2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I dont care what everyone says and I don't care about his flaws, i friggin love watching Kelly on our team.

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Yeah, clearly the most entertaining player on our team.

I've gone back and forth on it several times, but I think I've decided that unless a great deal comes our way this summer, we need to keep Kelly and make him our sixth man. He can be our go-to scorer when Book is out. Our on-ball defender when Mikal is out. Our stretch 4 when Cam is out.

It's our best chance to be the best team we can be next season. Based on what we saw in the bubble, we're close. Shockingly close. We don't need to go "all in" next season with earth-shattering moves and spending. Instead, we should keep this group together and see how far we can go. In a year, if Kelly doesn't want to be a perennial 6MOY contender for a contending team, we'll have a bunch of cap space, max appeal to free agents, and the ability to S&T Oubre (fwiw: may not be much considering how many teams will have space).

Also, because the roster will be pretty much full with a healthy Oubre back in the lineup, we can look to draft BPA without having to worry too much whether the player(s) we draft will be able to contribute next season.

....... So maybe, best case scenario is Hayes falling to us. In 4 years, when Hayes is up for an extension, Booker will be UFA. And if you don't think there's a real chance he jumps to the Lakers, I don't know what to tell you. He's given us every indication. And frankly, he'll have earned the right to choose his own adventure. I hope he stays, but if he opts to leave, it sure would be nice to have Killian ready to step into his shoes. Obviously not ideal, but that's the hand we have to play.

Fortunately, James Jones has proven worthy of our trust. Hopefully he's able to push this team over the top - and keep us on top for a long time.

[Slim Charless]

James Jones to represent the Suns for the lottery. I wonder why we aren't more creative with that.

Of all the bubble lotto teams, only Wiz and Kings have players representing it seems. Maybe with the short turnaround, most teams are electing to let the players get what time away they can? Maybe they asked and no one was interested because of COVID and JJ had to assume responsibilities himself. Who knows.

Dubs are sending Steph. Love to see him have that same look he had when Kyrie hit that shot in his face in game 7

[King4Day]

James Jones to represent the Suns for the lottery. I wonder why we aren't more creative with that.

Of all the bubble lotto teams, only Wiz and Kings have players representing it seems. Maybe with the short turnaround, most teams are electing to let the players get what time away they can? Maybe they asked and no one was interested because of COVID and JJ had to assume responsibilities himself. Who knows.

Dubs are sending Steph. Love to see him have that same look he had when Kyrie hit that shot in his face in game 7

Will he be chewing on his mouthpiece? I hope so. Love being grossed out watching tv <3

[Fo-Real]

I dont care what everyone says and I don't care about his flaws, i friggin love watching Kelly on our team.

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I have been singing it from the rafters buddy!!!

[Ghost of Kleine]

The Timeline Podcast (@TheTimelinePod) Tweeted:
#FRESH VIDEO - “Jerami Grant Free Agency Evaluation”

We tackled Christian Wood a few days ago, now it's time for another PF that Suns fans are talking about! Watch and share now:

https://t.co/4nV04pRzYK https://t.co/GQlA2967PB

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If Cam/ Oubre/ Saric will basically be all offense, Jerami Grant could be a really intriguing switchable defender alongside of them!

[WeekapaugGroove]

The Timeline Podcast (@TheTimelinePod) Tweeted:
#FRESH VIDEO - “Jerami Grant Free Agency Evaluation”

We tackled Christian Wood a few days ago, now it's time for another PF that Suns fans are talking about! Watch and share now:

https://t.co/4nV04pRzYK https://t.co/GQlA2967PB

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If Cam/ Oubre/ Saric will basically be all offense, Jerami Grant could be a really intriguing switchable defender alongside of them!

I've always really liked Grant and wanted the suns to trade for him when OKC was cutting salary. He's one of my favorite off-season targets if they do decide to dabble in spending big money. Would probably have to let Saric walk to make it happen.

Im not a big defensive advanced stats guy (feel they are flawed) but it interesting he never measures as good on those as I would think with the eye test.

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[Slim Charless]

The Timeline Podcast (@TheTimelinePod) Tweeted:
#FRESH VIDEO - “Jerami Grant Free Agency Evaluation”

We tackled Christian Wood a few days ago, now it's time for another PF that Suns fans are talking about! Watch and share now:

https://t.co/4nV04pRzYK https://t.co/GQlA2967PB

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If Cam/ Oubre/ Saric will basically be all offense, Jerami Grant could be a really intriguing switchable defender alongside of them!

