2020 NBA Draft prospects

[TheAlanParsons]

The obvious comp for Edwards is Wiggins. Not sure why Minny would want to relive that nightmare. Jesus, he commented during the lotto that he learned at Georgia not to care much about his bad games!

I thought he said he learned how to bounce back from bad games.

Well, I just rewatched it, and he said he had a lot of bad games and he learned to just take it and move on. Still not very eciting to me. #1 I'd prefer someone who didn't have a lot of bad games, and #2 I'd prefer if it DID piss them off.

[Neeva]

Talent is talent, people wrote off Reddish last draft and he had a worse freshman season than Edwards and now everyone wants Reddish.. trust the coaches to develop
Talent.

[whatisacenter]

Warriors fan here, congrats to you guys for winning the lottery, I'm pretty stoked to have my team in the top two. Curious to hear who your fanbase is highest on out of the top 3 Wiseman/Edwards/Ball? Any consensus on whether it's most likely you keep the pick or trade it? I think the most likely scenario for the Warriors is to trade our pick + TPE for an established player or trade down in the draft for a role player + pick. I look forward to our teams playing meaningful games in the future and not sitting on the sidelines during the bubble.

[KGdaBom]

The obvious comp for Edwards is Wiggins. Not sure why Minny would want to relive that nightmare. Jesus, he commented during the lotto that he learned at Georgia not to care much about his bad games!

I thought he said he learned how to bounce back from bad games.

Well, I just rewatched it, and he said he had a lot of bad games and he learned to just take it and move on. Still not very eciting to me. #1 I'd prefer someone who didn't have a lot of bad games, and #2 I'd prefer if it DID piss them off.

You're obviously in the same camp as me believing he is the wrong choice. I just don't want to be unfair to him either. If I were to bet on who our pick will be I would bet on Edwards. I think I would have remembered him saying not to care much about bad games, but maybe not. A comment like that doesn't bother me because I get how to take it positively. What can we do on October 16 other than get on board the Edwards Express and ride it to it's destination?

[Norseman79]

Warriors fan here, congrats to you guys for winning the lottery, I'm pretty stoked to have my team in the top two. Curious to hear who your fanbase is highest on out of the top 3 Wiseman/Edwards/Ball? Any consensus on whether it's most likely you keep the pick or trade it? I think the most likely scenario for the Warriors is to trade our pick + TPE for an established player or trade down in the draft for a role player + pick. I look forward to our teams playing meaningful games in the future and not sitting on the sidelines during the bubble.

Honestly, I think Rosas is playing chess. We could probably go with any of the three, though it seems most fans lean toward Edwards. The reason I say chess is that I am certain he has a few scenarios set up of "if X then Y, but if W then Z" variety. For example, if we resign Beasley then Wiseman, not saying that is the scenario, but an example. Rosa's seems to be a planner, so it will be interesting. Obviously Booker or Simmons are pie in the sky hopes for a trade. Personally I am Wiseman then Edwards in my ranking of picks

[KGdaBom]

Warriors fan here, congrats to you guys for winning the lottery, I'm pretty stoked to have my team in the top two. Curious to hear who your fanbase is highest on out of the top 3 Wiseman/Edwards/Ball? Any consensus on whether it's most likely you keep the pick or trade it? I think the most likely scenario for the Warriors is to trade our pick + TPE for an established player or trade down in the draft for a role player + pick. I look forward to our teams playing meaningful games in the future and not sitting on the sidelines during the bubble.

I don't at all buy into those being the top three. Wiseman yes, Edwards and Ball with horrible shooting and no defense no.
Wiseman would be my preferred pick for us and IMO is by far the best pick for you. If we decide not to take Wiseman I hope we can trade down to Charlotte and get an asset like PJ Washington thrown in. If you guys don't want Wiseman that's perfect for you. If you do want Wiseman maybe we swap with you if you give us next years pick back.

[Domejandro]

The obvious comp for Edwards is Wiggins. Not sure why Minny would want to relive that nightmare. Jesus, he commented during the lotto that he learned at Georgia not to care much about his bad games!

I have to be the jerk here, that comp is actually abysmal. Wiggins was excruciatingly passive, which has never been a concern with Edwards.

With respect, I don’t think a lot of you understand/appreciate the dynamic of that Georgia team. I have criticisms of him, but people are missing the mark badly here.

[TheZachAttack]

Man, Wiseman might be an Anthony Davis type-level big man prospect. He’s so huge, so long, and moves so well... he’s going to be a problem on the defensive end forsure.

