Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[vincecarter4pres]

How bout a few outside the box ones?

Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert

Charlotte sends:
PJ Washington
Malik Monk


Brooklyn sends:
Caris LeVert

Chicago sends:
Lauri Markkanen
Wendell Carter Jr


Brooklyn sends:
19th overall pick
Musa

OKC sends:
Darius Bazley

Do any of those moves give us a better shot at a 2021 championship? Nope

I was mainly throwing **** at a wall to see what sticks, but I wouldn't say a quick and outright nope to the first 2.

PJ Washington could be exactly what we're looking for at the 4, even if it is only his second year in the league next season and Malik Monk is a so-so minute eater throw-in to match salary, but he has a hair of potential left.

Lauri Markkanen and Carter can both come in and play big roles right away, especially if Allen was dealt in a prior deal.

But I'd mainly agree to stay away from these deals.

[vincecarter4pres]

So let's just say for fun we did acquire Beal and the trade looked something like this:

LeVert
Allen
Claxton
Rodi
Sixers pick
'21 BK pick top 5 protected


Maybe we've been jumping the gun on the Sixers, or they deal Embiid to GSW for the #2.

Do we turn around and deal Prince, Temple and Musa for Al Horford? I get his contract is kinda gross, but he'd be a perfect fit at the 5 here and you're sending out dead weight in Prince and expiring sort of dead weight in Temple and Musa.


Kyrie
Beal
KD
Free agent like Melo, Millsap, Jeff Green, etc.
Al Horford

Bench Mob:
Dinwiddie
Harris
Jordan
Cheese
TLC
TJ

[TheNetsFan]

So let's just say for fun we did acquire Beal and the trade looked something like this:

LeVert
Allen
Claxton
Rodi
Sixers pick
'21 BK pick top 5 protected


Maybe we've been jumping the gun on the Sixers, or they deal Embiid to GSW for the #2.

Do we turn around and deal Prince, Temple and Musa for Al Horford? I get his contract is kinda gross, but he'd be a perfect fit at the 5 here and you're sending out dead weight in Prince and expiring sort of dead weight in Temple and Musa.


Kyrie
Beal
KD
Free agent like Melo, Millsap, Jeff Green, etc.
Al Horford

Bench Mob:
Dinwiddie
Harris
Jordan
Cheese
TLC
TJ

Billy King, is that you? Hell no, you don't touch that Horford contract. That's nearly $40mil per year for 3 years of over the hill Jordan & Horford, both of whom play a dying position that most teams try to save money on.

[vincecarter4pres]

So let's just say for fun we did acquire Beal and the trade looked something like this:

LeVert
Allen
Claxton
Rodi
Sixers pick
'21 BK pick top 5 protected


Maybe we've been jumping the gun on the Sixers, or they deal Embiid to GSW for the #2.

Do we turn around and deal Prince, Temple and Musa for Al Horford? I get his contract is kinda gross, but he'd be a perfect fit at the 5 here and you're sending out dead weight in Prince and expiring sort of dead weight in Temple and Musa.


Kyrie
Beal
KD
Free agent like Melo, Millsap, Jeff Green, etc.
Al Horford

Bench Mob:
Dinwiddie
Harris
Jordan
Cheese
TLC
TJ

Billy King, is that you? Hell no, you don't touch that Horford contract. That's nearly $40mil per year for 3 years of over the hill Jordan & Horford, both of whom play a dying position that most teams try to save money on.

Jordan is a sunken cost at this point and he actually played pretty well this year, but he shouldn’t be out there more than 20-25 mpg.

If Allen is dealt in a different deal you can’t just say F it and not improve the center position.

Billy King would trade for horford, but he’d add all kinds of unprotected 1st round picks.

Even with Beal this team would have a 3 year window as constructed post trade, Horford and Jordan fit that just fine and provide 2 nice expirings in the final years of their respective contracts.

Prince’s contract is much smaller than Al’s, but it’s still bad salary you’re at least swapping out for a better player/fit.

[vincecarter4pres]

Assuming other moves are already made with Caris and/or Dinwiddie, but not these players/picks:


Rodi/Musa/Prince/19th overall/2 best of 4 ‘21 2nd’s we own

For

Curry/Kleber

[gambakupu]

Assuming other moves are already made with Caris and/or Dinwiddie, but not these players/picks:


Rodi/Musa/Prince/19th overall/2 best of 4 ‘21 2nd’s we own

For

Curry/Kleber

I wish. Doubt the Mavs will agree

[CalamityX12]

Back in the, who can we target via FA or trade days before KD n KI.... I among the few who vouched and vouched to acquire Beal(this was even before he signed his max too).... with that said, my favor and likings of him as a player doesn’t changed however I kinda don’t see the fit with Kyrie and Kevin here TBH.