I've always really liked Grant and wanted the suns to trade for him when OKC was cutting salary. He's one of my favorite off-season targets if they do decide to dabble in spending big money. Would probably have to let Saric walk to make it happen.

Im not a big defensive advanced stats guy (feel they are flawed) but it interesting he never measures as good on those as I would think with the eye test.

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I could get behind this idea. Grant is a good, versatile defender who can hit the open 3. He's been in the playoffs numerous times so he adds that to the locker room too. Solid vet who's still young enough to do something. Nugs might not keep him either

[Revived]

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we can't even have a week to shine before someone drags us back down through the mud... supposedly this happened 2 years ago but book was involved. not sure if I believe it. this girl is a known liar who makes up **** for clout. I'm sure most of you have seen this floating around on twitter.

Though if true that it happened during the bubble then please bring her back next season.

It happened in 2018 apparently. She said Booker was the first one. Oubre wasn’t on the Suns yet when this went down.

True or not, she’s giving out some details about it in the comments for this photo

Spoiler:

[Qwigglez]

I really can't see Sarver opening up his wallet to get someone like Christian Wood or Jerami Grant. If we bring back Saric for around $11 million and Jevon Carter for $2.5 million, keep Payne for his $2 million, Suns are sitting at a salary cap of $98.4 million and that doesn't include the 2020 draft pick (10th pick projected to be $4.5 million, more if we move up to the top 4). If we do bring back Baynes then we are operating over the cap and could potentially use the full MLE. Again, knowing Sarver, doubt we do that.

[spanishninja]

I really can't see Sarver opening up his wallet to get someone like Christian Wood or Jerami Grant. If we bring back Saric for around $11 million and Jevon Carter for $2.5 million, keep Payne for his $2 million, Suns are sitting at a salary cap of $98.4 million and that doesn't include the 2020 draft pick (10th pick projected to be $4.5 million, more if we move up to the top 4). If we do bring back Baynes then we are operating over the cap and could potentially use the full MLE. Again, knowing Sarver, doubt we do that.

He may change his tune this time, since there's a certain remodeled arena with luxury boxes to be sold.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I really can't see Sarver opening up his wallet to get someone like Christian Wood or Jerami Grant. If we bring back Saric for around $11 million and Jevon Carter for $2.5 million, keep Payne for his $2 million, Suns are sitting at a salary cap of $98.4 million and that doesn't include the 2020 draft pick (10th pick projected to be $4.5 million, more if we move up to the top 4). If we do bring back Baynes then we are operating over the cap and could potentially use the full MLE. Again, knowing Sarver, doubt we do that.

Grants going to cost more than the MLE. I'd guess he gets $15mil per or a little more.

The path would be to let both Saric and Baynes walk to get under the cap enough to fit Grant in. Other route would be to take back less salary in a oubre deal then bring one of Baynes or Saric back with Grant.

Though my guess is Dever lets milsap leave and tries to resign Grant this fall. But he's a UFA so can leave if he wants to.

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[Damkac]

Spoiler:

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we can't even have a week to shine before someone drags us back down through the mud... supposedly this happened 2 years ago but book was involved. not sure if I believe it. this girl is a known liar who makes up **** for clout. I'm sure most of you have seen this floating around on twitter.

Though if true that it happened during the bubble then please bring her back next season.

It happened in 2018 apparently. She said Booker was the first one. Oubre wasn’t on the Suns yet when this went down.

True or not, she’s giving out some details about it in the comments for this photo

[spoiler]

Yes I know "they are young, rich, famous athletes" so they are supposed to do stuff like this. But really wouldn't it be better to just find a girlfriend who is good looking (and this b*tch isn't pretty at all imo) and have decent personality than having fun with somebody who probably has every venereal disease possible?

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm not too worried about Sarvers cheapness this off-season simply because there's no realistic scenario where the suns could even spend more than like $10mil over the cap and that's not too far off from where they were this past season.

Where I worry about his cheapness is two years from now when Bridges and Ayton (and Rubio or his replacement) need new contracts and its a very real possibility they will need go into the tax to keep the core together. But that's a topic for another day.

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[Revived]

[spoiler]

Though if true that it happened during the bubble then please bring her back next season.

It happened in 2018 apparently. She said Booker was the first one. Oubre wasn’t on the Suns yet when this went down.

True or not, she’s giving out some details about it in the comments for this photo

Yes I know "they are young, rich, famous athletes" so they are supposed to do stuff like this. But really wouldn't it be better to just find a girlfriend who is good looking (and this b*tch isn't pretty at all imo) and have decent personality than having fun with somebody who probably has every venereal disease possible?

