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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#941 » by Negrodamus » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:51 pm

No thanks. Nothing there really entices me. I especially wouldn't want to give up our pick for that.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#942 » by Kobblehead » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:04 pm

I would think about DeAngelo Russell + the #1 pick (assuming we had a genius GM that took Killian Hayes).
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Post#943 » by Howard Cosell » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:09 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I would think about DeAngelo Russell + the #1 pick (assuming we had a genius GM that took Killian Hayes).


Twolves not dealing Russell anytime soon due to the fact Russell just got to Minnesota and Towns & Russell are best friends. Minnesota probably doesn’t have enough to get Philly interested but I thought I would throw it out there to see what you guys thought.
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Post#944 » by Arsenal » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:30 pm

Negrodamus wrote:No thanks. Nothing there really entices me. I especially wouldn't want to give up our pick for that.


That deal adds insult to injury making us "throw in" 21 also lol.
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Post#945 » by DT RAW » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:03 pm

ya thats a horrendous deal for the sixers lolol

this the weakest draft in memory for the number 1 pick
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Post#946 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:18 pm

If we're trading Simmons to the Wolves, D'Angelo Russell has to be part of the return. End of story. I would trade Ben for DLO, and the #1 pick.
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Post#947 » by Slim Charless » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:22 pm

Curious to how you guys feel about this trade: Simmons, Horford and your 34th pick for Oubre, Bridges, Rubio and the 10th? Obviously you don't wanna give up Simmons to get rid of Al but this trade does give you a lot more spacing and some great 2-way wings to surround Embiid while saving a ton of money freeing up a move in 2021.

FTR ultimately I think you'll just fire BB and run it back w/ the new coach but in case they decide to bring him back then some changes will be needed to the roster.
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Post#948 » by Negrodamus » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:26 pm

Using Ben to unload a bad contract? I'll pass.
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Post#949 » by DT RAW » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:33 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If we're trading Simmons to the Wolves, D'Angelo Russell has to be part of the return. End of story. I would trade Ben for DLO, and the #1 pick.


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Post#950 » by DT RAW » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:34 pm

Slim Charless wrote:Curious to how you guys feel about this trade: Simmons, Horford and your 34th pick for Oubre, Bridges, Rubio and the 10th? Obviously you don't wanna give up Simmons to get rid of Al but this trade does give you a lot more spacing and some great 2-way wings to surround Embiid while saving a ton of money freeing up a move in 2021.

FTR ultimately I think you'll just fire BB and run it back w/ the new coach but in case they decide to bring him back then some changes will be needed to the roster.


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Post#951 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:38 pm

Slim Charless wrote:Curious to how you guys feel about this trade: Simmons, Horford and your 34th pick for Oubre, Bridges, Rubio and the 10th? Obviously you don't wanna give up Simmons to get rid of Al but this trade does give you a lot more spacing and some great 2-way wings to surround Embiid while saving a ton of money freeing up a move in 2021.

FTR ultimately I think you'll just fire BB and run it back w/ the new coach but in case they decide to bring him back then some changes will be needed to the roster.


Absolutely not :banghead: . Any trade involving Simmons MUST bring back a backcourt player that can shoot, score, and create for others when needed. Think Bradley Beal, D'Angelo Russell, Jrue Holiday, CJ Mcollum, Lillard, Devin Booker. Oubre and Bridges are nice complimentary pieces, and Rubio is a decent point guard that can't score. You're basically offering three role players for a guy that may very well turn into a superstar sooner than later. The 10th pick in the draft just isn't all that enticing either. That's a no for me personally.
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Post#952 » by Slim Charless » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:55 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Curious to how you guys feel about this trade: Simmons, Horford and your 34th pick for Oubre, Bridges, Rubio and the 10th? Obviously you don't wanna give up Simmons to get rid of Al but this trade does give you a lot more spacing and some great 2-way wings to surround Embiid while saving a ton of money freeing up a move in 2021.

FTR ultimately I think you'll just fire BB and run it back w/ the new coach but in case they decide to bring him back then some changes will be needed to the roster.


Absolutely not :banghead: . Any trade involving Simmons MUST bring back a backcourt player that can shoot, score, and create for others when needed. Think Bradley Beal, D'Angelo Russell, Jrue Holiday, CJ Mcollum, Lillard, Devin Booker. Oubre and Bridges are nice complimentary pieces, and Rubio is a decent point guard that can't score. You're basically offering three role players for a guy that may very well turn into a superstar sooner than later. The 10th pick in the draft just isn't all that enticing either. That's a no for me personally.


