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Post#1801 » by gobullschi » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:37 pm

Bulldog23 wrote:Trade suggestion: Zack to Atlanta for Huerter/Dedmon/#6 pick.

The Bulls keep the #4 pick and they get #6. Huerter provides more shooting. Dedmon is a solid back up center in the rotation.

OR The Bulls send Zack for Hunter/Dedmon and no pick coming back. Hunter provides another wing behind Porter.

Atlanta would be excited to pair Zack next to Trae. It allows Zack to move off the ball and just be a scorer. Atlanta looks like a good trade partner.

Bulls could also include Sato/Thad as well in these scenarios.

I am hoping that the Bulls pick Hayes at #4, I think his game will mess well with the Wendal and Laurie because of his passing.


The starting point in any LaVine deal would be Hunter & #6.
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Post#1802 » by ChettheJet » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:40 am

Moving to #4 has me more enthused for looking to move everybody but the pick, Lavine, White, Markkanen, Carter, Gafford.
With the idea of drafting Deni, just starting him and go younger than we are now. Stop worrying about Lavine's defense and see if he can become the team leader.

Much depends on who other teams draft and if they go to add talent no matter the position or draft for need. There doesn't seem to be any difference makers in the 2020 FA pool for the Bulls or anyone else which doesn't much matter since everybody is aiming for 2021.

Any number of teams could use a PF so moving Young and Porter is only difficult because of the amount of money the Bulls have to take back. Especially Porter, they either have to get another $28M contract back or they add too many smaller ones and end up with way too many players on the roster. I'm tired of waiting for Hutchison to be healthy and play a full season. There are some teams who are lacking at center and just maybe they could accept Felicio for a year as a backup while they retool until they find some talent. I have to hope Dunn and Valentine's agents have been looking for places for their clients to land and can match up the money and pick swaps or whatever to get them new contracts. Let us move on from Arcidiacono, Harrison.

from unsuccessfully trying to come up with trades I've at least identified younger guys to look at who look like they're down the depth chart, might need the change of scenery or some mock drafts have their teams drafting at their position. I'd also like to end up with another FRP 24-30

Grayson Allen, Dillon Brooks, Kevin Porter jr, Jarrett Culver, Kevin Knox, Darius Garland, Can Reddish, Delon Wright, Josh Hart, I'm coming around to the idea of taking Derrick Rose back for his expiring contract if it helps shed somebody else.
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Post#1803 » by Chicagoat » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:53 am

I still haven't forgotten that Carter wants to do a position change. I just can't see Lauri and Carter co-existing.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2020/3/31/21201252/player-breakdowns-bulls-wendell-carter-jr-position-change
AKME? More like MEAK with how they're afraid to make a move to push us in one direction.

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Post#1804 » by Repeat 3-peat » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:27 am

Carter is a complete dumbass if he believes he's a 4 in today's NBA. The man can't even shoot.
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Post#1805 » by gobullschi » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:37 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Carter is a complete dumbass if he believes he's a 4 in today's NBA. The man can't even shoot.


A WCJ/Obi Toppin front court could work. In fact, it’s probably the most likely outcome unless there is a trade or Ball/Edwards falls.
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Post#1806 » by gobullschi » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:39 am

ChettheJet wrote:Moving to #4 has me more enthused for looking to move everybody but the pick, Lavine, White, Markkanen, Carter, Gafford.
With the idea of drafting Deni, just starting him and go younger than we are now. Stop worrying about Lavine's defense and see if he can become the team leader.

Much depends on who other teams draft and if they go to add talent no matter the position or draft for need. There doesn't seem to be any difference makers in the 2020 FA pool for the Bulls or anyone else which doesn't much matter since everybody is aiming for 2021.

