2020 Draft Thread

[TB]

So who is the legit possibility at 2 that would make us go "WTF BOB"?

Gotta be Hayes right?

[marthafokker]

Just listening to Bulls post lottery show. Interesting trade scenario from Will Purdue. He said Carter + #4 for #2. Interesting. Could get Deni or one of the other wings. They wanted Wiseman.

[Warriors Analyst]

So who is the legit possibility at 2 that would make us go "WTF BOB"?

Gotta be Hayes right?

Hayes would be a ballsy pick. I can see him being quite good, but I'm more interested in wings in the 6'8 range who can grow into some ball-handling skills than I am a smallish lead guard.

[ILOVEIT]

Just listening to Bulls post lottery show. Interesting trade scenario from Will Purdue. He said Carter + #4 for #2. Interesting. Could get Deni or one of the other wings. They wanted Wiseman.

That's the way you do it IF you like Deni (which I do) over Wiseman. It's very close for me. But I just imagine Deni being constantly in the action....always in the closing minutes of games...while Wiseman will be a specialist for a couple of years...

Anyway...Warriors will be better in either case.

Regarding Wendell? In a way he's a lot like Ezeli...which would be a plus. He's a monster and, unlike a guy like Chris, would be able to dominate the area under the basket.

If I'm Myers maybe I add a slight modification to the trade....Warriors get whichever pick is higher next year...Chicago's or Wolves (assuming both outside top 3 protection).

[ILOVEIT]

I bet Philly is very open to moving Embiid for Wiggins and Wiseman. That would be ideal for them (not sure for us). But they would have Wiseman to learn from Hortford...Wiggins to help with scoring next to Simmons....pretty sweet for them.

[ILOVEIT]

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So he says Okongwu is off their board and they don’t want him because he’s like Chriss but then he thinks that’s who they want to draft? I’m confused.

I was confused as well

My take on LaMelo is that he's extremely talented, but he's a project.
If we don't find a trade deal and we want the BPA, he makes sense.
Him playing the same position as Curry isn't a problem at all because Ball will be ready to be a star only when Curry will be too old to carry the team. I think LaMelo needs 2-3 years of development to become a star, he's raw, but with his bbIQ, vision, quickness and size, he has the tools to be great. Also as he needs to improve his shot mechanincs and shot selection, where does he find better mentors than at GSW?
However we are in win-now move so I doubt he will be picked.

Thing about Ball is he looks like he would absolutely get ROASTED defensively every time down. Can you imagine him trying to push back on anyone? "mouse in the house" isn't used that much cause the league doesn't look for the big guy match up....but that would make a comeback. Yes...he's tall...but he'd just be dismissed over and over again defensively. Shot look....horrid. Didn't the Ball's every take shooting fundamentals. Their shots all look like the way they shot when they were 10.

[Onus]

Just listening to Bulls post lottery show. Interesting trade scenario from Will Purdue. He said Carter + #4 for #2. Interesting. Could get Deni or one of the other wings. They wanted Wiseman.

That's the way you do it IF you like Deni (which I do) over Wiseman. It's very close for me. But I just imagine Deni being constantly in the action....always in the closing minutes of games...while Wiseman will be a specialist for a couple of years...

Anyway...Warriors will be better in either case.

Regarding Wendell? In a way he's a lot like Ezeli...which would be a plus. He's a monster and, unlike a guy like Chris, would be able to dominate the area under the basket.

If I'm Myers maybe I add a slight modification to the trade....Warriors get whichever pick is higher next year...Chicago's or Wolves (assuming both outside top 3 protection).

Deni could be very good. He did win 2 gold medals with Israel in the u17 and u18 and I’ve never heard of Israel as a powerhouse for basketball talent to win gold medals, so that’s impressive. If he’s 6’10” he can close with curry, klay, Wiggins, Deni and Dray. Everyone can dribble drive and shoot minus the shoot part for Draymond. Really it depends on his defense.

I wouldn’t want carter though.

[Coxy]

I'm starting to wonder if Deni could be our target.

[wco81]

Doubtful he could guard 3s, never mind switch to good 1s or 2s.

[ShayDee]

I meant that. Supers said his sources say the Warriors FO have Okongwu low on their board because of the similarities to Chriss and other 6'9 players here. And I mean if they feel that way about Onyeka why would they want Wendell Carter from the Bulls that is 6'9(like Chriss and co. on our roster) hasn't proven anything and is always injured? Doesn't make sense guys. If we deal with the Bulls it would be for a 2021 first . this is a direct quote from him

That's something, because both bay connects I have reached out to said Okongwu is no longer on their BB due to fear that he's not better than Chriss. They see him as mid to late lottery pick is what both told me. Not just the one that told me he doesn't shoot well enough.

I truly don't think they want Wiseman but the players do. Not sure why...

I think in Supes opinion , he thinks our FO prefer Okongwu, but his sources say we don't and the players on our team prefer Wiseman

He also says this

That being said, the only team I think would be open to moving up for Wiseman and giving a top 5-10 protected 1st is the Washington Wizards. If GS moves back, that's the team that would do it on such a high risk draft. Especially if they don't get the F2F workouts like GS is crying about. GS could end up with Big O at the end of the process anyway.

So we might end with him if he is at 9 and BPA

[Quazza]

I'm starting to wonder if Deni could be our target.

I think this too. I don't know why but feels like a Bob pick

[Coxy]

I'm starting to wonder if Deni could be our target.

I think this too. I don't know why but feels like a Bob pick

He's probably way more ready with his experience, he would fit the 3 man with ball handling and shooting. Plus, the Euro Luka hype is through the roof.

[ShayDee]

I'm starting to wonder if Deni could be our target.

