2020 Pre-Draft Discussion

[CuseMayne]

If we don't move up I don't care about this class, it makes no difference where we draft

Wiseman is the only player than can start for us next season, I see too much Tyreke in Edwards and Ball is years away

100% on the nose. Is there any scenario where, if we get like pick 5-8, we decide to make a trade with it...? Feels like the pick wouldn't necessarily be worth what it would usually be worth in years past, due to the seemingly weak draft class, but if we find a suitable trade partner I really wouldn't mind it. It would definitely suck if we traded away a rookie who becomes a perennial All-Star, so I'm hoping at the end of the day Kupchak arrives at the best decision possible moving forward.

[BigSlam]

If we drafted them, what would we need the prospect to max out at for us to FINALLY hit on a draft pick and for them to turn us around?

Ball = Kidd
Edwards = Wade
Wiseman = Robinson
Hayes = Roy
Haliburton = Nash
Toppin = Stoudemire
Okongwu = Howard

????


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[bravor]

If the Oladipo comparison are legit for Edwards, i assume that would be the best possible outcome for this franchise

Okongwu becoming a R. Wallace 2.0 could be more than welcome as well and he is certainly the most reachable at this point.

If Tillman could be Millsap 2.0 (even a light version), that would be a major asset/fit as well.

I don't think any other prospect would fit like all of those, knowing the future 'star' (stars, hopefully..) should be in 2021-2023 drafts (or beyond).

[LofJ]

I want Edwards or Hayes with our 1st round pick. If we don't move up they'll both be gone by the time we pick. I think everyone else in the mid to late lottery project as role players other than a few of the guards like Lewis and maybe Maxey. Then there are guys who could be more later in the draft like Pokusevski, but they are years away from being ready.

A dream offseason would be to finally move up where we take Edwards or Hayes, sign Harry Giles, find another rotation player with the 32nd pick, and add a future pick by trading for a good locker room player on a bloated contract like Horford.

[316Hornets]

I'm thinking Devin Vassell is being underrated pretty big. Look at what Brandon Clarke is doing this year. Vassell has higher upside and is younger than Clarke was. He shot almost 42% from 3, averaged a block and steal a game, and has 6'10” wingspan. His handle isn't phenomenal but if there was ever a project I'd take a shot at, it'd be the guy with arguably playing the best defense in college bball.

[bravor]

For me it makes no sense to pick a wing (pure wing, i dont mean sg or combo guards here) this year with the highest pick. Next year, plenty of potential game changing wings, incl. of course Cunningham.
And Hornets already have Martin as a reliable role player there.

Anyway, it depends about the lottery. If Hornets can land a top3 pick this year, there are way better choices than him, especially if the main reasoning behind is to get the next Kawhi (or Isaac etc). I bet someone will talk about some n2 pick at some point

[316Hornets]

For me it makes no sense to pick a wing (pure wing, i dont mean sg or combo guards here) this year with the highest pick. Next year, plenty of potential game changing wings, incl. of course Cunningham.
And Hornets already have Martin as a reliable role player there.

Anyway, it depends about the lottery. If Hornets can land a top3 pick this year, there are way better choices than him, especially if the main reasoning behind is to get the next Kawhi (or Isaac etc). I bet someone will talk about some n2 pick at some point

Could always trade Miles for whatever value he has. Just to clarify, Vassell is rated about pick #15. I think he's probably the 7th best pick.

In order:
James Wiseman
Lamelo Ball
Anthony Edwards
Killian Hayes


Tyrese Haliburton
Cole Anthony
Devin Vassell

Not much difference in 5-7.

[BeesWax]

If we drafted them, what would we need the prospect to max out at for us to FINALLY hit on a draft pick and for them to turn us around?

Ball = Kidd
Edwards = Wade
Wiseman = Robinson
Hayes = Roy
Haliburton = Nash
Toppin = Stoudemire
Okongwu = Howard

????


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I would say the goal for Wiseman would be Garnett. He has more range already than Robinson and hopefully could have more versatility. Like the Haliburton and Nash goal though.

[BigSlam]

If we drafted them, what would we need the prospect to max out at for us to FINALLY hit on a draft pick and for them to turn us around?

Ball = Kidd
Edwards = Wade
Wiseman = Robinson
Hayes = Roy
Haliburton = Nash
Toppin = Stoudemire
Okongwu = Howard

????