Fair enough Rubio has been hitting at decent clip this year from 3 (36%) while averaging near career highs in points and assists while putting up very good defense. He's a great stabilizing factor for young teams that have had crappy coaching. Still, I get it Simmons could average a triple double while getting DPOY-he's that talented. Like I said you'll probably just fire BB and hire someone else. Hopefully Brand goes too.
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Post#953 » by Arsenal » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:00 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If we're trading Simmons to the Wolves, D'Angelo Russell has to be part of the return. End of story. I would trade Ben for DLO, and the #1 pick.


We could have signed D'Lo outright last summer. Instead we spent the money on Al Horford.
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Post#954 » by Howard Cosell » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:13 am

Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If we're trading Simmons to the Wolves, D'Angelo Russell has to be part of the return. End of story. I would trade Ben for DLO, and the #1 pick.


We could have signed D'Lo outright last summer. Instead we spent the money on Al Horford.


Yeah, it doesn’t look like a trade is possible between Twolves and 76ers. Minnesota is not going to piss off Towns by trading Russell before they have played a full year with each other. Twolves will attempt to trade the 1st pick to some team but Russell definitely will not be part of the package.
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Post#955 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:21 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If we're trading Simmons to the Wolves, D'Angelo Russell has to be part of the return. End of story. I would trade Ben for DLO, and the #1 pick.


We could have signed D'Lo outright last summer. Instead we spent the money on Al Horford.


Yeah i'm totally 100% aware of this fact. Thanks for pointing it out again. Why you would assume that I didn't know that is beyond me. I was on here SCREAMING for us to get him after it was evident he wouldn't be returning to the Nets. Never once did I say last summer "Hey, we should sign Al Horford." I wanted DLO all day. Normally i'm not that guy who throws the hindsight card out there, but Russell was the guy I wanted us to get last summer. I actually remember having a conversation on here about passing on Harris for Russell. Kobblehead cleared up the reasons why we couldn't have done that. Once we inked Horford, that was pretty much nail in coffin as far as offseason went.
But yeah, D'Lo should have been the prize piece! Especially after what he did to us in the playoffs. He is EXACTLY what we need on this team and the absolute perfect fit between Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. He has somehow been able to evade us twice now. Once in the draft when we were blessed with Okafor instead of him and again last offseason. We tried to draft a player that was supposed to be very comparable to him in Fultz and that blew up in our faces too. Actually! We probably could have acquire Russell for next to nothing after his failed stint with the Lakers, but we chose to look the other way.

Apologies, i'm just extremely frustrated right now. We have been betrayed by this organization. I'm ready to break ****! :banghead:
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#956 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:22 am

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Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If we're trading Simmons to the Wolves, D'Angelo Russell has to be part of the return. End of story. I would trade Ben for DLO, and the #1 pick.


We could have signed D'Lo outright last summer. Instead we spent the money on Al Horford.


Yeah, it doesn’t look like a trade is possible between Twolves and 76ers. Minnesota is not going to piss off Towns by trading Russell before they have played a full year with each other. Twolves will attempt to trade the 1st pick to some team but Russell definitely will not be part of the package.


If Philly is somehow looking for a rebuild, then the first pick and Culver would be a great starting point. Despite the turmoil with this team right now, I don't think the sky is completely falling just yet.
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Post#957 » by Arsenal » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:08 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If we're trading Simmons to the Wolves, D'Angelo Russell has to be part of the return. End of story. I would trade Ben for DLO, and the #1 pick.


We could have signed D'Lo outright last summer. Instead we spent the money on Al Horford.


Yeah i'm totally 100% aware of this fact. Thanks for pointing it out again. Why you would assume that I didn't know that is beyond me. I was on here SCREAMING for us to get him after it was evident he wouldn't be returning to the Nets. Never once did I say last summer "Hey, we should sign Al Horford." I wanted DLO all day. Normally i'm not that guy who throws the hindsight card out there, but Russell was the guy I wanted us to get last summer. I actually remember having a conversation on here about passing on Harris for Russell. Kobblehead cleared up the reasons why we couldn't have done that. Once we inked Horford, that was pretty much nail in coffin as far as offseason went.
But yeah, D'Lo should have been the prize piece! Especially after what he did to us in the playoffs. He is EXACTLY what we need on this team and the absolute perfect fit between Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. He has somehow been able to evade us twice now. Once in the draft when we were blessed with Okafor instead of him and again last offseason. We tried to draft a player that was supposed to be very comparable to him in Fultz and that blew up in our faces too. Actually! We probably could have acquire Russell for next to nothing after his failed stint with the Lakers, but we chose to look the other way.

