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2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th!

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick ??? 

Post#41 » by Grodoboldo » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:29 pm

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Great! I like him more than most people, would gladly take him in the top 10. A lights out shooter who is an underrated defender stands out in this draft.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick ??? 

Post#42 » by Jvaughn » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:40 pm

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Jvaughn wrote:I'm not the biggest Ball fan, but at that position I guess you'd have to take him. I'd much rather be somewhere between 3-5, so I can justify taking Hayes or Deni.


You take the guy you think is best. You don't take someone you don't believe in just because other people believe in them. I'm sure someone made the argument to take Durant over Oden and was shot down due to the traditional nature of that argument. If you took Ja over Zion you'd have been mocked (and still might be over the course of their careers, but right now? Maybe not).

I don't have any opinions on these guys, but you take the guy you think will be best and don't need to apologize or find excuses to respect the 'norm'.


Oh, I get it. While, I'm not a Ball fan he may have one of the highest ceilings in this draft. With the lack of high end talent in this draft I think you can take the chance. I personally think Hayes will be better long term, but he has some question marks that may make it a bit of a reach at #1. I'd be down for trading down like someone mentioned ala Trae Young/Doncic deal.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick ??? 

Post#43 » by Jiipee84 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:24 pm

Bullflip wrote:Bulls pick LaMelo Ball.


If it was my business to decide that who Bulls draft i would take one of Ball, Hayes, Haliburton, Avdija, Wiseman.
One of Ball, Hayes and Haliburton could be that starting PG what Bulls are looking for.

Advija would be OK replacement for Otto Porter Jr.
And Wiseman would be OK replacement for one of Markkanen, Carter, Young, Kornet, Felicio ( who ever gets traded of that group ).
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Post#44 » by Dominator83 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:35 pm

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JohnnyKILLroy wrote:If by some miracle who would you take at 1?


Ball, but I actually don't mind staying at 7...which probably means we're picking first.


Yea i just totally have the vibe that, even if we do get lucky and win the lottery, it will be like winning the lottery in the Anthony Bennett draft
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Post#45 » by TheFinishSniper » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:18 am

I would hate Ball pick. But if AK thinks he is BPA then I need to give him a chance, both player and GM need opportunity to prove us wrong. My opinion stills stands Ball being wrong move for Bulls. And I will stand by that even if he came good.

We need star. We need s-t-a-r. We need make moves to get one. Shuffle picks, fiddle with rosters, BJ's under the desk whatever, do whatever we need to get a franchise player AK. Because success comes with drafting or trading for one. Not because you fired clown or hired minority guy as assistant GM.
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Post#46 » by Grodoboldo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:19 am

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I just don't see what everybody else sees in Okoro.
This is a pretty weak draft, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the FO if that ends up being our pick, but I'd be very disappointed initially if we chose him while guys like Haliburton, Hayes, Nesmith, Vassell, Maledon and Williams are still on the board.
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Post#47 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:59 am

^^

I'll take any of the top 4 happily.
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Post#48 » by Dresden » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:30 am

Draftnet has Wiseman falling to us at 7. I think that would be a pretty spectacular outcome.
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Post#50 » by Chicagoat » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:37 am

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I just don't see what everybody else sees in Okoro.
This is a pretty weak draft, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the FO if that ends up being our pick, but I'd be very disappointed initially if we chose him while guys like Haliburton, Hayes, Nesmith, Vassell, Maledon and Williams are still on the board.
I see the appeal for Okoro.

Great finisher and soft touch at the rim. Smart team defender, athletic, NBA ready body, 19 years old, flashed passing and PnR ability.

His shot is busted from what I seen, but you hope with his soft touch at the rim, he will able to develop his shot. But that all depends on his mentality and work ethics. He has the mentality to win and is competitive from what I seen from his film and interviews.

I could see him jumping up on draft boards if we actually have a combine. I'm intrigued by the potential. But I can understand the doubt on his shot improving.

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Post#51 » by Grodoboldo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:56 am

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I just don't see what everybody else sees in Okoro.
This is a pretty weak draft, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the FO if that ends up being our pick, but I'd be very disappointed initially if we chose him while guys like Haliburton, Hayes, Nesmith, Vassell, Maledon and Williams are still on the board.
I see the appeal for Okoro.

Great finisher and soft touch at the rim. Smart team defender, athletic, NBA ready body, 19 years old, flashed passing and PnR ability.

His shot is busted from what I seen, but you hope with his soft touch at the rim, he will able to develop his shot. But that all depends on his mentality and work ethics. He has the mentality to win and is competitive from what I seen from his film and interviews.

I could see him jumping up on draft boards if we actually have a combine. I'm intrigued by the potential. But I can understand the doubt on his shot improving.

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I just feel like his best case scenario is a stronger Jae Crowder.
Now, don't get me wrong, getting Jae Crowder at 7 in a weak draft is actually ok, but I feel that would be his ceiling.

Edit: let me elaborate a little bit.
I feel that it's more probable that Hayes learns to shoot/finish, Haliburton learns to create his own shot, Vassell learns to create better, Nesmith becomes a stronger defender, etc.
Also, I feel that a similar player to the archetype of these other guys is harder/more expensive to get in FA than a strong individual defender that can't shoot for ****. We actually have one right now.
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Post#52 » by GimmeDat » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:01 am

I'm speaking on the spur of the moment here, but I think Poku might be worth considering at 7...
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Post#53 » by Grodoboldo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:17 am

GimmeDat wrote:I'm speaking on the spur of the moment here, but I think Poku might be worth considering at 7...


He sure is intriguing, but the footage I found on him is so limited (didn't look that hard, to be honest) and the competition he played against seemed pretty poor, so it's hard to really gauge his value.
The tools are definitely there, though.
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Post#54 » by pduh01 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:40 am

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I will be please with the outcome Wiseman is my number 2 on my draft board
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Post#55 » by VolumePoster » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:45 am

I really don’t see the appeal of Okoro at 7. His defense is tauter as his calling card, but is it better than Vassel, an excellent shooter with better size? I understand he’s a good athlete, but among NBA wings I don’t think he really stands out in that regard. Also get the sense he will measure about 6’5. He’s probably the player that would excite me the least.
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Post#56 » by Bullflip » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:49 am

I like Nesmith if we are at 7. Dude is gonna be like Ray Allen
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Post#57 » by Grodoboldo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:05 am

Bullflip wrote:I like Nesmith if we are at 7. Dude is gonna be like Ray Allen


Not gonna lie, I'd probably try to trade Lauri for the PHX's pick to snag him.
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Post#58 » by Repeat 3-peat » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:20 am

If Nesmith works on his handle he's going to be a great scorer.
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Post#59 » by Andi Obst » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:26 am

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Oh boy...what a mock. Hate a few picks here, but Precious going at 8 is just super ridiculous.
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Post#60 » by JohnnyTapwater » Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:20 am

Yeah. Okoro would be the only pick I'd be pretty upside about.

...I would be open to be wrong about him, but nah.

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