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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1421 » by Oscirus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:20 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Oscirus wrote:Polls really wont matter till next week. Lets see how much of a bump that Trump gets coming out of the republican convention.


US couple who pointed guns at BLM protesters 'to speak at Republican convention'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53819020

This is their counter to John Kasich. This is fine

them and that kid who sued the news over his portrayal in protests. Regardless, they're gonna be coming with all kinds of lies for a week. They're going to tell so many and talk so much **** that its gonna be impossible to catch everything. Its gonna be nasty next week.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1422 » by GONYK » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:34 pm

Oscirus wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Oscirus wrote:Polls really wont matter till next week. Lets see how much of a bump that Trump gets coming out of the republican convention.


US couple who pointed guns at BLM protesters 'to speak at Republican convention'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53819020

This is their counter to John Kasich. This is fine

them and that kid who sued the news over his portrayal in protests. Regardless, they're gonna be coming with all kinds of lies for a week. They're going to tell so many and talk so much **** that its gonna be impossible to catch everything. Its gonna be nasty next week.


I'm not sure tripling down on white grievance is going to get them any further that it has already, but I guess we'll see.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1423 » by Oscirus » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:42 pm

GONYK wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
US couple who pointed guns at BLM protesters 'to speak at Republican convention'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53819020

This is their counter to John Kasich. This is fine

them and that kid who sued the news over his portrayal in protests. Regardless, they're gonna be coming with all kinds of lies for a week. They're going to tell so many and talk so much **** that its gonna be impossible to catch everything. Its gonna be nasty next week.


I'm not sure tripling down on white grievance is going to get them any further that it has already, but I guess we'll see.

Those guests are stupid, but Im saying that they're gonna come at joe and kamala with every perceived **** up (regardless of whether they're true or not). By Friday, if their job is done the way they intend, they're gonna make them look like unqualified jack offs. I don't think they can pull it off, but Im also not underestimating trump this time.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1424 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:46 pm

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GONYK wrote:If this procedural nomination is the biggest controversy to come of the convention, the Dems are in great shape


Get back to me after the debates. At some point...we will have to get a look at these 2 going one on one with Biden having to answer actual questions in front of a camera. I'm still waiting for an explanation about the kids petting his legs and jumping on his lap. Among other things he's said. They can't hide him forever.


Here is Biden's last 1-on-1 debate. Bernie is much sharper than Trump, so if Biden can match this performance, he'll be fine.




Yeah. Biden was surprisingly sharp that night. They need to inject him with more of whatever they gave him for that debate.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1425 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:51 pm

GONYK wrote:If this procedural nomination is the biggest controversy to come of the convention, the Dems are in great shape


It was a hit job and a sign of what’s to come, no doubt. The DNC is at fault for this. The lines are drawn.

Also, no comment on the DNC removing its pledge to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies from its platform? So much for Biden’s great climate change policy. That didn’t take long at all what’s next? Tax cuts for the wealthy?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1426 » by Stannis » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:55 pm

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Yeah. Biden was surprisingly sharp that night. They need to inject him with more of whatever they gave him that night.


All depends on the moderators. They tend to be Biden favored. But if Biden can just say "Give me a Break" and that ends a question, he will be fine.

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1427 » by GONYK » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:12 pm

Oscirus wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Oscirus wrote:them and that kid who sued the news over his portrayal in protests. Regardless, they're gonna be coming with all kinds of lies for a week. They're going to tell so many and talk so much **** that its gonna be impossible to catch everything. Its gonna be nasty next week.


I'm not sure tripling down on white grievance is going to get them any further that it has already, but I guess we'll see.

Those guests are stupid, but Im saying that they're gonna come at joe and kamala with every perceived **** up (regardless of whether they're true or not). By Friday, if their job is done the way they intend, they're gonna make them look like unqualified jack offs. I don't think they can pull it off, but Im also not underestimating trump this time.


I guess I don't think the people who would tune in to see Red Hat Kid and Racist Gun Couple were ever potential Biden voters to begin with, so I don't think it will have much effect.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1428 » by GONYK » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:14 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
GONYK wrote:If this procedural nomination is the biggest controversy to come of the convention, the Dems are in great shape


It was a hit job and a sign of what’s to come, no doubt. The DNC is at fault for this. The lines are drawn.

Also, no comment on the DNC removing its pledge to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies from its platform? So much for Biden’s great climate change policy. That didn’t take long at all what’s next? Tax cuts for the wealthy?


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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1429 » by Stannis » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:21 pm

Trump endorses Laura Loomer. Very controversial person.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1430 » by GONYK » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:22 pm

Stannis wrote:Trump endorses Laura Loomer. Very controversial person.


She's a legit crazy person.

Between her and the QAnon person from a week ago, the GOP really has become the party of legitimizing deplorables.

I don't think there is a corollary on the Left for the crazies who have gotten through on the Right.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1431 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:23 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
Yeah. Biden was surprisingly sharp that night. They need to inject him with more of whatever they gave him that night.


All depends on the moderators. They tend to be Biden favored. But if Biden can just say "Give me a Break" and that ends a question, he will be fine.

@ 42:45



Biden says Bernie has 9 super pacs, Bernie says he has none. Biden then asks: Want me to list them?
Bernie: list them
Biden: give me a break

:lol: :lol: :lol:



True. They wouldn't call Biden on his lies throughout the debate.

