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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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13%
Scoring Guard
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62%
Great Shooter
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18%
3&D Wing
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7%
 
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Post#981 » by tiderulz » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:42 am

pepe1991 wrote:I would just draft Tyrell Terry and call a day for 2020 draft.

Guy isn't big, but can shoot from just about anywhere. As catch&shoot player, he is already better than vast majority of Magic players.
He is more of a scorer than passer but i can live with that. Knows how to put his shoulders and butt between defenders and himself to create separation and space.

Another bonus, guy actually has competitive spirit within himself and brings energy, unlike some lottery prospect we drafted ...

This simply isn't year where Magic are capable of making good long term decisions. They have nothing to base them off. Too many what -ifs still looming.

We don't know is there anybody worth building roster around. Last thing this team needs is once again lock themselfs into second tear "stars" like they did with Oladipo, Harris, Ibaka and Vuc and overpay Biyombo type players than figure ceiling of that team is 40 wins.

So i assume that for next year Magic won't do much moves until it comes time to move Evan ( as he will pick his player's option) around in-season trade deadline and Gordon, for longer, more controlable contract.

Okeke will play his first games.
Fultz is in that moment 4th year, 23 years old player, time to show what he is and what he isn't.
Bamba is also 23 , it's make of break season for him.
Isaac is out for probably whole year.

and ill take Kira Lewis over Tyrell, for many of the same things. Similar size (slightly taller), extremely fast, brings energy himself, is a complete scorer from all levels and has shown growth.
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Post#982 » by KillMonger » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:09 am

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What this is telling me is that if you take away the PF's and C's we're going to have a bunch of combo guards to choose from of course if we stand pat and not try and move up.....and honestly we should take a guard, most likely it's going to be BPA anyway
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Post#983 » by drsd » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:00 pm

KillMonger wrote:What this is telling me is that if you take away the PF's and C's we're going to have a bunch of combo guards to choose from of course if we stand pat and not try and move up.....and honestly we should take a guard, most likely it's going to be BPA anyway


Orlando's need is for a SG or a combo-wing.

But the Brass will select Mr. BPA.


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Post#984 » by Def Swami » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:42 pm

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Post#985 » by KillMonger » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:23 pm

Thoughts on Isaiah Joe? he reversed his decision and is staying in the draft....




Dude has a burner
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Post#986 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:32 pm

KillMonger wrote:Thoughts on Isaiah Joe? he reversed his decision and is staying in the draft....




Dude has a burner

He’s another bad bad man when it comes to scoring the ball. At this point the Magic can’t screw it up with all these 2/3 guys who should be available at 15.

Over the last two years, he’s shot 37.8% on 548 3s – huge volume, .763 3Pr. Easy projection going forward given the volume he’s shot so far and his FT% – 82.7% on 173 attempts the last two seasons.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#987 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:45 pm

All I ask is for a guard that is a pure scorer with playmaking ability. Someone who can score with or without the ball in their hands. Doesn't even have to be a defender at all.
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Post#988 » by jezzerinho » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:02 pm

Trevelin Queen would be an interesting 2nd rounder for Orlando. Great story and a rapidly improving player, even if he's 22/23.
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Post#989 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:31 am

Bey would be extremely intriguing if the FO is interested in re booting/mini blow up. 6’8” 6’10” Wingspan smart dude. Could he play the 2/3 spot

The heart of Bey's value is going to lie in his shooting, though. Here's what some of his advanced shooting looks like, per Wasserman's big board: "He's also one of the nation's most efficient half-court players, ranking in the 98th percentile out of spot-ups, the 88th percentile as a pick-and-roll ball-handler, the 86th percentile on post-ups, the 91st percentile on cuts and 98th percentile off screens."

Bey is a great three-point shooter, as he shot 45.1 percent from deep last season. What makes it more impressive is that he attempted so many threes. He averaged 5.6 three-pointers attempted per game, which proves that he can shoot consistently. Bey can stretch the floor and his range will extend out deeper than the NBA three-point line.

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Post#990 » by jonbob17 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:17 am

KillMonger wrote:Thoughts on Isaiah Joe? he reversed his decision and is staying in the draft....




Dude has a burner


He is supposed to be an exceptionally terrible defender, even with very good length, 6'10 wing span. I like him but think he is going to need some time in the G League, maybe the Magic could buy a late pick if he is still on the board.
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Post#991 » by KillMonger » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:54 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Thoughts on Isaiah Joe? he reversed his decision and is staying in the draft....




Dude has a burner

He’s another bad bad man when it comes to scoring the ball. At this point the Magic can’t screw it up with all these 2/3 guys who should be available at 15.

