2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th!

[HomoSapien]

I can't get excited about Ball. He seems so underwhelming as an athlete. I love great passers, but the type of passes he throws ... I just feel like they'll be easily stolen by an NBA defender.

[Jcool0]

There's no way LeMelo Ball is going to be a bust. He just won rookie of the year in a pro league. He might not be an all-star, but he'll be a safer pick than most.

How is he a safe pick? He cant play defense or shoot. So are you okay with a 10-11 point, 5-6 rebound, 7-8 assist PG like his brother? How many of those kind of PG are on playoff teams. How has Kris Dunn worked out putt up similar numbers?

LeMelo Ball is a 6'8" point guard with a 6'10" wingspan! Kris Dunn is a midget compared to him, so you can't compare the two.

If you're worried about LeMelo Ball on defense, you're worried about the wrong thing. His brother is a damn good defender because of his size and athleticism. LeMelo has those same traits. After some time in the weight room, LeMelo will be a good defender at the very least. With his size, most point guards aren't going to easily score over him anyway.

If the Bulls draft LeMelo, it will probably mean they're going to play at a faster pace. LeMelo would help the Bulls push the pace and get easy baskets in transition, which is something the Bulls haven't done since Derrick Rose was traded.

If LeMelo was the Bulls starting point guard, Coby White and Zach LaVine could focus on scoring. Tomas Satoransky could play backup point guard, which he is better suited to do. With these changes, the Bulls could score more points and play a more entertaining style of basketball.

Overall, I think drafting LeMelo Ball is far from the worst thing that could happen to the Bulls.

I mean i wish it was that easy for players with bad traits just to hit the weight room and a little gym time and correct everything. But mostly if you aren't flashing things by the time the draft comes around you aren't going to develop that in the NBA. He is a ball dominate PG who will make some flashy assists and get some rebounds but not bring much else to the table. Bringing up Dunn is just to show we have seen what happens when a PG can't shoot. He is an athletic PG who is decent as getting assists and a good defender but because he cant shoot he pretty much regulated to a backup PG.

[Chi town]

People can't get out their emotions about his father...

Ball is going to be great.... He's not even 19 yet and he's already so advanced in his vision and ball handling.

It's going to be funny to see people change their tune on him.

I read words like that about Lonzo.

Ding ding ding. We don't want to be the ones stuck with another Ball bust.

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What kills Lonzo is he had no midrange game. HIs halfcourt offense consists of 3s. He only scores at the rim in transition.

I'm not a Melo fan but he will be able to score in the league from all 3 levels. Eventually he will get calls and lots of FTs too.

[The Box Office]

Why should we pick Melo having White for the point? People are giving up on him with just one season?

Pretend that you're the Portland Trailblazers.

- You have Clyde Drexler. You pass on Michael Jordan.
- Kevin Durant is available. You pass on him.

Pretend that you're the Seattle Sonics.

- You had Scottie Pippen, but traded him away for Oden Polynice.

Pretend that we're us. The Chicago Bulls.

- Brandon Clarke was available; a 20.9 PER and 5 Win shares rookie. We passed on him for Coby White; an 11.9 PER and 0.9 Win shares rookie instead.

[thedarkstark]

Warriors trading 2 and Wiggins for Beal

Beal isn't a good fit with Curry and Klay. They need a switchy wing like Wiggins but really good.

People said the same thing about KD, how did that turn out? Steph and Klay can both play off the ball, they might even be better off the ball, Beal would fit just fine. The only player that wouldn't with them IMO would be a ball stopper who ruins their movement like 2010 Zach Randolph or possibly Westbrook.

[drosereturn]

Why should we pick Melo having White for the point? People are giving up on him with just one season?

Dude White was 7th and picked relatively high. Ball is a consensus top 3 pick has superstar potential. I dont care if White gets dumped if Ball develops. all in on him.

[nomorezorro]

Warriors trading 2 and Wiggins for Beal

Beal isn't a good fit with Curry and Klay. They need a switchy wing like Wiggins but really good.

the problem with this trade isn't on golden state's end lol

i feel like either my perception is super skewed or people really, really don't grasp how bad this draft is

[NecessaryEvil]

That will purdue trade makes NO sense for Golden State


Wendell is injury prone and the 4th is one slot outside of the higher tiered prospects talent wise.

Embiid, Giannis, Beal etc would be the type of deal a team with an aging core would be looking for

[thedarkstark]

I'm not a Melo fan but he will be able to score in the league from all 3 levels. Eventually he will get calls and lots of FTs too.

No he won't, look at his numbers in Europe, he's ridiculously inefficient. He's a bad shooter and a bad finisher, that busted ass shot will never work in the NBA, he'd need to relearn how to shoot.

[Chi town]

What do you guys view Coby White as? PG or SG?

He's more of a SG. He's not great running the P&R. He is best hunting for his own shot.

But a primarily scoring guard like him plays the PG position often enough these days, Kemba Walker only averages 4 apg. Jamal Murray also 4 apg.

Kemba was hovering around 6 but Denver can get away with Murray at point because of Jokic. I certainly would not be confident in Murray being the primary playmaker on a winning team. He has certainly improved but his reads aren't on the level of an elite playmaking pg. Either way..based on what I know about AK. I think there's a very good chance you end up with Deni Avdija.

I'd agree with this. I think Coby showed more playmaking once he was starting but not enough to be the lead playmaker. I don't know if Deni could be the playmaker, especially without being the lead handler. I think he can def help the playmaking and ball movement though. Maybe its playmaking by committee with Coby Lavine and Deni. Bulls sure looked better when Otto was on the court as a secondary playmaker.

