The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5)

MisterHibachi · Post #1221 » by **MisterHibachi** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:45 pm

It's gotta be like a 2-4 minute hook for McGee.

yoyoboy · Post #1222 » by **yoyoboy** » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:52 pm

You can't let this be a down to the wire game. If it's reasonably close in the last 6 minutes or so Lillard is going to nail 35 footers until they get that win. You've gotta keep a sizable distance.

homecourtloss · Post #1223 » by **homecourtloss** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:18 am

trex_8063 wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
poopdamoop wrote:Old, past-prime Michael Jordan doesn't even make the playoffs - "that's not the real MJ, of course he can't be expected to carry a team anymore"

Old, past-prime LeBron James potentially gets upset in the playoffs - "embarassing, GOAT status revoked"

Not only that, but look who they’re playing. How many players did Jordan face 1990–1998 playoffs better than 2020 Lillard? Talent is out of this world in this league right now and a year 17/18 LeBron had a +10 RPM season and a number seed before going into this bubble.

They were all waiting and now they might get the chance.

I guess to some degree I want to see how the rest of the playoffs go for Lillard, but off the cuff I do think there are a number of players Jordan faced who were as good or better than Lillard, especially in terms of looking at both sides of the ball [it's perhaps not in vogue to suggest such a thing right now, as hot as Lillard's been, but there it is].

And personally, I would still call '20 part of Lebron's prime (or at least certainly part of what I sometimes refer to as "extended prime"), even if he is 35 years old. He's certainly well-past his peak, but I don't feel there's an automatic shut-off age for one's prime [or extended prime]. For example, I think Karl Malone's extended prime goes all the way to age 37; Nash's went to probably about age 37 too.
otoh, some players are past even their extended primes by age 30 (especially if injury is involved).
Not that calling this a prime or extended prime year is a strike for or against Lebron (is merely semantics); all that matters is his level of play.

But yeah: it's a very special-tiered player who damn-near has a 20-20-20 triple double in his 17th season at age 35 and is still [apparently] open to criticism because his team lost (by only 7, while his teammates [which includes more than a few 3&D role players] go a combined 4 for 27 [14.8%] from 3pt range). I do sort of feel like he's on an island with that kind of treatment.

Good post as per usual, but name the players. Now Lillard is for sure a negative defender but he plays a position in which almost every player is a negative. In these bubble games, his offense makes his overall impact (even including subpar defense) tremendous and basically makes his defense close to irrelevant.

Other than ‘95/‘96 Shaq, I don’t think Jordan played a player I wouldn’t rather play than Lillard.

Magic ‘91 is a better overall player but I’d take my chances against him rather than bubble Lillard.

Barkley ‘93—same as above

Stockton/Malone, ‘97. Maybe better overall individually (certainly as a duo) but don’t scare me the way Bubble Lillard does.

Payton, no. Kemp, no. Drexler, no. Ewing, no

yoyoboy · Post #1224 » by **yoyoboy** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:26 am

Read on Twitter

Greyhound · Post #1225 » by **Greyhound** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:17 am

Danny Green is point shaving. Convince me otherwise.

Post #1226 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:18 am

Can somebody pleeeeeease hire Mark Jackson as a head coach? :pray:

Mos_Heat · Post #1227 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:19 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:Can somebody pleeeeeease hire Mark Jackson as a head coach?

Had exactly the same thought

MisterHibachi · Post #1228 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:23 am

Alright JaVale did good in his minutes but time to sub him out coming out of the timeout.

Mos_Heat · Post #1229 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:23 am

AD completely lost on defense

dreamshake · Post #1230 » by **dreamshake** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:30 am

AD just doesn't look right out there. Pretty concerning.

dcstanley · Post #1231 » by **dcstanley** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:30 am

Guards are playing well defensively

Greyhound · Post #1232 » by **Greyhound** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

Davis is dead right now. His conditioning has been a tad suspect in the bubble.

MisterHibachi · Post #1233 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

Buying into the AD is overweight or out of shape thing. He was exhausted going into that timeout and seems to have no legs under his jumper. Wth.

yoyoboy · Post #1234 » by **yoyoboy** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:32 am

Yeah this isn't the DPOY Anthony Davis I watched for most of the year. He's carrying some extra weight for sure.

nzahir · Post #1235 » by **nzahir** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:32 am

How is Lebron not tearing into AD for this?

Lebron is always in top shape, how is he allowing this?

Greyhound · Post #1236 » by **Greyhound** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:33 am

MisterHibachi wrote:Alright JaVale did good in his minutes but time to sub him out coming out of the timeout.

It was good to see him finally arrive to the bubble. He finally looked like the guy that played during the real season.

Mos_Heat · Post #1237 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:37 am

Already missed like 5 wide open corner 3s

dreamshake · Post #1238 » by **dreamshake** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:39 am

LeBron really doesn't have a great feel for 2-for-1 opportunities. He sometimes takes wild shots (the really long 3 in G1 for example) a little too early for a 2-for-1 and he slowed it down and dribbled past a prime 2-for-1 opportunity at the end of this quarter.

nzahir · Post #1239 » by **nzahir** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:39 am

Why doesn't AD do this every time? Stop shooting, attack

MisterHibachi · Post #1240 » by **MisterHibachi** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:39 am

The defensive gameplan through 5 quarters seems to be solid.