Celtics exposed?

[Turgon]

Funny how the BSPN analysts couldn't see this coming .No interior defense... You lose Morris, Horford, and Baynes, replace that with Kanter and what did they expect?Instead of talking about the Celts being a top 4 Eastern team and whether Kemba could replace Kyrie , they needed to be asking if they can even make the playoffs as a "donut" team.

OP is pure gold, criticising analysts while going for the hot take

[Curmudgeon]

Some opinions just don't age well.

[UNCBlue012]

Remember that this post received 39 likes. Lmao. People are so stupid.

[itrsteve]

I know we're not suppose to bump threads of this nature; however, this one is rather special.

Plus it gave us the legend of Prok.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I know that the Mods are going to lock thread but I really wish they didn't. Some of the takes here are obvious troll attempts and it would be nice if people could be held accountable for doing so.

It's a bit contradictory to allow posters to troll franchises when the chips are down - but asking said trolls to justify previous statements when clearly proven wrong is deemed as breaking the rules.

People went hard at the Celtics last year. My personal favorite was this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1876869&p=77875533

Just crazy attempts to troll.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

I know we're not suppose to bump threads of this nature; however, this one is rather special.

Plus it gave us the legend of Prok.

Prok is a Celtics fan now, isn't he? That's what his avatar and signature implies.

[RHODEY]

Funny how the BSPN analysts couldn't see this coming .No interior defense... You lose Morris, Horford, and Baynes, replace that with Kanter and what did they expect?Instead of talking about the Celts being a top 4 Eastern team and whether Kemba could replace Kyrie , they needed to be asking if they can even make the playoffs as a "donut" team.

OP is pure gold, criticising analysts while going for the hot take

Pure gold beating an undermanned team ...but what happens when the Celts face real competition?

[The_Hater]

Nothing is more pointless then using the word ‘exposed’ to help declare some bad take a person has on their mind is indeed correct.

And nothing is dumber than claiming a team is ‘exposed’ based on an Exhibition game, now that’s just embarrassing

[Saint Lazarus]

Funny how the BSPN analysts couldn't see this coming .No interior defense... You lose Morris, Horford, and Baynes, replace that with Kanter and what did they expect?Instead of talking about the Celts being a top 4 Eastern team and whether Kemba could replace Kyrie , they needed to be asking if they can even make the playoffs as a "donut" team.

OP is pure gold, criticising analysts while going for the hot take

Pure gold beating an undermanned team ...but what happens when the Celts face real competition?

True. I’m so glad the Celtics don’t have to face Frank, Knox, and the human beyblade known as Julius Randle. Celtics really dodged a bullet!

[Feed Your Head]

Funny how the BSPN analysts couldn't see this coming .No interior defense... You lose Morris, Horford, and Baynes, replace that with Kanter and what did they expect?Instead of talking about the Celts being a top 4 Eastern team and whether Kemba could replace Kyrie , they needed to be asking if they can even make the playoffs as a "donut" team.

OP is pure gold, criticising analysts while going for the hot take

Pure gold beating an undermanned team ...but what happens when the Celts face real competition?

Obviously you’re too ridiculous to admit you were way off, so arguing is pointless. But weren’t the Celtics short handed themselves?

And what about the Celtics having the second best net rating in the league? And the fact that they were one of the best teams in the league against other top teams?

Just be an adult, it’s okay to be wrong.

[LofJ]

Celtics fans are petty. It used to annoy me, but now that my guy Kemba Walker is a Celtic I'm here for it.

[RHODEY]

OP is pure gold, criticising analysts while going for the hot take

Pure gold beating an undermanned team ...but what happens when the Celts face real competition?

Obviously you’re too ridiculous to admit you were way off, so arguing is pointless. But weren’t the Celtics short handed themselves?

And what about the Celtics having the second best net rating in the league? And the fact that they were one of the best teams in the league against other top teams?

Just be an adult, it’s okay to be wrong.

Wrong how? you guys haven't progressed in years. treadmill team.

