and may end up in the top 20 of this draft class. I have watched so much on Jones and despite his lack of vertical lift, this guy is a rare scorer. I know he is not on that level, but he plays a ground bound game similar to Harden.

Jones has this great knack for drawing fouls and baiting defenders. I am curious where he lands but coming in as a 22 PPG scorer on good percentages bodes well for him in the NBA. Against good competition, he always showed up. He cooked Isaac Okoro for 40 points, he outdueled Skylar Mays 36-28, also outdueled Desmond Bane (20-8) hung 38 on Robert Woodard Jr. (not really primary defender but they had no answer collectively).

Jones is a strong player with great balance and finishing ability. To me he has to be in the conversation at 29, but not sure how Toronto would view his game but guys like Riller, Bane, Mays all look pretty similar - SG scorers who are crafty more than they are athletic. Jones might be the best scorer out of all of them.

Yuge fan of Jones only reason I originally watched some Arkansas games was for Isaiah joe but Jones was definitely the better player. For someone who doesn’t really dunk his % at the rim is uncanny.

His lack of athleticism doesn’t hurt him on offence cause similarly to Luka he’s strong(very very strong), & always on balance. Issue with him becomes can he guard in the NBA, and can he fine tune that jumper aswell.

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Ideal draft:
29 -Mason Jones, Xavier Tillman, Grant Riller, Poku(pipe dream)

59- Naji Marshall, Nate Hinton,

Undrafted: Ty-shon Alexander

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Wouldn't be against trading our first+Stanley for New orleans' top 2 2nd rounders and cap space and give this kid the Raptors development treatment.

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Ideal draft:
29 -Mason Jones, Xavier Tillman, Grant Riller, Poku(pipe dream)

59- Naji Marshall, Nate Hinton,

Undrafted: Ty-shon Alexander

I like you whole list except Mason Jones. Just doesn't fit the type of player that fits with the raps. If you don't play good d you're not gonna stick around long

Poku would be unreal

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Ideal draft:
29 -Mason Jones, Xavier Tillman, Grant Riller, Poku(pipe dream)

59- Naji Marshall, Nate Hinton,

Undrafted: Ty-shon Alexander

Perfect list of prospects you have laid out there. Naji and Nate would be great gets at 59. Ty-shon Alexander would also be a nice pick-up, but I think we will be in a steep competition for his services.

Not sure if Jones would be ideal at 29, but if you buy his game a work ethic you might see some better defense than what he displayed in Arkansas. Mussellman through him into the deep-end as their high usage guard so I am not sure how much he had left for defense. He will have a different role in the NBA.

The way I look at Jones is he is just getting into basketball and just got his body right. I always like those heavier dudes that tone up like him. Harden is a similar guy with a big frame, so you can see how it works when you are driving as much as Jones does. His FTr was ridiculous last season.

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Wouldn't be against trading our first+Stanley for New orleans' top 2 2nd rounders and cap space and give this kid the Raptors development treatment.

He has style with his passes and dribbling, but I don't buy him as a superstar in the making because his frame sucks. I think the whole unicorn thing is bad for prospect watching. Everyone wants the next Kristaps or Giannis, but you look at this guy and wonder how long will it take for him to fill out if he does at all. Both Giannis and Kristaps showed early skill and had decent looking frames. This guy looks narrow as hell. We have Boucher who really can't seem to gain weight and it holds him back.

If I invest a first and other assets I would go for a SF like Patrick Williams, or a PG like Kyra Lewis. You know what you are going to get with those two. Poku is just too risky to throwaway assets for.

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ESPNs new mock I didn’t like

29: Cassius Winston

Guys Left on the board who i like better
Tre Jones, Devon Dotson, Zeke Nnaji , Xavier Tillman, Riller, Bane, Terry and Perry

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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankings/

If the draft worked out anywhere near these rankings I would go:

29) Bane / Flynn / Reed
59) Diakite / Marshall

Dream scenario I'd go
29) McDaniels
59) Mane/Saben/Naji
UD) Udoka/Eboua/Tyshon