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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1501 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:51 pm

Stannis wrote:"When progressives challenge Democrats who vote with Trump 2/3rds of the time, Nancy Pelosi cries foul and works with the (Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee) to make a blacklist for anyone helping the challenger. But when she likes the challenger, or the challenger has a rich and wealthy family, it's okay?"

"It's never been about protecting incumbents, it's been about protecting big Democratic donors profiting off the status quo."

- Sunrise Movement executive director Varshini Prakash,


But if they lose, it's Bernie's fault. :crazy:

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1502 » by Stannis » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:52 pm

"For two years, Democratic Party leadership has endorsed incumbents over progressive primary challengers claiming it is their policy to always back incumbents -- even when the incumbent was anti-choice and endorsed by the NRA"

"But now, when a sitting US Senator champions the Green New Deal while wildfires blanket Speaker Pelosi's home state in smoke, she chooses to endorse a challenger."

- Justice Democrats executive director Alexandra Rojas
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1503 » by Oscirus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:52 pm

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You already conceded to my point on Carlin’s “Illusion of Choice” video in a comment you posted above that “all politicians are criminals”

They don’t want us to have an honest broker like Bernie. Why do you think all of the corporate donors are now lining up behind Biden?


it's not enough that you vote for biden, you also have to shut up and act like you enjoy it. that's what it boils down to. they should be happy you're at least willing to compromise your values


Exactly.

They invite all of these "moderate" republicans and wonder why they lose elections. These two parties are really not that much different after all, I guess. They just proved that point. What does a moderate republican believe in that is consistent with Democratic principles other than their alleged hatred of Trump? John Kasich is anti-women and anti-worker. Those, in and of themselves, should disqualify anyone from speaking at a DNC event ... "but we're so much more compassionate than Trump." FOH

Point is to show they're not radical leftists like they're being labeled, has nothing to do with whether or not they agree on anything. I mean they're going too far with this kumbaya ****, but there is a point to it.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1505 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:52 pm

Stannis wrote:"For two years, Democratic Party leadership has endorsed incumbents over progressive primary challengers claiming it is their policy to always back incumbents -- even when the incumbent was anti-choice and endorsed by the NRA"

"But now, when a sitting US Senator champions the Green New Deal while wildfires blanket Speaker Pelosi's home state in smoke, she chooses to endorse a challenger."

- Justice Democrats executive director Alexandra Rojas


#LyingNancyPelosi

She said the reason why she backed Elliot Engel against Jamall Bowman was because of her "golden rule." She should get a golden shower instead. :lol:
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1506 » by robillionaire » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:53 pm

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I wonder if we can expect anything big to come from this. Can't be good for him since he's gone to such lengths to hide it for so many years
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1507 » by Stannis » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:56 pm

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Stannis wrote:Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

They were stupid to put themselves in that situation by letting her speak at the convention.
Regardless, these days are trump rules, they shouldve been vague as **** in their repudiations.

Not really. They want Muslim votes, and they picked the right person for that. Then threw her under the bus after some backlash (which was mostly pro-Trumpers trying to paint certain dems as anti-semite). Instead of holding your ground, DNC fell right into that trap.

It could have been a good moment for unity that they always talked about.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1508 » by Stannis » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:57 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Stannis wrote:"For two years, Democratic Party leadership has endorsed incumbents over progressive primary challengers claiming it is their policy to always back incumbents -- even when the incumbent was anti-choice and endorsed by the NRA"

"But now, when a sitting US Senator champions the Green New Deal while wildfires blanket Speaker Pelosi's home state in smoke, she chooses to endorse a challenger."

- Justice Democrats executive director Alexandra Rojas


#LyingNancyPelosi

She said the reason why she backed Elliot Engel against Jamall Bowman was because of her "golden rule." She should get a golden shower instead. :lol:

Damn Wingo, that's a little ruthless
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1509 » by Oscirus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:57 pm

Ok yea no idea why she'd endorse someone who defended the **** tea party. But whatever the reason, she need not be doing **** like this for this cycle specifically
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1510 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:58 pm

robillionaire wrote:
GONYK wrote:
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I wonder if we can expect anything big to come from this. Can't be good for him since he's gone to such lengths to hide it for so many years


Oh, he's going to jail. I feel pretty confident about that.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1511 » by BallSacBounce » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:58 pm

Oscirus wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:Orange Man Bad/ Deplorables didn't work in 2016 why will it work now? I still don't think the Dems get what brought Trump to power.

Anyway, I believe Biden is a sacrificial lamb. They know no one is beating Trump this year so why not give old Joe a nice parting gift and not use up a rising star on a failed run.

Except this convention hasnt been about that. But nice random complaint to show you havent been paying attention.