Apologies, i'm just extremely frustrated right now. We have been betrayed by this organization. I'm ready to break ****! :banghead:


I didn't assume anything about you in particular. I wanted to point out the idiocy and cluelessness of our front office to everyone reading the thread in case they forgot.
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Post#958 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:29 am

Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
We could have signed D'Lo outright last summer. Instead we spent the money on Al Horford.


Yeah i'm totally 100% aware of this fact. Thanks for pointing it out again. Why you would assume that I didn't know that is beyond me. I was on here SCREAMING for us to get him after it was evident he wouldn't be returning to the Nets. Never once did I say last summer "Hey, we should sign Al Horford." I wanted DLO all day. Normally i'm not that guy who throws the hindsight card out there, but Russell was the guy I wanted us to get last summer. I actually remember having a conversation on here about passing on Harris for Russell. Kobblehead cleared up the reasons why we couldn't have done that. Once we inked Horford, that was pretty much nail in coffin as far as offseason went.
But yeah, D'Lo should have been the prize piece! Especially after what he did to us in the playoffs. He is EXACTLY what we need on this team and the absolute perfect fit between Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. He has somehow been able to evade us twice now. Once in the draft when we were blessed with Okafor instead of him and again last offseason. We tried to draft a player that was supposed to be very comparable to him in Fultz and that blew up in our faces too. Actually! We probably could have acquire Russell for next to nothing after his failed stint with the Lakers, but we chose to look the other way.

Apologies, i'm just extremely frustrated right now. We have been betrayed by this organization. I'm ready to break ****! :banghead:


I didn't assume anything about you in particular. I wanted to point out the idiocy and cluelessness of our front office to everyone reading the thread in case they forgot.


No, I gotcha, I knew you weren't. This whole thing is just maddening to me! Norvell Pelle has been a better backup Center than Al Horford has been. The team just doesn't know if it's building or rebuilding or WTF to do. How you screw something up like this is beyond me! Brand was given the keys to a brand new Ferrari and he crashed it backing out of the driveway!
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#959 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:18 am

davesilver wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:IND out: Turner, Lamb
IND in: Harris

NOP out: Holiday
NOP in: Turner, Richardson, Zhaire, #21

PHI out: Harris, Richardson, Zhaire, #21
PHI in: Holiday, Lamb

Follow-up Horford + Korkmaz + #34 + #36 for Hield


Holiday(34)/Milton(14)
Hield(32)/Lamb(10)/Milton(6)
Lamb(20)/Thybulle(28)
Simmons(34)/Scott(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Holiday/Milton/Micic
Hield/Burks/#58
Lamb/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#49
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


I think this is on the right track. NOP - IND - PHI trade makes sense around these pieces. I think IND would want another asset attached to take the risk on Tobias’ contract. Feels like getting Lamb is too much for us here.

I think Lamb and Buddy would be redundant. I think Barnes is a realistic target for Al.

If we can get rid of Tobias, I’d actually like to keep Al as a backup for Joel. His contract deflates, and we only owe 14.5m that final year.

Regardless, Jrue is my #1 target this offseason, while holding onto Matisse Ben and Joel. Assuming 2-3 more years of great play from Jrue, that lineup could be special.


We could add the NYK 2021 2nd to Indy? Probably a pick in the 30s again.

Instead of the Buddy trade we can Horford + Zhaire (Korkmaz to NOP instead) + #34 + #36 for Gordon and Covington.


Holiday(33)/Milton(15)
Lamb(20)/Gordon(28)
Covington(16)/Thybulle(28)/Lamb(4)
Simmons(34)/Covington(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Holiday/Milton/Micic
Lamb/Gordon/#58
Covington/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#49
Embiid/MLE/Pelle
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#960 » by ankle420breaker » Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:39 am

I think you have to be open minded to the idea of trading Embiid in the right deal. He put up numbers and had a productive series, but you can't deny he's playing with cement shoes at 26 and has fallen off a cliff defensively.

If it comes down to moving on from one of Embiid or Simmons, there are several factors to consider:

Joel is better than Simmons today, but I see Ben aging significantly better and Joel netting a stronger return.

Its a guards league and tough era for Embiid to win in. Modern day championship recipes call for several multi-faceted perimeter scorers with a competent complimentary center (someone like Horford). Stopping the ball every trip up the floor for Joel post-ups is too easy to scheme against and discourages a well rounded offensive attack (like we just saw from Boston).

We're one injury and/or one disgruntled trade request away from Joel's value taking a hit. I'm not saying we need to expedite a deal this summer, but we should at least do our due diligence to identify potential trade partners and prepare for the possibility.

Guys like Booker, Beal, Lillard, Trae, Shai, Morant, Klay, Holiday/Ingram would be strong realistic targets for an Embiid trade.

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