On paper, names look great but really, from my opinion, I expect Kyrie and Kevin to have the ball in their hands and dictate the pace and direction of the offense(and for good reasons).... Shooters like a Joe Harris, defenders like a Caris or Jalen Brown(Draymond for Kevin) are the guys they need. Until playoffs, I don’t expect Kevin or Kyrie to be those hustling guys anymore(especially they have their chip).

So having three potential guys out there, other than Kevin, not the best sorts of energy defenders... not sure it makes sense IMO.

[TheNetsFan]

Back in the, who can we target via FA or trade days before KD n KI.... I among the few who vouched and vouched to acquire Beal(this was even before he signed his max too).... with that said, my favor and likings of him as a player doesn’t changed however I kinda don’t see the fit with Kyrie and Kevin here TBH.

On paper, names look great but really, from my opinion, I expect Kyrie and Kevin to have the ball in their hands and dictate the pace and direction of the offense(and for good reasons).... Shooters like a Joe Harris, defenders like a Caris or Jalen Brown(Draymond for Kevin) are the guys they need. Until playoffs, I don’t expect Kevin or Kyrie to be those hustling guys anymore(especially they have their chip).

So having three potential guys out there, other than Kevin, not the best sorts of energy defenders... not sure it makes sense IMO.

Beal was a very good catch and shoot 3 point shooter when Wall was healthy. There's no reason to believe he couldn't be an elite off ball player with Kyrie and KD.

[Claud]

Back in the, who can we target via FA or trade days before KD n KI.... I among the few who vouched and vouched to acquire Beal(this was even before he signed his max too).... with that said, my favor and likings of him as a player doesn’t changed however I kinda don’t see the fit with Kyrie and Kevin here TBH.

On paper, names look great but really, from my opinion, I expect Kyrie and Kevin to have the ball in their hands and dictate the pace and direction of the offense(and for good reasons).... Shooters like a Joe Harris, defenders like a Caris or Jalen Brown(Draymond for Kevin) are the guys they need. Until playoffs, I don’t expect Kevin or Kyrie to be those hustling guys anymore(especially they have their chip).

So having three potential guys out there, other than Kevin, not the best sorts of energy defenders... not sure it makes sense IMO.

Beal was a very good catch and shoot 3 point shooter when Wall was healthy. There's no reason to believe he couldn't be an elite off ball player with Kyrie and KD.

Beal was a 35% 3pt shooter this season. Not great but good.

Is giving up Allen, Vert, Widdie, pick, etc worth Beal? I think not.

I love his game and I am opened to make a move but not for the entire farm.

If we were talking about Embiid, AD, etc caliber of player than I'd be down to cash in our young players to make a great trio with KD-Kyrie-Embiid/AD let's say.

Beal is a really good player but not HOF. I'd give them one of Vert/Din + picks + filler and no more.

[DarkXaero]

Back in the, who can we target via FA or trade days before KD n KI.... I among the few who vouched and vouched to acquire Beal(this was even before he signed his max too).... with that said, my favor and likings of him as a player doesn’t changed however I kinda don’t see the fit with Kyrie and Kevin here TBH.

On paper, names look great but really, from my opinion, I expect Kyrie and Kevin to have the ball in their hands and dictate the pace and direction of the offense(and for good reasons).... Shooters like a Joe Harris, defenders like a Caris or Jalen Brown(Draymond for Kevin) are the guys they need. Until playoffs, I don’t expect Kevin or Kyrie to be those hustling guys anymore(especially they have their chip).

So having three potential guys out there, other than Kevin, not the best sorts of energy defenders... not sure it makes sense IMO.

Beal was a very good catch and shoot 3 point shooter when Wall was healthy. There's no reason to believe he couldn't be an elite off ball player with Kyrie and KD.

Beal was a 35% 3pt shooter this season. Not great but good.

Is giving up Allen, Vert, Widdie, pick, etc worth Beal? I think not.

I love his game and I am opened to make a move but not for the entire farm.

If we were talking about Embiid, AD, etc caliber of player than I'd be down to cash in our young players to make a great trio with KD-Kyrie-Embiid/AD let's say.

Beal is a really good player but not HOF. I'd give them one of Vert/Din + picks + filler and no more.

