2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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If Ibaka wants over $20 million what about Paul Milsap? He developed a reliable 3pt shot and this year shot 44%! I think he's a better passer than Serge and we only need him to play 24-26 mpg.

Re-sign Marc for the MLE for 3 years same as Milsap!

PG Lowry - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Watson
PF Siakam - Milsap - OG
C Gasol - Milsap - Boucher/#28

I love Paul Milsap and agree with MPJ in Denver he's going to be moving on, but I doubt he accepts a bench role here. Even at his age I feel like he can still find a starting job somewhere.

He's going to be 36 in February. If we give him the 4 year MLE to come off the bench to ring chase, he should take it. Actually maybe 3 year MLE. Over the last 3 seasons in Denver his minutes have gone down each year to 24 mpg. We can give him 24-26 if he'll come off the bench.

If the Raptors win back to back with their young core, it will set themselves up as a legit ring-chasing destination. People will see that Nurse is truly the best coach in the league. Also they will see that they will get to earn touches, without "superstar" ballhogs.

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If Ibaka wants over $20 million what about Paul Milsap? He developed a reliable 3pt shot and this year shot 44%! I think he's a better passer than Serge and we only need him to play 24-26 mpg.

Re-sign Marc for the MLE for 3 years same as Milsap!

PG Lowry - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Watson
PF Siakam - Milsap - OG
C Gasol - Milsap - Boucher/#28

I love Paul Milsap and agree with MPJ in Denver he's going to be moving on, but I doubt he accepts a bench role here. Even at his age I feel like he can still find a starting job somewhere.

He's going to be 36 in February. If we give him the 4 year MLE to come off the bench to ring chase, he should take it. Actually maybe 3 year MLE. Over the last 3 seasons in Denver his minutes have gone down each year to 24 mpg. We can give him 24-26 if he'll come off the bench.

If the Raptors win back to back with their young core, it will set themselves up as a legit ring-chasing destination. People will see that Nurse is truly the best coach in the league. Also they will see that they will get to earn touches, without "superstar" ballhogs.

Can we even give him that many minutes? He's only 6'7 so he can only play the 5 in very specific match ups. Pascal is gonna get 30 mpg at the minimum. So unless we start using Pascal as a 3 more often, or a 5 more often (both of which I don't think are ideal for him) I struggle to see how we offer him more than 16-18 mpg. We should be looking at PF with a smaller role expectation.

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Should they give him RHJ's roster spot next year? If they draft Reed, it'll work out. I think he'd at least be the beefy complement to Boucher.

I really want Nerlens Noel for the full MLE for 4 years with max raises to try and pry him away from OKC. Getting him for his prime years. He just doesn't shoot 3's but would cost less than half of what Serge might get.

Noel would be such a good get. Gives us a good lob threat and rim protector who would really help shore up our rebounding. Brings a ton of energy from what I've seen this year. Not shooting threes might suck a tad as being able to go 5 out is nice, but obviously a non-shooter at the 5 is waaaaaay easier to work around than a non-shooter at any other position. He can do everything Boucher does way better, and can actually play against every team.

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Should they give him RHJ's roster spot next year? If they draft Reed, it'll work out. I think he'd at least be the beefy complement to Boucher.

I really want Nerlens Noel for the full MLE for 4 years with max raises to try and pry him away from OKC. Getting him for his prime years. He just doesn't shoot 3's but would cost less than half of what Serge might get.

Noel would be such a good get. Gives us a good lob threat and rim protector who would really help shore up our rebounding. Brings a ton of energy from what I've seen this year. Not shooting threes might suck a tad as being able to go 5 out is nice, but obviously a non-shooter at the 5 is waaaaaay easier to work around than a non-shooter at any other position. He can do everything Boucher does way better, and can actually play against every team.

I'd love to get Noel. He's an elite defender, and that's not even talking about his shot blocking. His ability to guard on the peremiter for a big is elite. He's an underrated passer as well. If he can be taught to pick and pop a three, or the corner three (his 18 footer looks pretty good already), we might really have something.

He plays only 18.5 minutes per game. If he played Ibaka's 27 minutes he could average: 10.8 points 7.2 rebounds 2.2 blocks 1.5 steals. I trust Nurse to utilize him in our system to perfection. I can just imagine the fits all that length of Noel, Siakam, and OG would cause on defense. Plus we'd have some rim protection, which we really haven't had lately.

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I wonder if we'll sign and trade VanVleet to some team? If it's clear he's leaving to get 100M+ somewhere then turning him into a 1 year stopgap player and a long term asset becomes intriguing.

For a one year player so we keep 2021 space, like if the Bulls want to give FVV 120M over 4 years because they're a **** mess would we take Otto Porter JR for one year to match the Celtics wing size and have a Gasol-Siakam-PorterJr-OG-Lowry lineup? Or since Carlisle seems best at using small tough guards, maybe Dallas offers us Hardaway JR and his final year along with a 1st rounder to get VanVleet locked in as their #3 guy with Doncic and Porzingis as they go for titles over the next 4 years.

