NBA Trade Thread

[sco]

Would Portland do a Sato + Young for Ariza + Hood (assuming both are dead money by now, please correct me if I'm wrong) + filler + their 2020 1st rounder?

They upgrade their guard/wing rotation (which sure could use some defense and 3 point shooting), their PF rotation (also much needed) and shed dead money for a mid-late pick

We get a pick for guys not really in our future.

Bulls would do that trade in heartbeat. Portland wouldn’t though. Sato has no value.At this point you would probably have to attach a pick to get rid of Sato.

I think the bad Bulls coaching situation, actually helps guys' trade value who showed skill elsewhere. I think, if the FO wanted to, they could unload either/both Sato/Thad without "paying" to have someone take them.

[MrFortune3]

Would Portland do a Sato + Young for Ariza + Hood (assuming both are dead money by now, please correct me if I'm wrong) + filler + their 2020 1st rounder?

They upgrade their guard/wing rotation (which sure could use some defense and 3 point shooting), their PF rotation (also much needed) and shed dead money for a mid-late pick

We get a pick for guys not really in our future.

Bulls would do that trade in heartbeat. Portland wouldn’t though. Sato has no value.At this point you would probably have to attach a pick to get rid of Sato.

I think the bad Bulls coaching situation, actually helps guys' trade value who showed skill elsewhere. I think, if the FO wanted to, they could unload either/both Sato/Thad without "paying" to have someone take them.

Definitely need to unload Sato. Young needs to play his normal role or be moved, we signed him and then had him play a completely different role than he thrives in, which made no damn sense.

[sco]

Bulls would do that trade in heartbeat. Portland wouldn’t though. Sato has no value.At this point you would probably have to attach a pick to get rid of Sato.

I think the bad Bulls coaching situation, actually helps guys' trade value who showed skill elsewhere. I think, if the FO wanted to, they could unload either/both Sato/Thad without "paying" to have someone take them.

Definitely need to unload Sato. Young needs to play his normal role or be moved, we signed him and then had him play a completely different role than he thrives in, which made no damn sense.

I have no problem moving Sato, but honestly, I can see him being useful depending on draft for depth. I could definitely needing him to play back-up minutes at one of the wing positions. Moving him, like moving Felicio, doesn't create any cap space, given our situation, it just frees up a slot (which has value) for a vet min player.

[MrFortune3]

I think the bad Bulls coaching situation, actually helps guys' trade value who showed skill elsewhere. I think, if the FO wanted to, they could unload either/both Sato/Thad without "paying" to have someone take them.

Definitely need to unload Sato. Young needs to play his normal role or be moved, we signed him and then had him play a completely different role than he thrives in, which made no damn sense.

I have no problem moving Sato, but honestly, I can see him being useful depending on draft for depth. I could definitely needing him to play back-up minutes at one of the wing positions. Moving him, like moving Felicio, doesn't create any cap space, given our situation, it just frees up a slot (which has value) for a vet min player.

I'm not a fan of Sato, wasn't a fan of his signing and I'd rather see young players getting minutes and developing.

[wonderboy2]

I’ve been on this board along time and I usually don’t support trading players. I rarely ever post trade ideas for a Chicago bull players because I feel like fans should support there players. But this might come as a surprise to many on this board but I don’t want want Sato on the bulls and he needs to be traded. I wonder if he we could get anything of value for him. It probably would be benificial if the bulls just dump him and pick a vet minimum player.

[Kazuya10]

Just for **** and giggles..

What about Sato, Young, Felicio and a SRP for DeRozen and Belinelli?


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[Ccwatercraft]

Would Portland do a Sato + Young for Ariza + Hood (assuming both are dead money by now, please correct me if I'm wrong) + filler + their 2020 1st rounder?

They upgrade their guard/wing rotation (which sure could use some defense and 3 point shooting), their PF rotation (also much needed) and shed dead money for a mid-late pick

We get a pick for guys not really in our future.

