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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#821 » by SparksFly87 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:22 pm

CP3 for Tobias has to happen. Just like a Hield type shooting guard shooter move.

We need a alpha who can be a voice for our young stars that they respect . Jimmy was close but Chris Paul is a HOF bounded player that commands things.

We need this badly.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#822 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:20 pm

Even if Paul doesn't fit with our stars, he only has 2 years left on his deal. This would be his last shot at winning a ring. I could see OKC taking Horford or Harris if their pick is included in the deal.

I'd prefer Holiday over Paul due to age but would gladly take either. There are avenues to acquiring either, even if it might be difficult.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#823 » by mhunt » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:27 pm

how bad is this?

horford, korkmaz, & scott to charlotte for scary terry & cody zeller? might have to be picks involved as well.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#824 » by Negrodamus » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:33 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Even if Paul doesn't fit with our stars, he only has 2 years left on his deal. This would be his last shot at winning a ring. I could see OKC taking Horford or Harris if their pick is included in the deal.

I'd prefer Holiday over Paul due to age but would gladly take either. There are avenues to acquiring either, even if it might be difficult.


It's a massive risk for us to take, but it makes sense. Two major players on the Thunder already have a rapport with Tobias when they were on the Clippers together and Tobi was scoring 20ppg: SGA and Gallinari.

CP3 knows he's not going to be winning anything on the Thunder, so there's an outside chance that he will check his ego at the door in an effort for one last attempt at a championship. Thunder hand the keys over to SGA and build around him.

Makes sense, but we could waste 2-3 years with CP3 sowing discord in the locker room or get hurt. Not a great situation to be in, but hey, we signed two mediocre players to massive contracts!
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#825 » by Mik317 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:45 pm

in 2 years, we will probably have to process again anyway so **** it lol
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#826 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:02 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Even if Paul doesn't fit with our stars, he only has 2 years left on his deal. This would be his last shot at winning a ring. I could see OKC taking Horford or Harris if their pick is included in the deal.

I'd prefer Holiday over Paul due to age but would gladly take either. There are avenues to acquiring either, even if it might be difficult.


It's a massive risk for us to take, but it makes sense. Two major players on the Thunder already have a rapport with Tobias when they were on the Clippers together and Tobi was scoring 20ppg: SGA and Gallinari.

CP3 knows he's not going to be winning anything on the Thunder, so there's an outside chance that he will check his ego at the door in an effort for one last attempt at a championship. Thunder hand the keys over to SGA and build around him.

Makes sense, but we could waste 2-3 years with CP3 sowing discord in the locker room or get hurt. Not a great situation to be in, but hey, we signed two mediocre players to massive contracts!


You hit the nail on the head. It sucks to think we're in a desperate situation given all we started with, but here we are. We just have to make the best of what's left.

SGA/Schroder
Dort/Ferguson
Harris/Roberson
Gallo/Harris
Adams/Noel

Just to see how it looks from an OKC perspective. It could work, I just worry about what additional compensation they'd ask for. Harris + #34 + #58 would be ideal. It'd be a tough pill to swallow to trade them back their pick after lucking out at #21. I'd prefer to use it to acquire someone else like Holiday, Hield, or LaVine. We could then use #36 and #49 on depth.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#827 » by Sportfan73 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:14 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Even if Paul doesn't fit with our stars, he only has 2 years left on his deal. This would be his last shot at winning a ring. I could see OKC taking Horford or Harris if their pick is included in the deal.

I'd prefer Holiday over Paul due to age but would gladly take either. There are avenues to acquiring either, even if it might be difficult.


It's a massive risk for us to take, but it makes sense. Two major players on the Thunder already have a rapport with Tobias when they were on the Clippers together and Tobi was scoring 20ppg: SGA and Gallinari.

CP3 knows he's not going to be winning anything on the Thunder, so there's an outside chance that he will check his ego at the door in an effort for one last attempt at a championship. Thunder hand the keys over to SGA and build around him.

Makes sense, but we could waste 2-3 years with CP3 sowing discord in the locker room or get hurt. Not a great situation to be in, but hey, we signed two mediocre players to massive contracts!


You hit the nail on the head. It sucks to think we're in a desperate situation given all we started with, but here we are. We just have to make the best of what's left.

SGA/Schroder
Dort/Ferguson
Harris/Roberson
Gallo/Harris
Adams/Noel

Just to see how it looks from an OKC perspective. It could work, I just worry about what additional compensation they'd ask for. Harris + #34 + #58 would be ideal. It'd be a tough pill to swallow to trade them back their pick after lucking out at #21. I'd prefer to use it to acquire someone else like Hield or LaVine. We could then use #36 and #49 on depth.

Rather have cp3
We can get hield separately
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#828 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:23 pm

Trade 1: Harris + #34 + #58 for Paul

Trade 2: Horford + Richardson + Smith + #21 + 2022 1st (top 10 protected) for Holiday + Redick


Paul(32)/Holiday(16)
Holiday(18)/Redick(24)/Thybulle(6)
Korkmaz(24)/Thybulle(24)
Simmons(34)/Scott(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Paul/Milton/Micic
Holiday/Redick/#49
Korkmaz/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#36
Embiid/MLE/Pelle
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#829 » by Mik317 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:40 pm

Thunder probably can get better for Paul

due to his name and rep.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#830 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:04 pm

I could see the Bucks making a play for him, but the only package that works is Bledsoe + Brook + Illyasova. Not sure if either team would do that.