Well yeah some players don’t care about this type of lifestyle where their hooking up with someone a new IG model every day or whatever and then banging celebrities like Kardashians on the side.

Like I mentioned, Steph Curry, LeBron, Lillard, Westbrook, Giannis, Chris Paul etc are all like that where they’ve been with one partner for a long time and we rarely hear stories about how they were banging groupies or whatever.

On the other hand, guys like Harden, Simmons, Booker, Draymond, D’Angelo etc are more into the other lifestyle and all of them have probably gone through a Kardashian at one point or the other in their lifetime. All of them probably pay at least 10-15% of their salaries in child support as well.

I have a friend that’s a sports agent and it’s astonishing to hear some of the stories about professional athletes.

[King4Day]

The Trade: 2020 No. 1 overall pick, PG Ty Jerome, F/C Frank Kaminsky to Chicago Bulls for 2020 first-round pick and PF Lauri Markkanen

With an already set backcourt of Devin Booker and Ricky Rubio, the Phoenix Suns should be looking to fill other areas of need—something they can easily do by moving back in the draft.

With the Chicago Bulls projected to have the seventh overall pick, dropping six spots to pick up a new starting power forward in Lauri Markkanen would be worth it for Phoenix. At 23 years old, Markkanen has averaged 16.1 points and 7.6 rebounds per game while shooting 35.6 percent from three.

Chicago could use LaMelo Ball as its starting point guard with Coby White as a scoring 2-guard or select Anthony Edwards and move Zach LaVine to small forward full-time. Ty Jerome would give it a backup point guard, and Frank Kaminsky can provide floor spacing off the bench.

The Suns could still get a player such as Obi Toppin, Isaac Okoro or Devin Vassell around No. 7, which would help improve the team's low-post scoring or wing defense.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904053-1-trade-for-every-nba-lottery-team-if-it-wins-no-1-pick

I would do this in a heartbeat.
This would let us only need to re-sign Baynes (to backup Ayton), or Saric, and allow Markkanen to take the other role.
Then take Haliburton or someone with the Bulls pick.

[bwgood77]

[spoiler]

It happened in 2018 apparently. She said Booker was the first one. Oubre wasn’t on the Suns yet when this went down.

True or not, she’s giving out some details about it in the comments for this photo

Yes I know "they are young, rich, famous athletes" so they are supposed to do stuff like this. But really wouldn't it be better to just find a girlfriend who is good looking (and this b*tch isn't pretty at all imo) and have decent personality than having fun with somebody who probably has every venereal disease possible?

Well yeah some players don’t care about this type of lifestyle where their hooking up with someone a new IG model every day or whatever and then banging celebrities like Kardashians on the side.

Like I mentioned, Steph Curry, LeBron, Lillard, Westbrook, Giannis, Chris Paul etc are all like that where they’ve been with one partner for a long time and we rarely hear stories about how they were banging groupies or whatever.

On the other hand, guys like Harden, Simmons, Booker, Draymond, D’Angelo etc are more into the other lifestyle and all of them have probably gone through a Kardashian at one point or the other in their lifetime. All of them probably pay at least 10-15% of their salaries in child support as well.

I have a friend that’s a sports agent and it’s astonishing to hear some of the stories about professional athletes.

I don't know that we need to keep talking about this. I don't think this is THAT out of the ordinary, for many professional athletes/celebrities. Sure, some guys get married or have long time sweethearts from an early age, but many young guys like to party in their 20s...particularly guys who suddenly came into a lot of money, and I'm sure particularly ones with girls throwing themselves at them. Have you ever read about the Showtime Lakers parties at Magic's house?

Besides, this group is a group we can forget about...I keep thinking of that silhouette the BToTS or Suns twitter guys made about our awesome future core with Jackson, Chriss, Ulis, etc.....more like a mirage that we need to forget about.

[bwgood77]

The Trade: 2020 No. 1 overall pick, PG Ty Jerome, F/C Frank Kaminsky to Chicago Bulls for 2020 first-round pick and PF Lauri Markkanen

With an already set backcourt of Devin Booker and Ricky Rubio, the Phoenix Suns should be looking to fill other areas of need—something they can easily do by moving back in the draft.

With the Chicago Bulls projected to have the seventh overall pick, dropping six spots to pick up a new starting power forward in Lauri Markkanen would be worth it for Phoenix. At 23 years old, Markkanen has averaged 16.1 points and 7.6 rebounds per game while shooting 35.6 percent from three.

Chicago could use LaMelo Ball as its starting point guard with Coby White as a scoring 2-guard or select Anthony Edwards and move Zach LaVine to small forward full-time. Ty Jerome would give it a backup point guard, and Frank Kaminsky can provide floor spacing off the bench.

