2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th!

TheSuzerain · Post #401 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:26 am

nomorezorro wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Is he a center?

The prosecution rests.

i tried my hardest to push back against this line of argument in the WCJ draft, but i have learned the error of my ways and will be fighting by your side this year

Welcome to the light side.

Dresden · Post #402 » by **Dresden** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:27 am

chicago paxsons wrote:
Dresden wrote:
chicago paxsons wrote:Finally no longer in 7th pick hell, thanks karnisovas.

I personally would like to see deni avdija on the bulls. I know best player available is the strategy, but getting a wing like him is hard for me to pass up.

He's not that well proven though- played against weak comp, had an inconsistent shot until recently. Definitely some red flags with him.

Isn’t being unproven the case for every one of these players though? How many of them have played professionally? The nba is the best league in the world so there will always be that risk and learning curve. If your not sold on him, i understand, but no matter who we pick, no one is a guaranteed star.

For sure. There are big question marks about everyone in this draft, starting with Edwards. And Deni might prove to be the BPA, but I could also him being pretty mediocre as a pro.

drosereturn · Post #403 » by **drosereturn** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:27 am

wow fk the bulls got really lucky considernig they couldnt pick 5th or 6th best scenario even picking 1st.

Jcool0 · Post #404 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:27 am

Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

No chance Bulls want LaMelo.

drosereturn · Post #405 » by **drosereturn** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:28 am

Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

no thats crazy if the pick Deni and Hayes that high. waste of a pick just like Carter.
plz pick ball, wiseman, edwards whoever falls.

Jcool0 · Post #406 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:30 am

Showtime23 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

no thats crazy if the pick Deni and Hayes that high. waste of a pick just like Carter.
plz pick ball, wiseman, edwards whoever falls.

Plz dont pick Ball. I would prefer not for AK to take a bust with his first pick.

NecessaryEvil · Post #407 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:30 am

Jcool0 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

No chance Bulls want LaMelo.

Arturas isn't Paxson, Forman etc.

There is definitely a chance.

nomorezorro · Post #408 » by **nomorezorro** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

Jcool0 wrote:No chance Bulls want LaMelo.

what is the point of posting something like this. on what basis are you saying there's "no chance" the bulls want a player generally seen as a top prospect at this draft at #4 overall, especially with a front office in charge that just got hired a few months ago.

Dez · Post #409 » by **Dez** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

Showtime23 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

no thats crazy if the pick Deni and Hayes that high. waste of a pick just like Carter.
plz pick ball, wiseman, edwards whoever falls.

So you worship AK and his ability to draft yet you claim that if he picked Avdija or Hayes it'd be a waste of a pick (I'll ignore the ridiculous comment about WCJ)?

Do you follow any sort of logic with your thinking? Everything just seems so random except your overrating of Lauri.

Chi · Post #410 » by **Chi** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

I trust any decision the new Front Office makes... As long as it's not Deni

Jcool0 · Post #411 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

No chance Bulls want LaMelo.

Arturas isn't Paxson, Forman etc.

There is definitely a chance.

Gar/Pax wouldn't go near him. They wouldn't even have him on their board.

nomorezorro · Post #412 » by **nomorezorro** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

i think there's some chance the bulls want literally every single player in the draft!

mtron32 · Post #413 » by **mtron32** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:31 am

Showtime23 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

no thats crazy if the pick Deni and Hayes that high. waste of a pick just like Carter.
plz pick ball, wiseman, edwards whoever falls.

I wouldn't hate Wiseman, an actual center, then we'd have Gafford as the back up and Carter could move to 4

JohnnyTapwater · Post #414 » by **JohnnyTapwater** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:32 am

Teams will be trading up for Ball and Wiseman.

SfBull · Post #415 » by **SfBull** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:33 am

Chi wrote:To Excited!

It's 4 Stars in this draft and the Bulls are about to get 1

Melo,Wiseman and Edwards and who else?

Jcool0 · Post #416 » by **Jcool0** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:33 am

JohnnyTapwater wrote:Teams will be trading up for Ball and Wiseman.

Maybe you would... NBA teams not so much.

drosereturn · Post #417 » by **drosereturn** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:34 am

JohnnyTapwater wrote:Teams will be trading up for Ball and Wiseman.

it only freaking takes 1 stupid team to make wrong mistake and not pick Ball, Wiseman, Edwards. One of those is ours I guarantee.
If they somehow dont get them, im trading for a 2021 unprotected or Bostons 3 picks plus a major prospect.

LikeMike23 · Post #418 » by **LikeMike23** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:35 am

Jcool0 wrote:
Showtime23 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:There are already rumors AK likes Avdija and Hayes. To that, I would imagine we would consider Lamelo if he drops and maybe Toppin.

no thats crazy if the pick Deni and Hayes that high. waste of a pick just like Carter.
plz pick ball, wiseman, edwards whoever falls.

Plz dont pick Ball. I would prefer not for AK to take a bust with his first pick.

There's no way LeMelo Ball is going to be a bust. He just won rookie of the year in a pro league. He might not be an all-star, but he'll be a safer pick than most.

JohnnyTapwater · Post #419 » by **JohnnyTapwater** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:35 am

Jcool0 wrote:
JohnnyTapwater wrote:Teams will be trading up for Ball and Wiseman.

Maybe you would... NBA teams not so much.

I guarantee it.

MGB8 · Post #420 » by **MGB8** » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:35 am

TheSuzerain wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Is he a center?

The prosecution rests.

i tried my hardest to push back against this line of argument in the WCJ draft, but i have learned the error of my ways and will be fighting by your side this year

Welcome to the light side.

Meh. I wasn't on board with the WCJ pick, in part due to the position weakness, but there's a big talent gap between Carter and Wiseman. Centers can still have huge impacts - look not at Vucevic, Nurkic, Jokic, Anthony Davis (who is a center half of the time), Abedayo, KAT, Porzingis (and the impact he had on Dallas' defense - though really on both sides of the ball).

If there was an equivalent talent available at a more impactful position - sure, you go with the guard or wing. But aside from Edwards and maybe Ball, don't really think that there is one in this draft. So, if Wiseman falls to 4 (which I don't think there's much chance in happening) - you run up with him on the card.