He also lied about not wanting to ever cut Medicare and Social Security.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1432 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:27 pm

GONYK wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
GONYK wrote:If this procedural nomination is the biggest controversy to come of the convention, the Dems are in great shape


It was a hit job and a sign of what’s to come, no doubt. The DNC is at fault for this. The lines are drawn.

Also, no comment on the DNC removing its pledge to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies from its platform? So much for Biden’s great climate change policy. That didn’t take long at all what’s next? Tax cuts for the wealthy?


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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1433 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:38 pm

OMG I just watched Colin Powell's DNC Convention speech and he spoke about "his shared values with Joe Biden" ... like lying us into the Iraq War? More "commander in chief" bullsh¥t. "Joe will have faith in our investigative agencies!" :lol:

Biden was a longtime member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. In 1997, he became the ranking minority member and chaired the committee in January 2001 and from June 2001 to 2003. So Biden and Powell were on the team that lied us into the 2003 Iraq War.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1434 » by Pointgod » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:09 pm

Yup this thread has gotten to the point where we’re talking about about tweets and tweets that are over reactions to other people’s tweets. The election can’t come soon enough.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1435 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:23 pm

Pointgod wrote:Yup this thread has gotten to the point where we’re talking about about tweets and tweets that are over reactions to other people’s tweets. The election can’t come soon enough.


Some people are more invested in their personal feelings than they are in actual politics which by their very nature do not reward absolutists unless you succumb to fascism.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1436 » by aq_ua » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:03 am

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Pointgod wrote:Yup this thread has gotten to the point where we’re talking about about tweets and tweets that are over reactions to other people’s tweets. The election can’t come soon enough.


Some people are more invested in their personal feelings than they are in actual politics which by their very nature do not reward absolutists unless you succumb to fascism.

Call it a naive world view, but I think it’s a slippery slope when “better than” becomes an actual substitute for “good”. Striving for an absolute “good” and maintaining that moral compass is probably a never ending path but one that can’t stop just because it’s more convenient to focus on the relative. In the short term, sure, incremental improvement is better than none, but I would hate a world where idealism and a constant movement towards that absolute good isn’t the ultimate goal.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1437 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:19 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Yup this thread has gotten to the point where we’re talking about about tweets and tweets that are over reactions to other people’s tweets. The election can’t come soon enough.


Some people are more invested in their personal feelings than they are in actual politics which by their very nature do not reward absolutists unless you succumb to fascism.


Call it a naive world view, but I think it’s a slippery slope when “better than” becomes an actual substitute for “good”. Striving for an absolute “good” and maintaining that moral compass is probably a never ending path but one that can’t stop just because it’s more convenient to focus on the relative. In the short term, sure, incremental improvement is better than none, but I would hate a world where idealism and a constant movement towards that absolute good isn’t the ultimate goal.


Sure, that's fine. Remaining committed to a long term vision based on a set of aspirational values is what it takes to enact change over time so you should cling to a sense of what a better world means to you. Without that, you'd probably give up.

What does not accomplish that particularly well is putting one's intolerant feelings to the foreground to virtue signal, rage on social media and marginalize anyone who doesn't fit your narrow definition of acceptable.

They are not the same issue, though they sometimes overlap depending on a person's approach. Accomplishing political goals is not the real agenda when someone engages in overly emo behavior. Unmodulated outrage over every act of compromise becomes the infantilization of politics. Then it becomes more about using political forums as a venue to act out personal alienations than it has to do with what actually gets people elected and able to put into action the agenda you support.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1438 » by NowWHYcee7 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:28 am

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NowWHYcee7 wrote:Trump will win again.

Kamala Harris is one of the most unlikable and phony politicans in recent memory and Biden is a walking vegetable. LMAO November will be so lit, I can't wait to see the salt.


Cool. Enjoy your idiotic racist assh*le president.


He aint no more racist than Biden.

I rather rock out with Trump who is at least honest about what he's about, but truthfully I don't see him as any more racist than white liberal democrats. You can get gassed up over Kamala the cop and the brain-dead buffoon she's trying to capitalize off of if you want. I'll chill, observe, and laugh at all of you lemmings when you get dissapointed in November.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1439 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:39 am

NowWHYcee7 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
NowWHYcee7 wrote:Trump will win again.

Kamala Harris is one of the most unlikable and phony politicans in recent memory and Biden is a walking vegetable. LMAO November will be so lit, I can't wait to see the salt.


Cool. Enjoy your idiotic racist assh*le president.


He aint no more racist than Biden.

I rather rock out with Trump who is at least honest about what he's about, but truthfully I don't see him as any more racist than white liberal democrats. You can get gassed up over Kamala the cop and the brain-dead buffoon she's trying to capitalize off of if you want. I'll chill, observe, and laugh at all of you lemmings when you get dissapointed in November.


Enjoy supporting the party that portrays itself as some kind of group of economic populists while doing more to facilitate the rise of corporate power and the gutting of the middle class than anyone.

And yeah, the democrats participated too, but it doesn't suddenly make buffoons like the tea party or Trump any less than completely and totally full of sh*t.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1440 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:41 am

GONYK wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
US couple who pointed guns at BLM protesters 'to speak at Republican convention'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53819020

This is their counter to John Kasich. This is fine

them and that kid who sued the news over his portrayal in protests. Regardless, they're gonna be coming with all kinds of lies for a week. They're going to tell so many and talk so much **** that its gonna be impossible to catch everything. Its gonna be nasty next week.


I'm not sure tripling down on white grievance is going to get them any further that it has already, but I guess we'll see.


It's ultimately been working since the economic crash of 2007, so why not?
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