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Celtics 2020-21 Roster, Assemble Using Current Info

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Assemble 2020-21 Roster (up to 17 Players) = Assume Keeping "Team Shamrock"

Hayward = Keep on Team
35
14%
R.Williams = Keep on Team
50
20%
Poirier = Keep on Team
4
2%
Theis/Kanter = Re-sign, if financially feasible
41
16%
Langford, G.Williams, Edwards = Keep Rookies, from 2019-20
34
13%
Upgrade = Waters & Fall to NBA Roster spots
22
9%
Green/Wanamaker/Ojeleye = Renew any of,
5
2%
Draft = # of Rookies (Including Two-Way Contracts)
20
8%
Trade = if it Brings in an Impactful Player.
40
16%
Other = Please Explain
4
2%
 
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Post#101 » by djFan71 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:36 pm

celticfan42487 wrote:The only trade I see possible for a team that's dumb enough is something like

Carsen Edwards, the 24th pick, the 30th pick, one of our 3 second rounders to ORL for the 15th overall pick

We'd get value alone from that consolidating our roster issue.

Then we could use the 15th and 17th pick to take swings on bigs.

And our playable rotation would be

Kemba/Smart
Brown/Langford
Hayward/ someone
Tatum/ pick?/ G will
Theis/ pick? / Maybe Timelord stays healthy and steps it up

But I mean even for ORL that's pretty dumb. But that's like... as I was looking at it our best hope for a dumb team to let us consolidate our assets.

That's a kind of deal I'd look for too. Doubt you get into the lottery, but some team after that could want to get more bites at the apple. I wonder if DAL or POR would be interested in something like that. Both in that same range and they could probably conceivably use some extra picks/young guys to fill in roster spots. Maybe even the Bucks with the Pacers pick, but keep Carsen or the 2nd since you're not jumping that many spots at that point.
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Post#102 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:38 pm

As of this date (07-29-20), after the 3 Scrimmages, and before the "Seeding" games.
I'm not so sure that Edwards & Poirier have earned a spot next season.

One of Semi, Green and Wanamaker, may still be a Celtic, though.
I also see us making some type of Trades, while still staying young.


Proposed Rotation, 2020-21:
Kemba - Brown - Tatum - (????) - Theis
Smart - Langford - G.Williams - R.Williams/Kanter
Waters - (Rookie) - Edwards? - Poirier? - Fall

Maine Red Claws = (Rookie), (Rookie)


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Post#103 » by BostonCouchGM » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:34 am

Maybe Danny pulls a rabbit out of his hat like he has in the past via trade. Nothing will make us contenders, that ship has sailed after the Kyrie trade, these past two drafts and given our cap space. But he could keep us entertaining pretenders. It seems the only avenue for that trade is Hayward but I'm not sure the mechanics of that type of trade. Could he be traded should he opt in? Can he do a sign and trade? All I know is if he opts in and stays, we're pretty much running back our current team and it's not good enough. It's flawed with a bottom of the barrel bench full of role players at best.
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Post#104 » by Parliament10 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:58 am

Looks like at this stage (08-23-20), where Hayward is out injured again, that a lot of people are looking to Trade him at the Draft.
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Post#105 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:18 am

Parliament10 wrote:Looks like at this stage (08-23-20), where Hayward is out injured again, that a lot of people are looking to Trade him at the Draft.

Huh? Can't do that unless he opts in early. Draft day and free agency dates aren't even set yet.
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Post#106 » by Parliament10 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:53 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Looks like at this stage (08-23-20), where Hayward is out injured again, that a lot of people are looking to Trade him at the Draft.

Huh? Can't do that unless he opts in early. Draft day and free agency dates aren't even set yet.

They're set already. -- Draft is Oct 16. Free Agency is Oct. 18.
And yes, Hayward would likely have to Opt-in early. Thus having some say in where he goes.
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Post#107 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:57 am

Parliament10 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:Looks like at this stage (08-23-20), where Hayward is out injured again, that a lot of people are looking to Trade him at the Draft.

Huh? Can't do that unless he opts in early. Draft day and free agency dates aren't even set yet.

They're set already. -- Draft is Oct 16. Free Agency is Oct. 18.
And yes, Hayward would likely have to Opt-in early. Thus having some say in where he goes.

Nothing is set in stone at the moment. Here's the latest:
Front-office executives are privately concerned about the lack of salary cap and luxury tax projections in place before the Oct. 16 draft. Those projections would allow them to make crucial decisions -- including on possible trades -- with a clearer understanding of the financial ramifications.

Among many teams, there is interest in connecting the mid-October draft and free-agency periods so that they could be delayed together, sources said.
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Post#108 » by Parliament10 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:00 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Huh? Can't do that unless he opts in early. Draft day and free agency dates aren't even set yet.

They're set already. -- Draft is Oct 16. Free Agency is Oct. 18.
And yes, Hayward would likely have to Opt-in early. Thus having some say in where he goes.

Nothing is set in stone at the moment. Here's the latest:
Front-office executives are privately concerned about the lack of salary cap and luxury tax projections in place before the Oct. 16 draft. Those projections would allow them to make crucial decisions -- including on possible trades -- with a clearer understanding of the financial ramifications.

Among many teams, there is interest in connecting the mid-October draft and free-agency periods so that they could be delayed together, sources said.