I didn’t realize just how dominant his numbers were (small sample size) in his 3 games at Memphis. Per 36 minutes his averages were:

-31 points (77% FG%)
-17 rebounds (6.7 offensive)
-14 free throw attempts (70% FT)
-4.7 blocks

-150 ortg/ 81 drtg

This includes a 23/18 (6 offensive rebounds) 2 blocks per 36 game against a top 15 team Oregon. If he put up those types of numbers for a whole season...

That’s pretty insane, if he can work out to the corners as a spot up 3 point shooter (he already has good touch out to 18 feet) he could be an absolute monster. Now obviously his sample size was small, but I think he could be a little bit overlooked because we haven’t really seen him.

Now the biggest issue is that Rosas’s philosophy is to maximize his best player. The player who will have to make the most concessions is the Wolves best player. In addition, matchups that Towns creates that makes him so valuable (like forcing opposing 5’s to come out the perimeter and away from the rim) would be taken away. Towns would also be pushed further and more consistently out to the perimeter which is a little bit worrying.

However, I think people might be underselling Wiseman a little bit.

[KGdaBom]

The obvious comp for Edwards is Wiggins. Not sure why Minny would want to relive that nightmare. Jesus, he commented during the lotto that he learned at Georgia not to care much about his bad games!

I have to be the jerk here, that comp is actually abysmal. Wiggins was excruciatingly passive, which has never been a concern with Edwards.

With respect, I don’t think a lot of you understand/appreciate the dynamic of that Georgia team. I have criticisms of him, but people are missing the mark badly here.

Wiggins wasn't passive when it came to taking shots. He took more than KAT and Butler.

[Jedzz]

The obvious comp for Edwards is Wiggins. Not sure why Minny would want to relive that nightmare. Jesus, he commented during the lotto that he learned at Georgia not to care much about his bad games!

I thought he said he learned how to bounce back from bad games.

Well, I just rewatched it, and he said he had a lot of bad games and he learned to just take it and move on. Still not very eciting to me. #1 I'd prefer someone who didn't have a lot of bad games, and #2 I'd prefer if it DID piss them off.

Anger at oneself rarely leads to better focus and improvement. So I don't like it for shooting. I think that is why kids are told to brush it off and carry on as if the bad didn't happen. But yeah if they keep having bad outings and that is the same answer over and over, Wiggins ish, it might be a concern. It would be nice to hear them talk about what they are trying to do to fix an issue or two. Otherwise we might think they are doing nothing but moving on. Throw the dogs a bone and avoid that assumption.

I would point to someone like Kelan Martin who gets angry at himself shooting after a couple missess and can visibly see him huffing and puffing and the coach quickly yanks him out. Because it's not going to get prettier in that mode.

[Neeva]

Man, Wiseman might be an Anthony Davis type-level big man prospect. He’s so huge, so long, and moves so well... he’s going to be a problem on the defensive end forsure.

I didn’t realize just how dominant his numbers were (small sample size) in his 3 games at Memphis. Per 36 minutes his averages were:

-31 points (77% FG%)
-17 rebounds (6.7 offensive)
-14 free throw attempts (70% FT)
-4.7 blocks

-150 ortg/ 81 drtg

This includes a 23/18 (6 offensive rebounds) 2 blocks per 36 game against a top 15 team Oregon. If he put up those types of numbers for a whole season...

That’s pretty insane, if he can work out to the corners as a spot up 3 point shooter (he already has good touch out to 18 feet) he could be an absolute monster. Now obviously his sample size was small, but I think he could be a little bit overlooked because we haven’t really seen him.

Now the biggest issue is that Rosas’s philosophy is to maximize his best player. The player who will have to make the most concessions is the Wolves best player. In addition, matchups that Towns creates that makes him so valuable (like forcing opposing 5’s to come out the perimeter and away from the rim) would be taken away. Towns would also be pushed further and more consistently out to the perimeter which is a little bit worrying.

However, I think people might be underselling Wiseman a little bit.

Don’t be surprised to see wolves hype up Wiseman.
I think Wiseman will be a solid pro but honestly I would take Edwards and our 2021 pick returned back anyday.
I also think wiseman will lose value after he is taken number 1 (like Ayton) cause bigmen who can’t shoot threes are just not as valuable in the league right now.

[whatisacenter]

Warriors fan here, congrats to you guys for winning the lottery, I'm pretty stoked to have my team in the top two. Curious to hear who your fanbase is highest on out of the top 3 Wiseman/Edwards/Ball? Any consensus on whether it's most likely you keep the pick or trade it? I think the most likely scenario for the Warriors is to trade our pick + TPE for an established player or trade down in the draft for a role player + pick. I look forward to our teams playing meaningful games in the future and not sitting on the sidelines during the bubble.