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I would say the goal for Wiseman would be Garnett. He has more range already than Robinson and hopefully could have more versatility. Like the Haliburton and Nash goal though.

Does Wideman have the killer/aggressive streak that made Garnett Garnett though?

I guess my point was more - just how good to we need our draft pick to be in order to move the needle for us as a franchise?


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[LofJ]

To move the needle and become something more than mediocre the team needs an alpha dog with a burning desire to win. So someone like Kobe, Wade, KG, Butler, etc. that can be a number one option AND pushes his teammates to play up to their abilities.

[Worst_to_First]

Good luck in the lottery tomorrow guys!

Will be tempted to become a Hornets fan if you guys end up with Wiseman. I think he is the real deal.

[driveandkick]

I’ll gladly move down three picks tomorrow for lottery luck next year instead. I’m sure there is a star player or two in this draft. But I’m having a difficult time pinpointing who that may be

[UNCNYC]

I’ll gladly move down three picks tomorrow for lottery luck next year instead. I’m sure there is a star player or two in this draft. But I’m having a difficult time pinpointing who that may be

I think some potential stars in this draft are Killian Hayes, Devon Dotson and Malichi Flynn.

[LofJ]

Anyone else ready to be disappointed again?

It's unreal that the team has never once moved up in the lottery since the league returned to Charlotte. Don't get me wrong though I'm glad that we actually got another team unlike Seattle, but still we are definitely due a lucky bounce.

[BigSlam]

Anyone else ready to be disappointed again?

It's unreal that the team has never once moved up in the lottery since the league returned to Charlotte. Don't get me wrong though I'm glad that we actually got another team unlike Seattle, but still we are definitely due a lucky bounce.

What’s going to be more disappointing:

Moving down 1 spot

Or

Moving up to the #1 spot in a year there is no clear cut top prospect


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[LofJ]

Anyone else ready to be disappointed again?

It's unreal that the team has never once moved up in the lottery since the league returned to Charlotte. Don't get me wrong though I'm glad that we actually got another team unlike Seattle, but still we are definitely due a lucky bounce.

What’s going to be more disappointing:

Moving down 1 spot

Or

Moving up to the #1 spot in a year there is no clear cut top prospect


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It's always better to have options, moving up would provide that. I also think it's important to consider that this wasn't a normal year - no tournament games were played and the top prospect in the class barely played at all. I don't think people would be as down on this draft class if they had played a full season.

[HornetJail]

Anyone else ready to be disappointed again?

It's unreal that the team has never once moved up in the lottery since the league returned to Charlotte. Don't get me wrong though I'm glad that we actually got another team unlike Seattle, but still we are definitely due a lucky bounce.

What’s going to be more disappointing:

Moving down 1 spot

Or

Moving up to the #1 spot in a year there is no clear cut top prospect


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I would be quite happy with Wiseman or Edwards. This isn't a 2013 draft at the top.

Sure there's no Zion or anything but I'm way more confident in either of those players than I was in any of the top 2013 guys.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Assuming the Hornets don't move up, they'll be picking in the 8-12 range. Since the 2007 draft, Charlotte has picked in the range 9 out of 13 possible times. The exceptions:

2010: traded pick
2012: pick 2 (MKG)
2013: pick 4 (Zeller)
2016: traded pick

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[BeesWax]

If we drafted them, what would we need the prospect to max out at for us to FINALLY hit on a draft pick and for them to turn us around?

Ball = Kidd
Edwards = Wade
Wiseman = Robinson
Hayes = Roy
Haliburton = Nash
Toppin = Stoudemire
Okongwu = Howard

????


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I would say the goal for Wiseman would be Garnett. He has more range already than Robinson and hopefully could have more versatility. Like the Haliburton and Nash goal though.

Does Wideman have the killer/aggressive streak that made Garnett Garnett though?

I guess my point was more - just how good to we need our draft pick to be in order to move the needle for us as a franchise?


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I get that but I fear with the center being devalued a bit we need Wiseman to have more versatility. I don't know that he has that mean streak of a Garnett but I think if you want a star from a big that it the type of player we need style wise. If I went pure C from back in the day I might go Olajuwon more for his ability to switch on defense and score from facing up.

I understand the question and I am not sure. We need an alpha at some point in the near future to truly move the needle. I am not sure that guy is in this class.

[Rich4114]

I hate draft lottery night. It’s the annual “get hopeful but deep down you know some team that has already had a ton of luck and success will get get more” night.