The Suns could still get a player such as Obi Toppin, Isaac Okoro or Devin Vassell around No. 7, which would help improve the team's low-post scoring or wing defense.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904053-1-trade-for-every-nba-lottery-team-if-it-wins-no-1-pick

I would do this in a heartbeat.
This would let us only need to re-sign Baynes (to backup Ayton), or Saric, and allow Markkanen to take the other role.
Then take Haliburton or someone with the Bulls pick.

Why in the world would Chicago do this? I suppose you could argue that they could really like Toppin or Deni as a replacement, which is a pretty good argument. Or they could be high on Ball or Edwards...not sure about Okongwu or Wiseman with Carter though.

Anyway, I think they want to keep Markkanen and that he is probably a large reason they got rid of Boylen. They also have a bunch of point guards, many that are not great pure or great PGs, so Ty Jerome is probably the last kind of guy they want, and who wants Kaminsky? Just for cap relief?

I don't even know how much I like Markkanen, even being an AZ guy. I mean, I DO like him, but as a fit with Ayton, not quite as much...in theory, if Ayton WAS a great defender who was ferocious inside when given space, AND could switch onto smaller guys when Lauri couldn't, it makes some sense, but there are too many question marks I think to pair them.

Now if it happened, I would still kind of be excited, because of the names and potential, but I'm not sure it's necessarily the best fit.

[Stark]

Just sayin guys.. You never know.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

The Trade: 2020 No. 1 overall pick, PG Ty Jerome, F/C Frank Kaminsky to Chicago Bulls for 2020 first-round pick and PF Lauri Markkanen

With an already set backcourt of Devin Booker and Ricky Rubio, the Phoenix Suns should be looking to fill other areas of need—something they can easily do by moving back in the draft.

With the Chicago Bulls projected to have the seventh overall pick, dropping six spots to pick up a new starting power forward in Lauri Markkanen would be worth it for Phoenix. At 23 years old, Markkanen has averaged 16.1 points and 7.6 rebounds per game while shooting 35.6 percent from three.

Chicago could use LaMelo Ball as its starting point guard with Coby White as a scoring 2-guard or select Anthony Edwards and move Zach LaVine to small forward full-time. Ty Jerome would give it a backup point guard, and Frank Kaminsky can provide floor spacing off the bench.

The Suns could still get a player such as Obi Toppin, Isaac Okoro or Devin Vassell around No. 7, which would help improve the team's low-post scoring or wing defense.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904053-1-trade-for-every-nba-lottery-team-if-it-wins-no-1-pick

I would do this in a heartbeat.
This would let us only need to re-sign Baynes (to backup Ayton), or Saric, and allow Markkanen to take the other role.
Then take Haliburton or someone with the Bulls pick.

Why in the world would Chicago do this? I suppose you could argue that they could really like Toppin or Deni as a replacement, which is a pretty good argument. Or they could be high on Ball or Edwards...not sure about Okongwu or Wiseman with Carter though.

Anyway, I think they want to keep Markkanen and that he is probably a large reason they got rid of Boylen. They also have a bunch of point guards, many that are not great pure or great PGs, so Ty Jerome is probably the last kind of guy they want, and who wants Kaminsky? Just for cap relief?

I don't even know how much I like Markkanen, even being an AZ guy. I mean, I DO like him, but as a fit with Ayton, not quite as much...in theory, if Ayton WAS a great defender who was ferocious inside when given space, AND could switch onto smaller guys when Lauri couldn't, it makes some sense, but there are too many question marks I think to pair them.

Now if it happened, I would still kind of be excited, because of the names and potential, but I'm not sure it's necessarily the best fit.

Yeah I expect the Bulls to see what Markannen can do in a new system. Now money would probably be the reason they might look to move him, he's probably going to want a big payday next summer and some team might throw a big contract at him as a RFA. Honestly his potential is more than his actual production at this point and that's the type of guy who can end up overpriced.

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[Fo-Real]

Spoiler:

Though if true that it happened during the bubble then please bring her back next season.

It happened in 2018 apparently. She said Booker was the first one. Oubre wasn’t on the Suns yet when this went down.

True or not, she’s giving out some details about it in the comments for this photo

[spoiler]

Yes I know "they are young, rich, famous athletes" so they are supposed to do stuff like this. But really wouldn't it be better to just find a girlfriend who is good looking (and this b*tch isn't pretty at all imo) and have decent personality than having fun with somebody who probably has every venereal disease possible?