OT: COVID-19 thread #3

[League Circles]

I've gotta say this somewhere, and nextdoor app isn't safe even though it's more relevant:

If I see you in a store or something with your mask hanging off your face, below your nose, etc, there's a high chance that I'm going to yell at you and humiliate you in front of everyone in public. I'm so **** sick of seeing people do this and thinking they're getting away with something. Don't say I didn't warn you. Don't think you're going to call everyone's bluff just because you're an actual child posing as a grown up.

I thought I would do this, then I was at the grocery store and there was some guy there browsing the produce holding his mask in his hand. Did he simply forget and have an airhead moment? Was he defiantly not wearing his mask? I decided not to find out. He wasn't like a physically imposing person or anything, mostly I just didn't want the hassle if he's someone who's going to argue with me about it.

I won't do it to an old tired person, but I was moments away from doing it to an obnoxious (and incredibly hot haha) young woman at the grocery store the other day but I got held up in line and she exited with her moron family. I can't really describe why it bothers me so much but it basically makes me angry beyond belief. Those people are using common decency to manipulate others into accepting their recklessness under the guise that it's some sort of accident, that they're putting in at least some effort. But I see right through it.

[League Circles]

I feel for the employees. Minimum wage isn’t enough to go around stopping 40% of the customers and telling them to wear a mask when most of those people would probably welcome a verbal confrontation about it. Not to mention, in a small town like that you probably are neighbors and acquaintances with a lot of them.

Agree. Not only is it unfair to expect minimum wage employees to be the "mask police," those people who don't wear masks or don't wear them properly are endangering those employees (as well as customers).

They should have the store GM sit at the entrance and yell at people with a megaphone who don't mask.

[Dresden]

I feel for the employees. Minimum wage isn’t enough to go around stopping 40% of the customers and telling them to wear a mask when most of those people would probably welcome a verbal confrontation about it. Not to mention, in a small town like that you probably are neighbors and acquaintances with a lot of them.

Agree. Not only is it unfair to expect minimum wage employees to be the "mask police," those people who don't wear masks or don't wear them properly are endangering those employees (as well as customers).

They should have the store GM sit at the entrance and yell at people with a megaphone who don't mask.

Better yet- make them wait in a small room with no ventilation with all the other customers who came in the store not wearing masks that day. See if they still feel comfortable not wearing a mask then.

[Ccwatercraft]

I've gotta say this somewhere, and nextdoor app isn't safe even though it's more relevant:

If I see you in a store or something with your mask hanging off your face, below your nose, etc, there's a high chance that I'm going to yell at you and humiliate you in front of everyone in public. I'm so **** sick of seeing people do this and thinking they're getting away with something. Don't say I didn't warn you. Don't think you're going to call everyone's bluff just because you're an actual child posing as a grown up.

I thought I would do this, then I was at the grocery store and there was some guy there browsing the produce holding his mask in his hand. Did he simply forget and have an airhead moment? Was he defiantly not wearing his mask? I decided not to find out. He wasn't like a physically imposing person or anything, mostly I just didn't want the hassle if he's someone who's going to argue with me about it.

I won't do it to an old tired person, but I was moments away from doing it to an obnoxious (and incredibly hot haha) young woman at the grocery store the other day but I got held up in line and she exited with her moron family. I can't really describe why it bothers me so much but it basically makes me angry beyond belief. Those people are using common decency to manipulate others into accepting their recklessness under the guise that it's some sort of accident, that they're putting in at least some effort. But I see right through it.

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

[League Circles]

I thought I would do this, then I was at the grocery store and there was some guy there browsing the produce holding his mask in his hand. Did he simply forget and have an airhead moment? Was he defiantly not wearing his mask? I decided not to find out. He wasn't like a physically imposing person or anything, mostly I just didn't want the hassle if he's someone who's going to argue with me about it.

I won't do it to an old tired person, but I was moments away from doing it to an obnoxious (and incredibly hot haha) young woman at the grocery store the other day but I got held up in line and she exited with her moron family. I can't really describe why it bothers me so much but it basically makes me angry beyond belief. Those people are using common decency to manipulate others into accepting their recklessness under the guise that it's some sort of accident, that they're putting in at least some effort. But I see right through it.