I don't at all buy into those being the top three. Wiseman yes, Edwards and Ball with horrible shooting and no defense no.
Wiseman would be my preferred pick for us and IMO is by far the best pick for you. If we decide not to take Wiseman I hope we can trade down to Charlotte and get an asset like PJ Washington thrown in. If you guys don't want Wiseman that's perfect for you. If you do want Wiseman maybe we swap with you if you give us next years pick back.

Yeah this is a tough draft to rank the players confidently, I see a lot of players to like throughout the draft but not one to love at the top. Like you I kind of like Wiseman the best because he seems the safest pick but I worry he will just end up an average motor rim runner.

I really can't see a scenario with the Warriors wanting to trade up with no clear number 1 pick.

[TheZachAttack]

Man, Wiseman might be an Anthony Davis type-level big man prospect. He’s so huge, so long, and moves so well... he’s going to be a problem on the defensive end forsure.

I didn’t realize just how dominant his numbers were (small sample size) in his 3 games at Memphis. Per 36 minutes his averages were:

-31 points (77% FG%)
-17 rebounds (6.7 offensive)
-14 free throw attempts (70% FT)
-4.7 blocks

-150 ortg/ 81 drtg

This includes a 23/18 (6 offensive rebounds) 2 blocks per 36 game against a top 15 team Oregon. If he put up those types of numbers for a whole season...

That’s pretty insane, if he can work out to the corners as a spot up 3 point shooter (he already has good touch out to 18 feet) he could be an absolute monster. Now obviously his sample size was small, but I think he could be a little bit overlooked because we haven’t really seen him.

Now the biggest issue is that Rosas’s philosophy is to maximize his best player. The player who will have to make the most concessions is the Wolves best player. In addition, matchups that Towns creates that makes him so valuable (like forcing opposing 5’s to come out the perimeter and away from the rim) would be taken away. Towns would also be pushed further and more consistently out to the perimeter which is a little bit worrying.

However, I think people might be underselling Wiseman a little bit.

Don’t be surprised to see wolves hype up Wiseman.
I think Wiseman will be a solid pro but honestly I would take Edwards and our 2021 pick returned back anyday.
I also think wiseman will lose value after he is taken number 1 (like Ayton) cause bigmen who can’t shoot threes are just not as valuable in the league right now.

It seems like to me that Wiseman could shoot perimeter jumpers once he develops. He’s got really good touch on his jumpshot he just doesn’t have the range yet. I think he will, especially if he models himself off of like a Chris Bosh.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Warriors fan here, congrats to you guys for winning the lottery, I'm pretty stoked to have my team in the top two. Curious to hear who your fanbase is highest on out of the top 3 Wiseman/Edwards/Ball? Any consensus on whether it's most likely you keep the pick or trade it? I think the most likely scenario for the Warriors is to trade our pick + TPE for an established player or trade down in the draft for a role player + pick. I look forward to our teams playing meaningful games in the future and not sitting on the sidelines during the bubble.

Tough to tell. I’d say it’s probably leans towards Edwards in who we want and who we’ll take.


National media is pounding the Edwards narrative. And yes I don’t think Malik Beasley should be used as a cornerstone of this team. Drafting wiseman means we can keep MB to hit his 3 pointers. Drafting Edwards means we probably move MB to the bench or let him walk but still have a front line after KAT that’s mainly back ups on playoff teams or D-leaguers.

Wiseman gives us potentially 2 7 footers under 25 that are springy. Almost unheard of these days in the nba.

[Klomp]

One thing I want to at least partially keep in mind is how Gersson Rosas tends to think of a lot of players as trade assets. Right or wrong, it's something that happens a lot in Houston and I feel like it has carried over here.

Because of that, I'm not sure Wiseman would be the wise choice. Especially if Devin Booker would be the ultimate trade target down the road. Rosas said he was holding off on other free agent PGs last summer because he wanted "that point guard" (D'Angelo Russell). Does he feel the same way about Devin Booker? If so, Wiseman would not be the most appealing trade asset for a team that already has DeAndre Ayton holding down the center position.

[Dewey]

Warriors fan here, congrats to you guys for winning the lottery, I'm pretty stoked to have my team in the top two. Curious to hear who your fanbase is highest on out of the top 3 Wiseman/Edwards/Ball? Any consensus on whether it's most likely you keep the pick or trade it? I think the most likely scenario for the Warriors is to trade our pick + TPE for an established player or trade down in the draft for a role player + pick. I look forward to our teams playing meaningful games in the future and not sitting on the sidelines during the bubble.

Tough to tell. I’d say it’s probably leans towards Edwards in who we want and who we’ll take.


National media is pounding the Edwards narrative. And yes I don’t think Malik Beasley should be used as a cornerstone of this team. Drafting wiseman means we can keep MB to hit his 3 pointers. Drafting Edwards means we probably move MB to the bench or let him walk but still have a front line after KAT that’s mainly back ups on playoff teams or D-leaguers.