Bulls would do that trade in heartbeat. Portland wouldn’t though. Sato has no value.At this point you would probably have to attach a pick to get rid of Sato.

I think the bad Bulls coaching situation, actually helps guys' trade value who showed skill elsewhere. I think, if the FO wanted to, they could unload either/both Sato/Thad without "paying" to have someone take them.

Agree. These guys have value still. Granted not lots of it right now and I assume sato would get more interest. So if you take back bad salaries they are certainly tradable for some compensation , if not, just keep them.

I still like sato especially I think hes capable of contributing and young isnt the same young anymore but has a chance to redeem himself, hes not physically over a cliff. I just want to see that good post game return. I know its there, and I remember it being very good.

[wonderboy2]

Just for **** and giggles..

What about Sato, Young, Felicio and a SRP for DeRozen and Belinelli?


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Sato have no value. Belinelli right now by himself is better than Sato. I really can’t think of a worse starting point guard in the NBA then Tomas “Mr. Invisible” Satoranski.

[Kazuya10]

Just for **** and giggles..

What about Sato, Young, Felicio and a SRP for DeRozen and Belinelli?

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Sato have no value. Belinelli right now by himself is better than Sato. I really can’t think of a worse starting point guard in the NBA then Tomas “Mr. Invisible” Satoranski.

Come.. he is not that bad. i think you will see a differnent Sato under a competent head coach i think you will see a return at least in the most part to Wizard Sato.

Besides that, your missing the crux of the trade. Unless Pop retires, DD will stifle under him as Pop and the sturs are a more system team.

Young and Sato will fit in well to the spurs. Felicio is salary filler and the SRP is gravey

[ChettheJet]

It was obvious that Satoransky didn't deliver as advertised. He played every game and I will always have trouble evaluating how guys played this year because even those that did play most of they year had a revolving lineup around them. While Dunn and Harrison were paying the SF nothing was good, White was coming off the bench all year and showed at the end he had become more than capable of starting. Porter and Hutchison would have made a big difference as a pair or even if just one of them had played all year, Carter and Gafford went down and it took that to get Felicio off the bench, which tells you how good he is. Markkanen had his issues. And to compensate for all that I think Lavine just took the ball in his hands more than he should have and Satoransky got left hanging around.

Go over to the Cam Payne thread, a couple of good games and it's Should we have kept him? If the Bulls get something of value in return I'm for trading Satoransky otherwise like everybody else, I'd like to see him play 20-30 games with the full roster healthy to see what kind of team they have before just dealing to change the names.

[sco]

If Indy loses early in the playoffs, I wonder if we can pry Turner (who hasn't been a good fit next to Sabonis) away for a deal including Lauri, Sato and WCJ?

[Andi Obst]

If Indy loses early in the playoffs, I wonder if we can pry Turner (who hasn't been a good fit next to Sabonis) away for a deal including Lauri, Sato and WCJ?

No thanks. Turner is a better rim protector than WCJ, but also a significantly worse rebounder. He's better offensively right now, but I'd rather let WCJ improve on his rookie deal than pay a player who isn't really a difference maker 20 mil a year. Generally, I'm not throwing away any flexibility we have for Myles Turner.

[MrSparkle]

If Indy loses early in the playoffs, I wonder if we can pry Turner (who hasn't been a good fit next to Sabonis) away for a deal including Lauri, Sato and WCJ?

I thought he was a good pick on his rookie deal, but he really hasn't developed much. His playoff performances have been consistently worse than regular season. Clanks open shots. IMO I'd rather roll the dice with WCJ.