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

It is a little weird, but not nearly as weird as wearing a mask that doesn't cover your nose, expecting people to let it slide because you're betting that they're more polite than you. I'm sick of my manners being abused by imbeciles, and I don't see a big downside to humiliating them in public.

[Dresden]

Here's how Denmark safely reopened schools in a pandemic without requiring masks

And why it might not work in the United States

By Mike Moffitt, SFGATE Updated 2:35 pm PDT, Tuesday, August 18, 2020

https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/How-Denmark-safely-reopened-schools-no-masks-15493094.php

[dice]

I won't do it to an old tired person, but I was moments away from doing it to an obnoxious (and incredibly hot haha) young woman at the grocery store the other day but I got held up in line and she exited with her moron family. I can't really describe why it bothers me so much but it basically makes me angry beyond belief. Those people are using common decency to manipulate others into accepting their recklessness under the guise that it's some sort of accident, that they're putting in at least some effort. But I see right through it.

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

It is a little weird, but not nearly as weird as wearing a mask that doesn't cover your nose, expecting people to let it slide because you're betting that they're more polite than you. I'm sick of my manners being abused by imbeciles, and I don't see a big downside to humiliating them in public.

i think that some people genuinely think that cheating a little by having it not cover their nose isn't as bad as breathing out of their uncovered mouth. and i suppose it isn't, but it's nearly as bad

i have more of a problem with those who fiddle around constantly, sometimes having the mask on their chin as they talk to someone else with their mask on. just today i passed two old ladies on the sidewalk giving each other an elbow bump, either finishing up or starting a conversation. as i passed them (at a safe distance, of course), one of them pulled her mask down to talk, apparently thinking that because the other was wearing a mask that they were both protected. just one of a number of times that i've seen the same dynamic. each time i've been tempted to warn the mask wearer that they are only minimally protected in such a situation. each time i have refrained because i was either in passing or at a distance

there's just an astonishing amount of ignorance about the prevention basics. and that's on top of the general irresponsibility. every time i walk past/through a park on a nice day i'm baffled and wish there was a hotline that people could call. hell, there should be a cop assigned to every relatively populated park to break up reckless activity. how kids are permitted to play organized baseball/softball (including congregating on the sidelines) w/o masks is beyond me. even sadder is seeing dozens of black and brown skinned kids playing soccer, not only because they are higher risk populations but because of the nature of the sport relative to baseball/softball

[dice]

Agree. Not only is it unfair to expect minimum wage employees to be the "mask police," those people who don't wear masks or don't wear them properly are endangering those employees (as well as customers).

They should have the store GM sit at the entrance and yell at people with a megaphone who don't mask.

Better yet- make them wait in a small room with no ventilation with all the other customers who came in the store not wearing masks that day. See if they still feel comfortable not wearing a mask then.

they'd think they had gained admission to a special club. lots of smirking and joking going on in that little room, i'd imagine

special would be an appropriate word, though

i'm not sure that anything could be more beneficial to general awareness at this point than seeing the virus rip through all the mostly southern college football teams that have decided to soldier on. kneecap the season. would be further evidence that it's not some liberal (worldwide!) hoax

[Dresden]

And then there's this:

"Vice President Mike Pence defended the Trump administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic on ABC’s "Good Morning America" Friday, saying he "couldn’t be more proud" of President Donald Trump’s leadership, despite millions of active cases across the country and a death toll above 170,000.

"I couldn't be more proud of the leadership President Trump is provided from the early days of the coronavirus pandemic," Pence told GMA anchor George Stephanopoulos, citing Trump’s suspension of travel from China in late January."

[DuckIII]

I thought I would do this, then I was at the grocery store and there was some guy there browsing the produce holding his mask in his hand. Did he simply forget and have an airhead moment? Was he defiantly not wearing his mask? I decided not to find out. He wasn't like a physically imposing person or anything, mostly I just didn't want the hassle if he's someone who's going to argue with me about it.

I won't do it to an old tired person, but I was moments away from doing it to an obnoxious (and incredibly hot haha) young woman at the grocery store the other day but I got held up in line and she exited with her moron family. I can't really describe why it bothers me so much but it basically makes me angry beyond belief. Those people are using common decency to manipulate others into accepting their recklessness under the guise that it's some sort of accident, that they're putting in at least some effort. But I see right through it.