Any number of teams could use a PF so moving Young and Porter is only difficult because of the amount of money the Bulls have to take back. Especially Porter, they either have to get another $28M contract back or they add too many smaller ones and end up with way too many players on the roster. I'm tired of waiting for Hutchison to be healthy and play a full season. There are some teams who are lacking at center and just maybe they could accept Felicio for a year as a backup while they retool until they find some talent. I have to hope Dunn and Valentine's agents have been looking for places for their clients to land and can match up the money and pick swaps or whatever to get them new contracts. Let us move on from Arcidiacono, Harrison.

from unsuccessfully trying to come up with trades I've at least identified younger guys to look at who look like they're down the depth chart, might need the change of scenery or some mock drafts have their teams drafting at their position. I'd also like to end up with another FRP 24-30

Grayson Allen, Dillon Brooks, Kevin Porter jr, Jarrett Culver, Kevin Knox, Darius Garland, Can Reddish, Delon Wright, Josh Hart, I'm coming around to the idea of taking Derrick Rose back for his expiring contract if it helps shed somebody else.


Woah. Calm your tits. Deni is not that type of prospect.
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Post#1807 » by Jiipee84 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:43 am

There is a rumor Golden State is open to trade 2nd overall pick for a player who can help their championship run season 2020-2021.
Getting Warriors 2nd overall pick gives a chance to draft one of Wiseman / Ball / Avdija.
So how about all you Lauri haters would you trade Lauri for 2nd overall pick?
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Post#1808 » by Dez » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:48 am

Jiipee84 wrote:There is a rumor Golden State is open to trade 2nd overall pick for a player who can help their championship run season 2020-2021.
Getting Warriors 2nd overall pick gives a chance to draft one of Wiseman / Ball / Avdija.
So how about all you Lauri haters would you trade Lauri for 2nd overall pick?


Absolutely would do that and any smart person would given that it's heavily weighted in Chicago's favour.

Also that doesn't make people Lauri haters, it makes them reasonable Bulls fans because there is absolutely no reason to say no to that from the Bulls POV given Lauri is inconsistent, injury prone and a RFA after next season.

GWS aren't doing that without a significant sweetner going with Lauri.
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Post#1809 » by leo921 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:50 am

Crazy idea - trade Lavine to the Knicks for an unprotected 2021 pick.

While in this situation Knicks think they are getting a good deal starting the rebuild with Lavine/Barrett/Robinson/8th pick. Its the Knicks and I still expect them to be in the lottery next year. As we have seen under the new system teams in the 7-11 can easily move up to the top 4.

Bulls get a good coach like Atkinson, AK has promised more development coaches (we use to have only 1, 1 are you kidding me) we can see great progress with the team and come into 2021 with 2 shots in the lotto when the talent is supposed to be way better. Then we would have great young talent and tons of cap space to work with.
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Post#1810 » by wonderboy2 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:47 am

leo921 wrote:Crazy idea - trade Lavine to the Knicks for an unprotected 2021 pick.

While in this situation Knicks think they are getting a good deal starting the rebuild with Lavine/Barrett/Robinson/8th pick. Its the Knicks and I still expect them to be in the lottery next year. As we have seen under the new system teams in the 7-11 can easily move up to the top 4.

Bulls get a good coach like Atkinson, AK has promised more development coaches (we use to have only 1, 1 are you kidding me) we can see great progress with the team and come into 2021 with 2 shots in the lotto when the talent is supposed to be way better. Then we would have great young talent and tons of cap space to work with.

Hell no!!!!
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Post#1811 » by VolumePoster » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:51 am

If ball falls, I could see a pick swap nyc. Perhaps involving a future first.
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Post#1812 » by sco » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:05 pm

Dez wrote:
Jiipee84 wrote:There is a rumor Golden State is open to trade 2nd overall pick for a player who can help their championship run season 2020-2021.
Getting Warriors 2nd overall pick gives a chance to draft one of Wiseman / Ball / Avdija.
So how about all you Lauri haters would you trade Lauri for 2nd overall pick?


Absolutely would do that and any smart person would given that it's heavily weighted in Chicago's favour.

Also that doesn't make people Lauri haters, it makes them reasonable Bulls fans because there is absolutely no reason to say no to that from the Bulls POV given Lauri is inconsistent, injury prone and a RFA after next season.

GWS aren't doing that without a significant sweetner going with Lauri.

I think the sweetener would be to add Otto and Wiggins...I'm not sure I would do it though. Wiggins deal is so bad.