Or for a young player we like that his team has soured on, like if we love Jarrett Culver and the T-Wolves realize they're about to lose 50 against and need toughness and shooting and want to go with a VanVleet-Russell-Beasley-Forward-Towns lineup and hope they can be this year's 3 guard success team, maybe we get James Johnson's expiring and Culver and we just deal James Johnson and a pick at the deadline for a rotation expiring guy.

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Um, how highly would Masai value the top draft picks in this draft. Would they attract a top FA in 2021?

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Um, how highly would Masai value the top draft picks in this draft. Would they attract a top FA in 2021?

garbage trade no thanks.

Nobody in this draft is good enough to give up Pascal for

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I wonder if we'll sign and trade VanVleet to some team? If it's clear he's leaving to get 100M+ somewhere then turning him into a 1 year stopgap player and a long term asset becomes intriguing.

For a one year player so we keep 2021 space, like if the Bulls want to give FVV 120M over 4 years because they're a **** mess would we take Otto Porter JR for one year to match the Celtics wing size and have a Gasol-Siakam-PorterJr-OG-Lowry lineup? Or since Carlisle seems best at using small tough guards, maybe Dallas offers us Hardaway JR and his final year along with a 1st rounder to get VanVleet locked in as their #3 guy with Doncic and Porzingis as they go for titles over the next 4 years.

Or for a young player we like that his team has soured on, like if we love Jarrett Culver and the T-Wolves realize they're about to lose 50 against and need toughness and shooting and want to go with a VanVleet-Russell-Beasley-Forward-Towns lineup and hope they can be this year's 3 guard success team, maybe we get James Johnson's expiring and Culver and we just deal James Johnson and a pick at the deadline for a rotation expiring guy.

FVV read this. He stay!

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https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/kings/how-vlade-divacs-departure-impacts-kings-upcoming-critical-offseason

Like Bogdanovic, Divac is one of Bjelica’s Serbian heroes. He signed a three-year deal in Sacramento after Divac and Peja Stojakovic came calling.

Now the Kings have the choice: Either pick up Bjelica's $7.2 million contract for next season or walk away owing no guaranteed money. Bjelica has been serviceable for the Kings, and he stepped in for long stretches when Marvin Bagley got injured, but his time in Sacramento might be coming to an end.

Prediction: With Harrison Barnes ready to play more four and Jabari Parker likely to pick up his player option at $6.5 million, it’s hard to see where Bjelica fits, especially if Bagley is healthy. Just a guess, but the Kings likely will use the $7.2 million elsewhere this offseason, especially with Divac out of the picture.

This is the most Sacramento Kings thing to do. Bjelica was really effective when he had the ball and running plays.

If Kings do indeed drop him, I'd definitely try and scoop him up (or Giles). A playmaking big is something we'll badly need if we lose Gasol.

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Free Agents:

- Marc
- Fred
- Serge
- RHJ
- Boucher
- Miller
- Johnson
- Brissett

Serge, RHJ, Boucher are likely gone. Fred resigned at 20-22 million and Marc takes a 2-3 year MLE.

I wouldnt be shocked if we brought back Miller and Brissett tbh. Both are restricted and there doesnt seem to be a market for him. I am actually a big believer in Miller and the guy has learned our system the past few years. Raps really like him too.

So now you have a hole to fill at the 4/5.... so some targets:

Baynes
Millsapp
Harry Giles
Derrick Favours

I think you also have to consider what to do with Norm and how that impacts an OG rookie extension plus big money to Pascal and Fred.

Disclaimer: I DONT THINK GIANNIS LEAVES. As a result, I am not all that focused on trying to preserve max cap space for 2021.

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Wonder what the Rockets interest level in Serge Ibaka is?

If we could sign and trade for the last year of PJ Tucker that be an awesome fit for our bench while preserving 21 cap.

Lineup Could look like
Lowry/Fred/OG/Pascal/Marc
TD/Matt/Norm/Tucker/ x
Stanley/ Raptors 1rd pick/ Dewan/

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Hers a list of options for Free-agent bench guys

Forward

RHJ
MKG
Mavin Williams
Gary Clark
Solomon Hill
Mo Harkless
Andre Roberson
Thabo Sefolosha
Melo
Noah Vonleh
Semi Ojeleye
Jakkar Sampson
Derrick Jones

C

Ibaka
Gasol
Tristan Thompson
Jakob
Boucher
Thon Maker
Harry Giles
Bobby Portis
Nerlens Noel
Derrick Favors
Hassan Whiteside
Mason Plumlee
Myers Leonard
Aron Baynes

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Free Agents:

- Marc
- Fred
- Serge
- RHJ
- Boucher
- Miller
- Johnson
- Brissett

Serge, RHJ, Boucher are likely gone. Fred resigned at 20-22 million and Marc takes a 2-3 year MLE.