Beal has been a very good catch & shoot 3 pt guy in his career, and used to shoot over 40% on them on high volume. For whatever reason, the percentage has dropped these last two seasons, but he still shot 38% on those 3s this year. Maybe with less on ball work, that percentage gets back up to 40% but either way, you can expect high 30s (38%) on those 3s. Combined with his now advanced scoring game, the Nets offense would be unstoppable with Beal, KD, Kyrie. I don't think we need to give up Dinwiddie for Beal either because Dinwiddie is an expiring contract, and Wall is expected to come back and doesn't fit with Dinwiddie at all. A package of Levert, Allen, other smaller assets (like Kurucs) + a bunch of firsts (like four minimum) is a competitive offer.

[CalamityX12]

Back in the, who can we target via FA or trade days before KD n KI.... I among the few who vouched and vouched to acquire Beal(this was even before he signed his max too).... with that said, my favor and likings of him as a player doesn’t changed however I kinda don’t see the fit with Kyrie and Kevin here TBH.

On paper, names look great but really, from my opinion, I expect Kyrie and Kevin to have the ball in their hands and dictate the pace and direction of the offense(and for good reasons).... Shooters like a Joe Harris, defenders like a Caris or Jalen Brown(Draymond for Kevin) are the guys they need. Until playoffs, I don’t expect Kevin or Kyrie to be those hustling guys anymore(especially they have their chip).

So having three potential guys out there, other than Kevin, not the best sorts of energy defenders... not sure it makes sense IMO.

Beal was a very good catch and shoot 3 point shooter when Wall was healthy. There's no reason to believe he couldn't be an elite off ball player with Kyrie and KD.

Offensively that’s another mouth to feed at a high cost.... but does Beal bring the defensive intensity and smarts that the incumbents need?

Just thinking, if it’s Kyrie, Durant, Beal, DJ and PF X... is that a real good defensive unit?

[DarkXaero]

New Jackie MacMullan piece on the Nets:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29726687/nba-playoffs-new-challenge-awaits-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-brooklyn-nets

So this article has undergone a bunch of weird revisions. It originally said that KD and Kyrie have committed to the Nets and they won't use their player options in year 3.



However as I was writing this post, I realized that this part has been removed from the article, and its not the only thing taken out of the article. Originally, the article had Jason Kidd as the high profile coach that KD & Kyrie are interested in, and Kidd's name got replaced by Pop. Not sure what to make of it but if the part about them not using their opt out is true, then it would be huge news. Also, the Pop mention is major, as MacMullan is supposed to be a credible journalist, who is making this connection.

[Godsplan]

I rather keep our depth first before we go for the home run of a 3rd option/3rd star. Maybe by the next trade deadline, if nothing is working, then make moves. As of this coming off season, I rather use just make minor trades at best to improve at the 4

[DarkXaero]

https://theathletic.com/2017846/2020/08/24/inside-pass-popovich-is-nets-dream-candidate-sixers-fallout-and-more/


Here we go. Confirmation from one of NBA's most reputable reporters that we're after Pop and he'll be our priority in coaching search.

The first priority of the Nets’ coaching search has become clear: They plan to seriously explore the possibilities with Popovich, sources tell The Athletic.

He is a favorite of Nets star Kevin Durant, league sources say, even dating as far back as the Oklahoma City Thunder’s coaching search process in 2015 (which ultimately concluded with the hire of Billy Donovan). There is known to be tremendous mutual respect between Popovich and KD. Durant’s presence and voice is powerful within the Nets’ franchise, and Popovich represents a bonding candidate between the two-time Finals MVP and Brooklyn’s front office. ESPN reported on Sunday evening that Durant and Irving have shown an interest in Popovich.

[Papi_swav]

Assuming other moves are already made with Caris and/or Dinwiddie, but not these players/picks:


Rodi/Musa/Prince/19th overall/2 best of 4 ‘21 2nd’s we own

For

Curry/Kleber

I definitely would like to package our lower level players with picks for a nice bench piece. doubt Mavs do this, Curry and Kleber are big pieces for that team but it's a good thought.

[Papi_swav]

Man if we get Pop than I am 100% confident in our team moving forward. That would be a grand slam. Just not sure if he wants to coach our 2 stars

[DarkXaero]

Man if we get Pop than I am 100% confident in our team moving forward. That would be a grand slam. Just not sure if he wants to coach our 2 stars

I don't think the issue would be about our two stars (he likes them and respects them a lot), the issue is more about a huge change of scenery at the age of 72.

[Claud]

I highly doubt Pop leaves the Spurs but it's worth a shot, nothing to lose.

If we can get Pop to be our coach during the KD/Kyrie era it would be amazing.

Pop is a legend.

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If Dinwiddie leaves in free agency, and we get nothing in return, that would be a huge blow to our depth.