[Chi town]

That will purdue trade makes NO sense for Golden State


Wendell is injury prone and the 4th is one slot outside of the higher tiered prospects talent wise.

Embiid, Giannis, Beal etc would be the type of deal a team with an aging core would be looking for

Exactly. I dont' think AK would tough that either. He's looking to win not get younger and give up assets doing it.

[StunnerKO]

Warriors trading 2 and Wiggins for Beal

Beal isn't a good fit with Curry and Klay. They need a switchy wing like Wiggins but really good.

the problem with this trade isn't on golden state's end lol

i feel like either my perception is super skewed or people really, really don't grasp how bad this draft is

It’s not that but the wizards need to blow it up
Wall and Beal ran its course and depending who is there at 2 Wiz could make another playoff run . Yea the draft isn’t the best but the potential of the top 3 still could be stars. Wizard could use Edwards or wiseman.

[Chi town]

Warriors trading 2 and Wiggins for Beal

Beal isn't a good fit with Curry and Klay. They need a switchy wing like Wiggins but really good.

People said the same thing about KD, how did that turn out? Steph and Klay can both play off the ball, they might even be better off the ball, Beal would fit just fine. The only player that wouldn't with them IMO would be a ball stopper who ruins their movement like 2010 Zach Randolph or possibly Westbrook.

Durant was nearly 7 foot and a great defender and MVP. That's not Beal. They need someone that can play PF next to Draymond at the 5.

[SfBull]

Why should we pick Melo having White for the point? People are giving up on him with just one season?

Pretend that you're the Portland Trailblazers.

- You have Clyde Drexler. You pass on Michael Jordan.
- Kevin Durant is available. You pass on him.

Pretend that you're the Seattle Sonics.

- You had Scottie Pippen, but traded him away for Oden Polynice.

Pretend that we're us. The Chicago Bulls.

- Brandon Clarke was available; a 20.9 PER and 5 Win shares rookie. We passed on him for Coby White; an 11.9 PER and 0.9 Win shares rookie instead.

Yeah but you were on the right side getting MJ and Pippen and now you( we) are on the wrong side passing better players . Can't win forever.
That said,I believe that Coby can be a useful asset with a better coach.It's an open draft from #4 , anything can happen.

[wonderboy2]

Plz dont pick Ball. I would prefer not for AK to take a bust with his first pick.

There's no way LeMelo Ball is going to be a bust. He just won rookie of the year in a pro league. He might not be an all-star, but he'll be a safer pick than most.

How is he a safe pick? He cant play defense or shoot. So are you okay with a 10-11 point, 5-6 rebound, 7-8 assist PG like his brother? How many of those kind of PG are on playoff teams. How has Kris Dunn worked out putt up similar numbers?

Sato did worse than that and he’s 10 year older and yet people still love him on this board. Ball can develop a shot. He has tools on defense. But it won’t matter because he won’t be their when the bulls pick.

[thedarkstark]

Why should we pick Melo having White for the point? People are giving up on him with just one season?

Dude White was 7th and picked relatively high. Ball is a consensus top 3 pick has superstar potential. I dont care if White gets dumped if Ball develops. all in on him.

Look I woudln't hate the pick if that's what ended up happening just because this draft is completely devoid of talent but literally nobody think Lamelo has superstar potential except his daddy.

[Jcool0]

There's no way LeMelo Ball is going to be a bust. He just won rookie of the year in a pro league. He might not be an all-star, but he'll be a safer pick than most.

How is he a safe pick? He cant play defense or shoot. So are you okay with a 10-11 point, 5-6 rebound, 7-8 assist PG like his brother? How many of those kind of PG are on playoff teams. How has Kris Dunn worked out putt up similar numbers?

Sato did worse than that and he’s 10 year older and yet people still love him on this board. Ball can develop a shot. He has tools on defense. But it won’t matter because he won’t be their when the bulls pick.

People like Sato? I thought most wanted him gone.

[thedarkstark]

Beal isn't a good fit with Curry and Klay. They need a switchy wing like Wiggins but really good.

People said the same thing about KD, how did that turn out? Steph and Klay can both play off the ball, they might even be better off the ball, Beal would fit just fine. The only player that wouldn't with them IMO would be a ball stopper who ruins their movement like 2010 Zach Randolph or possibly Westbrook.

Durant was nearly 7 foot and a great defender and MVP. That's not Beal. They need someone that can play PF next to Draymond at the 5.

Needing a PF has absolutely zero to do with Beal being able to fit, that's an entirely different problem on its own.

[SfBull]

Why should we pick Melo having White for the point? People are giving up on him with just one season?

Dude White was 7th and picked relatively high. Ball is a consensus top 3 pick has superstar potential. I dont care if White gets dumped if Ball develops. all in on him.

Look I woudln't hate the pick if that's what ended up happening just because this draft is completely devoid of talent but literally nobody think Lamelo has superstar potential except his daddy.

Superstar potential?Like Doncic,Wade,Curry?

[wonderboy2]

What do you guys view Coby White as? PG or SG?

Coby is not going to be a factor if AK wants best talent like Ball.
He is a combo guard and probably his like a Lou Williams type 6th man yr. Hes just not a full time pg like Luka.
My dream is get Ball at 4, trade overpaid Lavine, and move super scorer White to the 2 spot where he can develop as 2nd playmaker.
im not high on him but thats the best i can do to him. not going to give him full power to control Lauri with 30 usg. no way.

Well thank goodness you not a GM because that would be a silly plan.