Over the last two years, he’s shot 37.8% on 548 3s – huge volume, .763 3Pr. Easy projection going forward given the volume he’s shot so far and his FT% – 82.7% on 173 attempts the last two seasons.

I really like him, i thought for sure he'd be returning to school so i didn't pay him no mind but now that he's staying in the draft.....He might be the scorer we need.....with Chuma coming in next year it's like we have another 1st rounder....not only that imo chuma would be top 10 in this draft......If we bring in someone like joe with Chuma we look a lot better in terms of spacing as both can hit the three....I just wish we would actually keep our second rounder, the draft is one of the important ways to infuse talent for us but since weltham we seem to be selling our seconds for cash.....
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Post#992 » by drsd » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:16 pm

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I am guess this was about Portland and Memphis; none of these three teams actually has an equal record, so for Orlando finishing with the 13th least-good record, the 15 slot is OK in the sense that there are two teams "better" thad did not make the playoffs.

Said another way, Orlando has the best not-lottery selection in this draft. As the worst playoff team, that is very logical.


edit: re-reading the poor grammar of the tweet, I see this is about two unrelated things: i) ties were broken (which had NOTHING to do with Orlando), and ii) Orlando is drafting 15 as it always was the day Orlando was the 8-seed in the East.


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Post#993 » by drsd » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:20 pm

Jahmius Ramsey is worth a look at 15. Good range with his jumper and a two-position defender.
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Post#994 » by drsd » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:22 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:All I ask is for a guard that is a pure scorer with playmaking ability. Someone who can score with or without the ball in their hands. Doesn't even have to be a defender at all.



At 15, you are easily requesting Aaron Nesmith.


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Post#995 » by zaymon » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:36 pm

drsd wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:All I ask is for a guard that is a pure scorer with playmaking ability. Someone who can score with or without the ball in their hands. Doesn't even have to be a defender at all.



At 15, you are easily requesting Aaron Nesmith.


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I have cooled off on Nesmith and never was a Ramsay fan. Both propably bench players. Nesmith passing would make Fournier looking like Doncic, and Ramsay feel for the game is in Bamba territory.
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Post#996 » by drsd » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:50 pm

zaymon wrote:I have cooled off on Nesmith and never was a Ramsay fan. Both propably bench players. Nesmith passing would make Fournier looking like Doncic, and Ramsay feel for the game is in Bamba territory.


At 15, drafting a bench player is a positive outcome.


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Post#997 » by jonbob17 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:12 pm

I would like it if the Magic could get a high upside player at 15, Hampton, Maxey, Anthony, I am plenty doubtful the latter two get past 10-12. Then try to get a couple picks toward end of first through cash or trade, take some gambles like Riller, Flynn, Ramsey, Joe, Mannion, or Bane. There will be very good players to come out of this draft. get as many shots as you can. If there is no room on the roster, let them develop in G League.
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Post#998 » by zaymon » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:31 pm

drsd wrote:
zaymon wrote:I have cooled off on Nesmith and never was a Ramsay fan. Both propably bench players. Nesmith passing would make Fournier looking like Doncic, and Ramsay feel for the game is in Bamba territory.


At 15, drafting a bench player is a positive outcome.


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but you never aim for a bench player that high. We need creators. Lewis, Pokusevski, Bolmaro, Anthony, Hampton. Even if we miss we should do it.
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Post#999 » by The Effect » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:08 pm

This FO doesnt draft for depth. They take chances on high upside, which is why you see them draft guys like Giannis but then later Thon Maker, Bruno 2Years and Bamba

Im expecting them to take a flyer on a high upside player, maybe a player that falls out of the lotto, or a euro like zaymons favorite player Pokusevski

Personally im a big nesmith fan and would love to see him, but i dont see him being a Weham guy, and think someone like josh green or RJ Hampton being on their short list
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Post#1000 » by Knightro » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:36 pm

The Effect wrote:This FO doesnt draft for depth. They take chances on high upside, which is why you see them draft guys like Giannis but then later Thon Maker, Bruno 2Years and Bamba

Im expecting them to take a flyer on a high upside player, maybe a player that falls out of the lotto, or a euro like zaymons favorite player Pokusevski

Personally im a big nesmith fan and would love to see him, but i dont see him being a Weham guy, and think someone like josh green or RJ Hampton being on their short list


I think it's more accurate to say they don't draft for *need* and instead opt to take the player they feel as the highest ceiling or the "best player on the board".

Like if Augustin leaves, the obvious hole in the roster is backup point guard/ball handling depth.

But I don't think they will take a PG if they have another position graded higher, even if it's a PF.

The only exception should be picking another center.

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