Yeah, it kinda has. Obama ripped Trump. It still won't work.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1512 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:59 pm

Stannis wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Stannis wrote:"For two years, Democratic Party leadership has endorsed incumbents over progressive primary challengers claiming it is their policy to always back incumbents -- even when the incumbent was anti-choice and endorsed by the NRA"

"But now, when a sitting US Senator champions the Green New Deal while wildfires blanket Speaker Pelosi's home state in smoke, she chooses to endorse a challenger."

- Justice Democrats executive director Alexandra Rojas


#LyingNancyPelosi

She said the reason why she backed Elliot Engel against Jamall Bowman was because of her "golden rule." She should get a golden shower instead. :lol:

Damn Wingo, that's a little ruthless


It's from my stand-up show. It usually brings down the House! :lol:

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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1513 » by Stannis » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:00 pm

I skimmed through most of the convention. Did they talk about China's crime against human rights at all? Mainly about what the Chinese government is doing to Hong Kong and the Uyghurs?
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1514 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:01 pm

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Oscirus wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:Orange Man Bad/ Deplorables didn't work in 2016 why will it work now? I still don't think the Dems get what brought Trump to power.

Anyway, I believe Biden is a sacrificial lamb. They know no one is beating Trump this year so why not give old Joe a nice parting gift and not use up a rising star on a failed run.

Except this convention hasnt been about that. But nice random complaint to show you havent been paying attention.

Yeah, it kinda has. Obama ripped Trump. It still won't work.


What more can you really say about Trump. It's worthless just to rant on him without juxtaposing the specific policies you're bringing to the table.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1515 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:01 pm

Stannis wrote:I skimmed through most of the convention. Did they talk about China's crime against human rights at all? Mainly Hong Kong and what they are doing to the Uyghurs?


How about Israel and Palestine? :lol:
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1516 » by Stannis » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:03 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Stannis wrote:I skimmed through most of the convention. Did they talk about China's crime against human rights at all? Mainly Hong Kong and what they are doing to the Uyghurs?


How about Israel and Palestine? :lol:

Well I think they made that part loud and clear already.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1517 » by Oscirus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:03 pm

Stannis wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Stannis wrote:Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

They were stupid to put themselves in that situation by letting her speak at the convention.
Regardless, these days are trump rules, they shouldve been vague as **** in their repudiations.

Not really. They want Muslim votes, and they picked the right person for that. Then threw her under the bus after some backlash (which was mostly pro-Trumpers trying to paint certain dems as anti-semite). Instead of holding your ground, DNC fell right into that trap.

It could have been a good moment for unity that they always talked about.

The problem with painting yourself as a good guy is that you must always do so. She has more than enough dirt where it's noticeable and can be used against her. Trump doesnt do this so he can shake off any media criticism easily. Dems need to learn that good guy label means jack **** and until then, avoid avoidable situations like this.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1518 » by j4remi » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:05 pm

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I wonder if we can expect anything big to come from this. Can't be good for him since he's gone to such lengths to hide it for so many years


I have no doubt there's something there, but I do worry that they won't be able to make it stick. Between the Mueller Report and now the SSCI report; it's kinda mindblowing that Trump, through repetition by himself and sycophants, essentially was able to convince so many people that the impeachment was a witch hunt.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/russiagate-wasnt-a-hoax/615373/
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1519 » by Oscirus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:06 pm

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Oscirus wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:Orange Man Bad/ Deplorables didn't work in 2016 why will it work now? I still don't think the Dems get what brought Trump to power.

Anyway, I believe Biden is a sacrificial lamb. They know no one is beating Trump this year so why not give old Joe a nice parting gift and not use up a rising star on a failed run.

Except this convention hasnt been about that. But nice random complaint to show you havent been paying attention.

Yeah, it kinda has. Obama ripped Trump. It still won't work.

He ripped trump and his ability to lead, didn't attack Trump or his followers on a personal level. It's wishful thinking on your part that this wont work, but I believe it will.
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Re: Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce 

Post#1520 » by Oscirus » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:11 pm

j4remi wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
GONYK wrote:
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I wonder if we can expect anything big to come from this. Can't be good for him since he's gone to such lengths to hide it for so many years


I have no doubt there's something there, but I do worry that they won't be able to make it stick. Between the Mueller Report and now the SSCI report; it's kinda mindblowing that Trump essentially, through repetition by himself and sycophants, was able to convince so many people that the impeachment was a witch hunt.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/russiagate-wasnt-a-hoax/615373/

If the nixon administration happened in this era, not only do I think that watergate wouldve been shrugged off, but Agnew wouldve still been vp as well. Both sides care very little about crimes if it keeps them in power. Democrats are only limited because they love that useless good guy label for some reason.
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