Otto/Lauri for Wiggins/2
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Post#1813 » by ChettheJet » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:44 pm

gobullschi wrote:
Woah. Calm your tits. Deni is not that type of prospect.
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Post#1814 » by kodo » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:51 pm

Jiipee84 wrote:There is a rumor Golden State is open to trade 2nd overall pick for a player who can help their championship run season 2020-2021.
Getting Warriors 2nd overall pick gives a chance to draft one of Wiseman / Ball / Avdija.
So how about all you Lauri haters would you trade Lauri for 2nd overall pick?


Lauri won't get us the #2 pick, or even a top 10 pick.

Markelle Fultz went #1 and returned a top 20 protected pick, so 21-30. And if it doesn't convey it turns into two 2nd rounders.
Oladipo went #2 and returned no pick at all. All Orlando got back for him was an expiring contract, financial savings.

Many top 10 picks like Lauri, if they the team doesn't extend, just to turn into free agents and aren't able to get any asset back at all. Ben McLemore (#7), Greg Monroe (#8), Dragan Bender (#4), etc..
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Post#1815 » by CBS7 » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:20 pm

If Lauri was worth a #2 pick we would be crazy to give him up.

I wonder if Embiid will be unhappy about the sweep, and I wonder if he would be attainable.
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Post#1816 » by Chi town » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:42 pm

Lauri's value is low and I dont' AK will trade him until the deadline if at all. I don't think Lauri fits this new NBA. Too passive and can't create for himself.

If I could get a deal for Lauri at the draft I'd go for it. With his rookie contract coming up he has to improve big time before the deadline to have higher value then he does right now due to timing.

I'd do Lauri and filler for 10 and Cam

Cam is your 3D PF who can shoot. Solid 3rd big potential. Where I do like this draft is outside the top 10 where there are several 3D wings similar to MIkal Bridges that really do alot for winning. Nesmith, Vassell, Bey.

Lets say we take Vassell... I'd prefer Nesmith though.

Take Deni at 4.

Coby, Lavine, Otto, Deni, WCJ


I'm okay throwing in 44 or Hutch as filler if needed.
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Post#1817 » by jordanwilliams6 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:12 am

If Philly decide to blow it up, does anyone think we could come up with a competitive offer without giving up White or LaVine?

Something like Lauri, Otto, Gafford, pick 4 + future picks?

I honestly think Simmons would be a fantastic fit with White & LaVine, takes the ball out of Zach's hands and turn him into a lethal scorer.

White
LaVine
Simmons
Stretch 4 + defender
WCJ

If you fit out that team with a solid bench, I can honestly see it becoming a contender if Zach continues his improvement and becomes a 26-28 PPG all star, Coby can be come a 20 PPG sort of player with WCJ anchoring the defense.

It's probably living in dreamland, but if Philly choose the Embiid path I think those players would fit really well around him and they could use pick 4 to bring in some quality guard play.
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Post#1818 » by patryk7754 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:15 am

Assuming the Wolves go with Anthony Edwards;

4th and CWJ for the 2nd. Draft Wiseman
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Post#1819 » by Grodoboldo » Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:28 am

VolumePoster wrote:If ball falls, I could see a pick swap nyc. Perhaps involving a future first.


I'd probably do that trade if Hayes or Hali is available at 8. Don't care for Wiseman or Ball anyway.
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Post#1820 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:17 am

jordanwilliams6 wrote:If Philly decide to blow it up, does anyone think we could come up with a competitive offer without giving up White or LaVine?

Something like Lauri, Otto, Gafford, pick 4 + future picks?

I honestly think Simmons would be a fantastic fit with White & LaVine, takes the ball out of Zach's hands and turn him into a lethal scorer.

White
LaVine
Simmons
Stretch 4 + defender
WCJ

If you fit out that team with a solid bench, I can honestly see it becoming a contender if Zach continues his improvement and becomes a 26-28 PPG all star, Coby can be come a 20 PPG sort of player with WCJ anchoring the defense.

It's probably living in dreamland, but if Philly choose the Embiid path I think those players would fit really well around him and they could use pick 4 to bring in some quality guard play.


They’d rightfully pick Simmons. They desperately need shooting which I think they’d prefer to Lauri over WCJ. I think they’d want Lauri + LaVine + #4 which is too much IMO. I wouldn’t include LaVine, at some point, we’d just be creating a new hole.

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