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

Not nearly as weird as preplanning social disobedience that endangers others, spreads a pandemic, and hastens the destruction of our economy in the name of some maliciously misguided and ignorant delusion of constitutional freedom.

[Chi town]

What Trump should have said from the very beginning is “Wear a mask and get back to work.”

He’d have a lot more credibility if he did. His anti mask posture is beyond dumb, wreckless, and screams incompetency.

Let us not forget that the CDC and WHO both said don’t wear a mask or you will touch it and get Covid. They were wrong.

Trump should have followed South Korea’s protocol. They masked up the whole time and have crushed Covid.

[dice]

What Trump should have said from the very beginning is “Wear a mask and get back to work.”

except that wearing a mask is not a substitute for social distancing. it is an additional protection. and nobody knew much about how exactly how the virus is transmitted early on. the early suspicion that it was highly transmissible on surfaces has proven to be not quite true, for example

but sure, the stance you're suggesting would have been vastly preferable to the one he has chosen to take

Let us not forget that the CDC and WHO both said don’t wear a mask or you will touch it and get Covid. They were wrong.
Trump should have followed South Korea’s protocol. They masked up the whole time and have crushed Covid.

equally as importantly, s. korea has tested and contact traced much more effectively. there was no science that needed to come in on that front. we're STILL not doing it effectively and, in fact, our testing has declined in recent days. stupefying

anyway, i'm not sure that china, s korea and japan (the main proponents of mask wearing as of march) had any science knowledge that the rest of us didn't have. there was obviously a cultural component to it. probably better to follow the scientific consensus as a general rule. and by early april that consensus had changed. we discovered that asymptomatic transmission was a big issue, for example. here's a good article from right on the cusp of the change in recommendations:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/would-everyone-wearing-face-masks-help-us-slow-pandemic

[Ccwatercraft]

I won't do it to an old tired person, but I was moments away from doing it to an obnoxious (and incredibly hot haha) young woman at the grocery store the other day but I got held up in line and she exited with her moron family. I can't really describe why it bothers me so much but it basically makes me angry beyond belief. Those people are using common decency to manipulate others into accepting their recklessness under the guise that it's some sort of accident, that they're putting in at least some effort. But I see right through it.

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

Not nearly as weird as preplanning social disobedience that endangers others, spreads a pandemic, and hastens the destruction of our economy in the name of some maliciously misguided and ignorant delusion of constitutional freedom.

Two weirds make it right?

I always hoped I'd end up on YouTube someday because I saved a kitten from a burning building or something wonderful, certainly not because I freaked out and verbally assaulted somebody who exposed their nose over their mask. Not my cup of tea.

I do enjoy the entertainment however, so I maybe I shouldn't discourage anyone.

[dice]

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

Not nearly as weird as preplanning social disobedience that endangers others, spreads a pandemic, and hastens the destruction of our economy in the name of some maliciously misguided and ignorant delusion of constitutional freedom.

Two weirds make it right?

I always hoped I'd end up on YouTube someday because I saved a kitten from a burning building or something wonderful, certainly not because I freaked out and verbally assaulted somebody who exposed their nose over their mask. Not my cup of tea.

perhaps you shouldn't be living your life based on how you would feel if it ended up on social media, but rather based on doing the right thing regardless of whether cameras are rolling

regardless, if the plan is to chew out everyone with an exposed nose, prepare to suffer from burnout, 'cause that's just an endless game of whack-a-mole. i would think that a perturbed glare should suffice

[JimmyButler21]

What Trump should have said from the very beginning is “Wear a mask and get back to work.”

He’d have a lot more credibility if he did. His anti mask posture is beyond dumb, wreckless, and screams incompetency.

Let us not forget that the CDC and WHO both said don’t wear a mask or you will touch it and get Covid. They were wrong.

Trump should have followed South Korea’s protocol. They masked up the whole time and have crushed Covid.

Trump called it a hoax and said it would go away when it first made it to the United States and he'll never admit he's wrong so he held that dumb stance way too long. Trump could have easily won re-election if he took the virus seriously from the beginning and acted like a leader.