Understood.
In the Trade Thread, people are still proposing Hayward Draft Trades. Whenever they happen.
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Post#109 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:08 am

Parliament10 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:They're set already. -- Draft is Oct 16. Free Agency is Oct. 18.
And yes, Hayward would likely have to Opt-in early. Thus having some say in where he goes.

Nothing is set in stone at the moment. Here's the latest:
Front-office executives are privately concerned about the lack of salary cap and luxury tax projections in place before the Oct. 16 draft. Those projections would allow them to make crucial decisions -- including on possible trades -- with a clearer understanding of the financial ramifications.

Among many teams, there is interest in connecting the mid-October draft and free-agency periods so that they could be delayed together, sources said.

Understood.
In the Trade Thread, people are still proposing Hayward Draft Trades. Whenever they happen.

Oh okay. It's difficult for me to get excited about the offseason with so much uncertainty this year. Players don't know yet what they want to do since the NBA itself is kinda in the dark regarding the near future. But from a financial standpoint, Hayward is the most likely casualty if the Celtics want to tighten their purses due to the pandemic/financial crisis.
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Post#110 » by Parliament10 » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:19 am

I personally would still look to move Hayward in the Offseason, for 2 lesser players.
Preferably bringing in a PF and C.

There's no doubting that Hayward came back from injury "in the Nick of time".
And then also sacrificing being present for the birth of his son, is also big.
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Post#111 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:10 pm

Keepers: Walker, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Theis, Smart, Grant, Timelord, Romeo

• We're a contender, bubble environment or not. Sure, other Eastern teams will improve, but so will we.
• It would be great if we can extend/re-sign Hayward to a lower number.
• Re Langford, you just don't give up on a lottery pick a year after being drafted, injuries or not.
• I mentioned this before, but Timelord has to work doubly hard to at least earn that backup big role. Defense is how you get your minutes on the team.
• If there's a young guy on the roster that fits our system the most, it's Grant. And I really like high BBIQ guys. Can play either backup big or backup swing. He has some offensive tools esp in the post. We're just more focused on our wings + Kemba when it comes to scoring.
• There's a thread about upgrading our starting center, but we'll be hard-pressed to find a better one without trading one of our top 5 players.

I'm cool with having Kanter back if he's willing to take on the same role he's getting now in the playoffs. In his third year, Timelord should get a more full-time backup role next year. If Kanter walks, find a minimum-salaried vet big just to have someone go up against the likes of Embiid, Jokic, etc. I'd love to have Baynes back but he likely gets at least the full MLE and he'd want a bigger role.

So that leaves at most five regular roster spots and two two-way spots. Wanamaker likely gets a higher offer elsewhere. Let Javonte Green walk. I'm on the fence with Edwards. Use MLE on a bench scorer/shooter.

Trade salary-fillers: Poirier, Semi (team option); Use #26 as trade bait.

Worst-case scenario wherein we don't find takers for consolidating the picks or trading for future picks: Add all three to the roster. Let Waters walk if 2020 2nd rounder has more potential as a two-way. Re-sign Tacko to the other two-way.

Kemba / Brown / Tatum / Hayward / Theis
Smart / MLE wing (Wanamaker replacement) / vet via trade (Semi replacement) / Grant / Timelord
#14 / Edwards / Langford / #30 / vet min FA big (Kanter replacement)
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Post#112 » by chrisab123 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:11 am

Keep Brown Tatum Kemba Williams (2×) and Kanter. Everyone else can go.

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Post#113 » by Memokerobi » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:48 am

chrisab123 wrote:Keep Brown Tatum Kemba Williams (2×) and Kanter. Everyone else can go.

Reality is Everyone will be back next year...rinse, repeat



I would keep Theis over Kanter
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Post#114 » by CelticsPride18 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:33 am

Why do people want to keep Kanter he’s useless in most matchups.
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Post#115 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:38 am

Because he's cheap and useful in some matchups.
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Post#116 » by CelticsPride18 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:45 am

Bleeding Green wrote:Because he's cheap and useful in some matchups.


Yeah but we need a more reliable big. He didn’t played most of the playoffs. When Theis is in foul trouble or sucks we need a reliable vet Big.
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Post#117 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:09 am

Go find one for his salary. He was great in small stretches this series. But I'm not against signing someone like Nerlens Noel instead in the offseason, does everything I want from my C. Problem is that Kanter decides whether he's back or not, not really a lot to discuss if he just picks up his option.
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Post#118 » by AussieCeltic » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:20 am

We absolutely need an experienced backup PG and an experienced center.

Maybe move Hayward + picks for Adams/Schroeder?

Walker / Schroeder
Smart / Langford
Brown /
Tatum / G Williams
Adams / Theis / Timelord

Ideally need to get another big wing who could play the 2/3/4.

The other person I was thinking about would be Ibaka. He could space the floor plus defend the Bam's of the world.
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Post#119 » by flintsky21 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:16 am

- Trade Hayward for Vucevic straight up. Add #26 if that's what it takes.
- Keep Grant and Langford. Both struggled offensively in their rookie season, but both can legitimately play defense. I think Langford can play the point.
- Draft a shooter (Bey or Nesmith).
- Sign a PG (eg. Teague, Dunn)

C - Vucevic / Theis / Timelord
F - Tatum / Grant
F - Brown / Bey
G - Smart / Langford
G - Kemba / Teague
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Post#120 » by jfs1000d » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:13 pm

Smart, Hayward 3 first rounders for kAT.

In all seriousness. Get a bench. We need more strength. Better shooting, and a bigger center.


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