[Kampuchea]

The Sixers were missing their best player. I expect the Raps in 5 next round

[LofJ]

The Sixers were missing their best player. I expect the Raps in 5 next round

I think the Raptors will end up winning the series, but it isn't going to be that easy. Kemba is going to be the hungriest player on either team, Lowry is going to have his hands full.

[ITYSL]

Pure gold beating an undermanned team ...but what happens when the Celts face real competition?

Instead of talking about the Celts being a top 4 Eastern team and whether Kemba could replace Kyrie , they needed to be asking if they can even make the playoffs as a "donut" team.

[ballup]

Pure gold beating an undermanned team ...but what happens when the Celts face real competition?

Obviously you’re too ridiculous to admit you were way off, so arguing is pointless. But weren’t the Celtics short handed themselves?

And what about the Celtics having the second best net rating in the league? And the fact that they were one of the best teams in the league against other top teams?

Just be an adult, it’s okay to be wrong.

Wrong how? you guys haven't progressed in years. treadmill team.

Tough talk when your team isn't even allowed in the gym. Keep that energy while you stay in the lobby

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[strokerace]

Pure gold beating an undermanned team ...but what happens when the Celts face real competition?

Obviously you’re too ridiculous to admit you were way off, so arguing is pointless. But weren’t the Celtics short handed themselves?

And what about the Celtics having the second best net rating in the league? And the fact that they were one of the best teams in the league against other top teams?

Just be an adult, it’s okay to be wrong.

Wrong how? you guys haven't progressed in years. treadmill team.

What's your definition of a treadmill team?

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

The Sixers were missing their best player. I expect the Raps in 5 next round

Care to place a wager? I'll bet it goes longer than 5. Winner picks the loser's avatar and signature for a month. Deal?

[Feed Your Head]

Edit: not necessary lol.

This thread should be left to die.

[Slax]

The fact is Ainge was presented multiple opportunities to acquire players that would put the Celtics closer to title contention. (Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, maybe Anthony Davis) He turned them down to hoard his prospects. The Hayward move wasn't a great fit even if he was healthy because of the makeup of the roster. Have to think that this is a little bit of karma coming back to the Celtics for ditching someone who played with pure passion, leadership, and desire to win above all else.

That was primarily about timing regarding Butler and George, any trade made while they were available would have cost the team major assets and it would have used up their future cap space. Hayward was signed without giving up assets, just using cap space and it went simultaneously with trading for Irving. If you don't time things perfectly you lose out on subsequent moves and that would have been the case here. Ainge waited until the 2017 off season on purpose.

Plus considering that both Butler has played for 3 other teams since that trade opportunity was there, that looks like an excellent decision and he had the same intel that everyone else had on George and Kawhi, that they both wanted to head to LA as free-agents and that's where they have both ended up.

All I'm saying here is that Ainge could have made one or more of the moves that you're pointing out here and still ended up being criticized for making the wrong moves today. Personally, I think he made a mistake not trading for Kawhi last season. He easily could have made that deal and the Celtics probably win the championship. But if they don't and Kawhi bolts to the Clippers, the criticism would be even worse right now.

Yo shoutout you man. Every other non-Celtics fan looking clownish here except you.

The_Hater's hypothetical about Ainge trading Brown for Kawhi and then Kawhi leaving is one of several nightmare alternate history scenarios I have thought about where Ainge could have destroyed the franchise if he went with moves that were popular here on RealGM at the time. Various combinations of things like trading away one or more of the Brooklyn picks that became Tatum and Brown for Winslow/Butler/George, drafting Bender over Brown, drafting Fultz over Tatum, and trading Brown or Tatum in a package for a player like Drummond/Cousins/Butler/George/Kawhi/AD who either wouldn't have been effective or probably would have left after 1-2 years were all popular ideas on RealGM at various points. There's a chance with some of these that they could have traded a future for a chance at a championship, but the most likely outcome would have been a depleted roster missing key young players who are part of this current playoff run.

None of this is to say that Ainge has always been right; he makes a lot of mistakes, like every GM. The point is that one or two strokes of luck can completely alter the fortunes of a franchise in ways that are hard to predict, and that being a GM and having to make decisions with so many unknowns about the future is really hard.