Then there's the Heat. Since Goran is expiring, their package would look like Iguodala + Hill + small filler. Again, don't see how that's a desirable trade for either team.

Lastly, there's the Clippers. Beverly + Lou + Zubac + McGruder. A very odd package that neither team would pursue.

If you're making a move for CP3, it's to win-now. Who else would even be interested in him?

I don't think we have much competition for him other than OKC just hanging onto him for 2 more years...
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#831 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:12 pm

Trade 1: Harris + #34 + #58 for Paul

Trade 2: Richardson + Scott + Zhaire + #21 + 2021 NYK 2nd for LaVine


Paul(30)/Milton(18)
LaVine(33)/Korkmaz(15)
MLE(20)/Thybulle(28)
Simmons(34)/Horford(10)/MLE(4)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)


Paul/Milton/Micic
LaVine/Korkmaz/#49
MLE/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Vet/#36
Embiid/Horford/Pelle
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#832 » by zimpy27 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:36 pm

Philly in: CP3, THJ, Powell
Philly out: Harris, Horford + 2 2nds
CP3, THJ, J-Rich, Simmons, Embiid
Milton, Korkmaz, Thybulle, Ennis, Scott, Powell

OKC in: Harris + 2 2nds
OKC out: CP3

Mavs in: Horford
Mavs out: Powell, THJ
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#833 » by stormi » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:06 am

Most of these deals must be an easy no from the other side because I'm way too excited to accept them
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#834 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:46 am

I have a hard time finding any team in this league that will be willing to work with us on a trade for Harris. We're most certainly stuck with at least one of him or Horford. If I had to pick one to be stuck with, it would be Horford because he's clearly good insurance for when Embiid gets his yearly injury(s)...And he can function with Simmons. We don't lose much. Harris is the player I would desperately try and move. There aren't many offers out there. We'd most certainly have to give up a draft pick or two to get Chris Paul, but I would do it, just to rid us of that monstrous contract that Harris has.

The Kings make a potentially good trade partner if we could get Hield in return. I'm not sure how it would work money wise, but Harris is a potential fit out west with them. Same with Denver. Our options are extremely slim with trading Harris right now. I'm not so sure it can be done without giving up a ton of draft picks. I'd really like for us to hold on to that #21 pick if at all possible. We're going to need as much youth as we can get, but if trading that pick washes our hands of Harris we may not have a choice. Talk to me in a few months, but as of right now, he has absolutely got to go this offseason as soon as possible.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#835 » by Arsenal » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:52 am

I don't think we can find any reasonable way to dump Harris without burning a ton of assets in the process. We're stuck with him I'm afraid, which means another year or two of Simmons and Embiid's prime burned away with no chance to compete because of $35M/yr FLUSHED.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#836 » by Sam Hinkie » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:00 am

Philadelphia In

Chris Paul
Jrue Holiday
JJ Redick
PJ Washington
Meli

Philadelphia Out

Ben Simmons
Tobias Harris
Al Horford
2020 1st

Charlotte In

Simmons
Harris

Charlotte Out

Cody Zeller
Nik Batum
Terry Rozier
PJ Washington
3rd Overall Pick

Pelicans In

3rd Overall Pick
Nik Batum
Zeller

Pelicans Out

JJ Redick
Jrue Holiday
Meli
Future 1st

Thunder In

Al Horford
Terry Rozier
Phi 1st
NO future 1st

Thunder Out

Chris Paul

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PG- Chris Paul, Shake Milton
SG- Jrue Holiday, Redick, Zhaire
SF- Josh Richardson
PF- Matisse Thybulle, PJ Washington
C- Joel Embiid, Meli
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#837 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:10 am

I'm pretty comfortable attaching Thybulle to deals if the return is right.

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#838 » by Sam Hinkie » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:17 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Trade 1: Harris + #34 + #58 for Paul

Trade 2: Horford + Richardson + Smith + #21 + 2022 1st (top 10 protected) for Holiday + Redick


Paul(32)/Holiday(16)
Holiday(18)/Redick(24)/Thybulle(6)
Korkmaz(24)/Thybulle(24)
Simmons(34)/Scott(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Paul/Milton/Micic
Holiday/Redick/#49
Korkmaz/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#36
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


This is by far the best case offseason. But, both deals are going to be rejected. Harris is one of the worst contracts in the league.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#839 » by DT RAW » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:19 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Trade 1: Harris + #34 + #58 for Paul

Trade 2: Horford + Richardson + Smith + #21 + 2022 1st (top 10 protected) for Holiday + Redick


Paul(32)/Holiday(16)
Holiday(18)/Redick(24)/Thybulle(6)
Korkmaz(24)/Thybulle(24)
Simmons(34)/Scott(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Paul/Milton/Micic
Holiday/Redick/#49
Korkmaz/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#36
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


this is by far I think my favorite I've seen, well done. However I think you start shake at the 3 in that roster minutes break down. He gets thybulle's 6 at SG, another 4 from him at SF, and 12 from korkmaz's... for a total of 22 minutes for shake. That's a good team with the RIGHT HEAD COACH to run PnR and the correct hedging or switching defense
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#840 » by Sam Hinkie » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:20 am

It is by far the best. But, both trades aren't happening. Do you guys realize how toxic Horford and Harris's contracts are?

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