[moorhosj]

qTwo weirds make it right?

I always hoped I'd end up on YouTube someday because I saved a kitten from a burning building or something wonderful, certainly not because I freaked out and verbally assaulted somebody who exposed their nose over their mask. Not my cup of tea.

I do enjoy the entertainment however, so I maybe I shouldn't discourage anyone.

Still supporting Gov DeSantis’ on COVID?

Did you see his emotional outbursts when questioned on his decisions? Great entertainment.

[League Circles]

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

Not nearly as weird as preplanning social disobedience that endangers others, spreads a pandemic, and hastens the destruction of our economy in the name of some maliciously misguided and ignorant delusion of constitutional freedom.

Two weirds make it right?

I always hoped I'd end up on YouTube someday because I saved a kitten from a burning building or something wonderful, certainly not because I freaked out and verbally assaulted somebody who exposed their nose over their mask. Not my cup of tea.

I do enjoy the entertainment however, so I maybe I shouldn't discourage anyone.

I see it as similar action to just casually drifting into budging people waiting in line somewhere is a way where you play and look dumb so that you ostensibly look like it was an accident but in reality the person knows exactly what they are doing. I don't like those people due to such attitudes, and I'm willing to appear weird so that I can have the pleasure of humiliating them. Honestly it's not really even about my safety I just hate the little stupid childish trick they're trying to play and how they're trying to manipulate all of us into accomodating them. Similar type attitudes are displayed on roadways everyday where people feel entitled to wildly violate common sense safety traffic laws for incredibly minor benefit. I lay into my horn for such people. Hopefully one day someone will try to fight me in a grocery store or something and hopefully I won't lose. But it's not an emotional outburst, it's a calculated attack against people I despise.

[Chi town]

What Trump should have said from the very beginning is “Wear a mask and get back to work.”

He’d have a lot more credibility if he did. His anti mask posture is beyond dumb, wreckless, and screams incompetency.

Let us not forget that the CDC and WHO both said don’t wear a mask or you will touch it and get Covid. They were wrong.

Trump should have followed South Korea’s protocol. They masked up the whole time and have crushed Covid.

Trump called it a hoax and said it would go away when it first made it to the United States and he'll never admit he's wrong so he held that dumb stance way too long. Trump could have easily won re-election if he took the virus seriously from the beginning and acted like a leader.

True.

It has been interesting to track Sweden. They have herd immunity now after being murdered by the media when they peaked. Close friend from Sweden has family in the medical community and some of the stories and articles I’ve read have been fascinating. I’ve pretty much lost all faith in the media.

[Dresden]

What Trump should have said from the very beginning is “Wear a mask and get back to work.”

He’d have a lot more credibility if he did. His anti mask posture is beyond dumb, wreckless, and screams incompetency.

Let us not forget that the CDC and WHO both said don’t wear a mask or you will touch it and get Covid. They were wrong.

Trump should have followed South Korea’s protocol. They masked up the whole time and have crushed Covid.

In his speech at the DNC, Biden said on day one he would issue a national mask wearing mandate. Pretty simple step to take, and enormously effective.

To Dice's point about social distancing- there was a case in Springfield MO, about two hair stylists who both tested positive. They worked for several days after feeling ill. But there was mask mandate in force at the time in MO, which they and their customers followed. They contact traced 139 people who were in the salon during the days when the stylists were sick, and not a single one tested positive. They chalk that up to wearing masks (and good hygiene). So even without social distancing, masks alone are very effective.

[DuckIII]

Preplanning an emotional outburst is a little weird.

Perhaps you are just venting here so you dont do it in people's faces.

Not nearly as weird as preplanning social disobedience that endangers others, spreads a pandemic, and hastens the destruction of our economy in the name of some maliciously misguided and ignorant delusion of constitutional freedom.

Two weirds make it right?

I always hoped I'd end up on YouTube someday because I saved a kitten from a burning building or something wonderful, certainly not because I freaked out and verbally assaulted somebody who exposed their nose over their mask. Not my cup of tea.

I do enjoy the entertainment however, so I maybe I shouldn't discourage anyone.

Who you crappin’? You don’t consider them both wrong.