I wouldnt be shocked if we brought back Miller and Brissett tbh. Both are restricted and there doesnt seem to be a market for him. I am actually a big believer in Miller and the guy has learned our system the past few years. Raps really like him too.

So now you have a hole to fill at the 4/5.... so some targets:

Baynes
Millsapp
Harry Giles
Derrick Favours

I think you also have to consider what to do with Norm and how that impacts an OG rookie extension plus big money to Pascal and Fred.

Disclaimer: I DONT THINK GIANNIS LEAVES. As a result, I am not all that focused on trying to preserve max cap space for 2021.

Miller is so done he can't even play ahead of Stanley. Watson takes Miller's roster spot.

I wouldn't mind splitting the MLE by throwing $4 million at Gary Clark (team option 2nd year) and $6 million at a backup C like Baynes (would complement Boucher). Maybe Alex Len would be better? I'd be cool with giving Boucher $4 million too.

Maybe draft Tyler Bey at #29?

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Bey
PF Siakam - Boucher - Clark
C Marc - Len - Boucher

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Hers a list of options for Free-agent bench guys

Forward

RHJ
MKG
Mavin Williams
Gary Clark
Solomon Hill
Mo Harkless
Andre Roberson
Thabo Sefolosha
Melo
Noah Vonleh
Semi Ojeleye
Jakkar Sampson
Derrick Jones

C

Ibaka
Gasol
Tristan Thompson
Jakob
Boucher
Thon Maker
Harry Giles
Bobby Portis
Nerlens Noel
Derrick Favors
Hassan Whiteside
Mason Plumlee
Myers Leonard
Aron Baynes

All guys worth targeting imo.

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Free Agents:

- Marc
- Fred
- Serge
- RHJ
- Boucher
- Miller
- Johnson
- Brissett

Serge, RHJ, Boucher are likely gone. Fred resigned at 20-22 million and Marc takes a 2-3 year MLE.

I wouldnt be shocked if we brought back Miller and Brissett tbh. Both are restricted and there doesnt seem to be a market for him. I am actually a big believer in Miller and the guy has learned our system the past few years. Raps really like him too.

So now you have a hole to fill at the 4/5.... so some targets:

Baynes
Millsapp
Harry Giles
Derrick Favours

I think you also have to consider what to do with Norm and how that impacts an OG rookie extension plus big money to Pascal and Fred.

Disclaimer: I DONT THINK GIANNIS LEAVES. As a result, I am not all that focused on trying to preserve max cap space for 2021.

Miller is so done he can't even play ahead of Stanley. Watson takes Miller's roster spot.

I wouldn't mind splitting the MLE by throwing $4 million at Gary Clark (team option 2nd year) and $6 million at a backup C like Baynes (would complement Boucher). Maybe Alex Len would be better? I'd be cool with giving Boucher $4 million too.

Maybe draft Tyler Bey at #29?

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Powell - Thomas
SF OG - Powell - Bey
PF Siakam - Boucher - Clark
C Marc - Len - Boucher

I think Bey gets taken and I would much rather grab Baynes, Giles, Favors, Plumlee over a guy like Len. I like the Gary Clark signing if he could be had. Very under the radar guy.

Love the Bey pick but I am not sure he is around tbh. Honestly I really want Tillman in the first round. That is the kind of 5 that fits us PERFECTLY

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Um, how highly would Masai value the top draft picks in this draft. Would they attract a top FA in 2021?

garbage trade no thanks.

Nobody in this draft is good enough to give up Pascal for

I dunno man the 1st overall pick seem intriguing actually but I don't want Wiggins either. We need to fill in the C position with young blood with Ibaka & Gasol on the decline

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Um, how highly would Masai value the top draft picks in this draft. Would they attract a top FA in 2021?

garbage trade no thanks.

Nobody in this draft is good enough to give up Pascal for

I dunno man the 1st overall pick seem intriguing actually but I don't want Wiggins either. We need to fill in the C position with young blood with Ibaka & Gasol on the decline

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2 problems with this Imo

1) Wiseman is closer to Whiteside than a franchise player. I don’t expect anyone in this draft to be more than a mediocre all star type. There’s a reason nobody wants that pick or why nobody wanted Drummond

2) Trading all nba forward for any non all timer center probably just makes your team worse now and long term.

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Does anyone think (don't kill me) Ben Simmons may fit what we do as a team (pass, defend, handle) better than Pascal? Obviously Ben"s value is in the crapper right now compared to Siakam so other pieces would have to be involved, but could something happen here?

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Does anyone think (don't kill me) Ben Simmons may fit what we do as a team (pass, defend, handle) better than Pascal? Obviously Ben"s value is in the crapper right now compared to Siakam so other pieces would have to be involved, but could something happen here?

you forgot, you need to be able to shoot as well. Terrible fit