[TheSuzerain]

It was obvious that Satoransky didn't deliver as advertised. He played every game and I will always have trouble evaluating how guys played this year because even those that did play most of they year had a revolving lineup around them. While Dunn and Harrison were paying the SF nothing was good, White was coming off the bench all year and showed at the end he had become more than capable of starting. Porter and Hutchison would have made a big difference as a pair or even if just one of them had played all year, Carter and Gafford went down and it took that to get Felicio off the bench, which tells you how good he is. Markkanen had his issues. And to compensate for all that I think Lavine just took the ball in his hands more than he should have and Satoransky got left hanging around.

Go over to the Cam Payne thread, a couple of good games and it's Should we have kept him? If the Bulls get something of value in return I'm for trading Satoransky otherwise like everybody else, I'd like to see him play 20-30 games with the full roster healthy to see what kind of team they have before just dealing to change the names.

My opinion on Sato's hasn't changed one bit based on his time with the Bulls. He's a solid complementary piece when he plays next to an actual NBA core (e.g. prime Wall/Beal).

But you put him on a team without an actual core of talent, he'll look out of place. He still has value to teams that have a talented core.

It's very clear that GarPax intended to make the playoffs this year, thus the Thad/Sato signings. One final humiliation for our friends Gar and Pax before their departure.

[drosereturn]

It was obvious that Satoransky didn't deliver as advertised.

At this point, you need to wonder why these successful veterans failed only when they became a Bull.
This guys is leader at his own national team playing at a equal level to Kemba, so I dont buy he regressed.
I did see him not prepared for a huge 25 usg role but this has to do more with a horrible roster where it doesnt have anything close to Washingtons Wall/Beal 1-2 punch. Hes just not a type of player that wants huge usage bc it will be a detriment to the team.

A lot of the posters here like to point out Europeans like Sato, Lauri play soft/passive but that just not true. All they are doing is playing fundamental Euro league passing style which Luka perfected. A lot of the American players Bulls have lack these skills.

[MrSparkle]

Fact is that Zach Lavine is not a superstar. If point/creation-skills were scaled 1-10, Zach gets a 1. If offensive play-calling was scaled 1-10, Boylen got a 1.

So yeah, I agree to the sentiment that Sato and Lauri can do better. Not tremendously better, but better shooting percentages for sure.

[TheSuzerain]

Sato actually has proven game and can play good hopes in a limited role as the 4th/5th man in a lineup.

Lauri is more concerning in any role because he seems like a pretty big defensive liability at the 4 or 5. I would very much sell Lauri if we can get any sort of reasonable offer.

[Chi town]

Sato actually has proven game and can play good hopes in a limited role as the 4th/5th man in a lineup.

Lauri is more concerning in any role because he seems like a pretty big defensive liability at the 4 or 5. I would very much sell Lauri if we can get any sort of reasonable offer.

Why not Wendell? Keep Gafford on the cheap sign a vet like Marc Gasol or RoLo. WCJ wants to play PF. No thanaks. Doesn't shoot 3s.

I don't think Van Fleet is going anywhere. Raps have big money coming off the books in Gasol and Ibaka and following year with Lowry. They want to build around Siakam. If they were willing to part with Van Fleet I'd S&T Otto and WCJ for him.

[wonderboy2]

I’m telling you Sato is one of the worst starting pgs I’ve ever seen. Dude is **** horrible. A pass first of that can’t pass. He had so many wide open 3s this year that he refused to shoot or couldn’t knock down. His man defense is is dog ****. Sato was probably the bulls worst perimeter defender last year. Lavine had to take the tougher perimeter threats when Dunn was injured. Sato also had no blow by ability. Guards started to full-court press him towards the end of the season because they did not respect his handle or blow by ability. Sato passed up so many wide open shots last year. He played like a scared bitch most of last season. Just a **** horrible player.

[wonderboy2]

There was no worst starting PG in the league last year than Sato. Sato on a good team would not even see the floor. I can’t think of one starting pg that he’s better than. Hell majority of the back up point guards are better than him. I hope the bulls find a trade for him. Give me Dunn any day of the week over Sato. If you go to their team boards and ask about Sato, nobody wants him. Dude sucks ass.