Wiseman gives us potentially 2 7 footers under 25 that are springy. Almost unheard of these days in the nba.

The “Beasley Factor” is one that I have forgotten ... Beasley & Edwards would make Okogie & Culver trade assets along with #17 for a SF/PF. Rosas will likely look at the trade down options most IMO to acquire a key asset to help improve our team depth

Nonetheless I look at things this way...
1. Use pick 1 and 17 ... least likely
2. Trade pick(s) ... I can see trading 1 of the picks
3. Trade down ... Most likely scenario IMO

[Baseline81]

I have to be the jerk here, that comp is actually abysmal. Wiggins was excruciatingly passive, which has never been a concern with Edwards.

With respect, I don’t think a lot of you understand/appreciate the dynamic of that Georgia team. I have criticisms of him, but people are missing the mark badly here.

You pointed to one aspect of Wiggins.

I posted this in another thread, but I'll bring it back here. Obviously, they're not the same as prospects, but there are similarities between Edwards and Wiggins. Right or wrong, I am scared you-know-what of ending up with another player of that ilk.

Based on what I've read and seen:
- Edwards, like Wiggins, has an iso-heavy offensive approach. Can he play off the ball?
- Edwards, like Wiggins, relies too much on his pull-up jumper for his offense. The numbers on that are not great.
- Edwards, like Wiggins, has questions about his motor.
- The potential of Edwards, like Wiggins, lies in his physical tools. What skill can you point to?

[KGdaBom]

Warriors fan here, congrats to you guys for winning the lottery, I'm pretty stoked to have my team in the top two. Curious to hear who your fanbase is highest on out of the top 3 Wiseman/Edwards/Ball? Any consensus on whether it's most likely you keep the pick or trade it? I think the most likely scenario for the Warriors is to trade our pick + TPE for an established player or trade down in the draft for a role player + pick. I look forward to our teams playing meaningful games in the future and not sitting on the sidelines during the bubble.

I don't at all buy into those being the top three. Wiseman yes, Edwards and Ball with horrible shooting and no defense no.
Wiseman would be my preferred pick for us and IMO is by far the best pick for you. If we decide not to take Wiseman I hope we can trade down to Charlotte and get an asset like PJ Washington thrown in. If you guys don't want Wiseman that's perfect for you. If you do want Wiseman maybe we swap with you if you give us next years pick back.

Yeah this is a tough draft to rank the players confidently, I see a lot of players to like throughout the draft but not one to love at the top. Like you I kind of like Wiseman the best because he seems the safest pick but I worry he will just end up an average motor rim runner.

I really can't see a scenario with the Warriors wanting to trade up with no clear number 1 pick.

For the Warriors there is a clear #1 pick. It's Wiseman. Every other spot is filled. He is beyond obvious the best draft pick for them. If we want Wiseman draft him. If we don't offer him to Charlotte who would obviously take him. Then let the Warriors know that if they want him they have to pony up.

[Baseline81]

One thing I want to at least partially keep in mind is how Gersson Rosas tends to think of a lot of players as trade assets. Right or wrong, it's something that happens a lot in Houston and I feel like it has carried over here.

Because of that, I'm not sure Wiseman would be the wise choice. Especially if Devin Booker would be the ultimate trade target down the road. Rosas said he was holding off on other free agent PGs last summer because he wanted "that point guard" (D'Angelo Russell). Does he feel the same way about Devin Booker? If so, Wiseman would not be the most appealing trade asset for a team that already has DeAndre Ayton holding down the center position.

I agree with this premise. Both Ball and Edwards would likely hold their value for a longer period simply because the devaluation of centers in the modern NBA.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he selected either Ball or Edwards with the intention of dealing them draft night or later for that star alongside Russell and Towns.

[Neeva]

One thing I want to at least partially keep in mind is how Gersson Rosas tends to think of a lot of players as trade assets. Right or wrong, it's something that happens a lot in Houston and I feel like it has carried over here.

Because of that, I'm not sure Wiseman would be the wise choice. Especially if Devin Booker would be the ultimate trade target down the road. Rosas said he was holding off on other free agent PGs last summer because he wanted "that point guard" (D'Angelo Russell). Does he feel the same way about Devin Booker? If so, Wiseman would not be the most appealing trade asset for a team that already has DeAndre Ayton holding down the center position.

I agree with this premise. Both Ball and Edwards would likely hold their value for a longer period simply because the devaluation of centers in the modern NBA.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he selected either Ball or Edwards with the intention of dealing them draft night or later for that star alongside Russell and Towns.

I feel that is why he drafted Culver over White last year also.