I think this too. I don't know why but feels like a Bob pick

I think this too. Like I said deep down they want Deni and the desire is even getting stronger because of Lukas success. But the only way the get Deni is if they pick him at 2 because he will be gone by 4 from the Bulls, but if we are talking about BPA it's Wiseman over Deni but Bob might get stubborn and do this **** again

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

I bet Philly is very open to moving Embiid for Wiggins and Wiseman. That would be ideal for them (not sure for us). But they would have Wiseman to learn from Hortford...Wiggins to help with scoring next to Simmons....pretty sweet for them.

Told a couple others, but I was on the Philly board about a month ago (and just recently), and offered Wiggins, our 2020 #2 pick, and even Minny's 2021 pick for either Simmons or Embiid. And they said NO. They're very delusional fans.

[ShayDee]

Oh, Embiid talk here might have to get squashed. Philly might not trade Embiid and Simmons this summer(imo they should not and see how they are together with another coach) To Quote recent news from the guy:

Update:

PHI: Woj said it and it's true, Philly gonna fire Coach Brett Brown. They are looking at established coaches who have a tremendous plan for Simmons/Embiid/Harris/Richardson/Tybulle who they consider their core. Horford is on the trade block and does have an admirer. That admirer almost traded for his around the deadline but Philly wanted to see Al in the playoffs first. They should have traded him, it would have cost them a lot less. Mike Scott is also on the block. These items have been confirmed before the bubble if I remember right. They are targeting shooting a lot this offseason and plan to add a PG. Pritchard is a name he's heard that Philly likes.

Personal Opinion: They trade Horford/1st. They keep Mike Scott. Add some shooters in FA. My favorites for the HC job: Kenny Atkinson, Mike D'Antoni, and Mark Jackson.

Brooklyn: Already have announced who are targeting for coaches and aren't giving any leans behind the scenes. They would like to add one more impact piece their core and they want to resign Joe Harris as their main priority. A name that seemed like a lock for interest, Buddy Hield seems to have fallen back some. It seems Sacramento wants to keep him unless they are blown away by an offer. They do have interest in clearing cap but they want to continue to add young talent.

Taurean Prince who had no business getting 24 million/2 years is clearly the player they want to move. I never understood the trade in the 1st place. It was a steal for Atlanta but you have to remember, they needed to free cap room for KD. The thing was, why give Prince that contract and not let him play out the season. I guess they figured he would be much better and get way to costly like Joe Harris is doing. He's available with #19.

My personal opinion: Brooklyn hires Pop unless he declines to stay in SA and they keep Jacques. KD and Kyrie likes JV too and he proved he can be a good coach during the bubble. Prince/19 is traded for 2nd rounders. Brooklyn doesn't land the prime player they have been targeting. They resign Joe Harris. Brooklyn adds another shooter in FA off the bench to replace Prince.

Denver: I was told regardless what happens in the bubble playoffs, they want to run it back again with Harris and Barton being healthy. Would be interested in a Giannis rental if available which I was told wasn't at this time. They want to resign Millsap and Grant. They are targeting BPA in the draft.

My personal opinion: They try to resign their guys and run it back

Philly want to run it back maybe 1 more year with the core. Also question, would you guys take Prince if it meant having the 19th pick? There are some guys I like Around 19, Bane, Tyler Bey, Reed(reach), Terry, Green, Jalen Smith(might drop, he's getting sever lotto buzz), Precious, Bolmaro

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

I'm starting to wonder if Deni could be our target.

I think this too. I don't know why but feels like a Bob pick

Just been watching some of his tournament games and others' in-depth draft breakdown.... I don't know.... If Bob, Joe and Co. are banking on him to contribute on day 1, I just don't see it.

From what I saw, he seems to not be as patient and rush his shots (e.g., floaters, working in the post looking to score over bigger and stronger forwards), kind of over dribbles and doesn't wait for his teammates to get to their spots, and his shots are putrid... just wildly inconsistent. Only positives I see is that he's a willing passer and decent help defender, but that's it.

He'll definitely get a couple runs down (if not, A LOT) in the G-League to get accustom to the pace. But, as of right now, he's pretty green (He is 19 years old). If the Warriors were in rebuild mode, selecting him makes sense if they can be patient with his development.

Pass.

[wco81]

Would you trust him to take 3s?

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

After watching more video of Deni, picked up his tendencies (bad habits):

1) Whenever a player passes/kicks-out to him in the perimeter, he automatically (85-90% of the time) shoots the 3 ball (a la Klay and/or Carmelo). He's chucking at an alarming rate whenever they pass him the ball (And doesn't nail them at a successful rate, either), leaves me to believe he doesn't have a quick-first step (Or just average) to blow by his defender.

2) When he does go for a floater/layup, he can't finish/execute (Doesn't have body control; Probably will have trouble when defense comes at him.). He does this knee-jerk thing whenever he goes for a floater or layup

3) Transition game on the fast-break is HORRIBLE. Throws up layups and crashes into the defenders way too much banking for a call. Should look to pass more (Since that's his strength).

4) Post-game: Definitely likes to try to overpower his opponent (shorter or taller than him), and looks to always want to attack/score. Only to throw-up wild shots and doesn't read the help defense coming at him. He needs to calm down and read where his teammates are to make the right play.

5) PASSING abilities is not bad (e.g., In transition/fast-break, when he posts-up to draw double-teams and makes an easy pass in the key to teammate.). You'll see a bit of it at the 24:30 minute mark. Should be his bread and butter coming into the league.

6) Help defense. Pretty smart and has an awareness to provide it.

Please watch some and tell me these are the tendencies you're seeing, as well (He'll make his shots and layups here and there, but it's mostly undisciplined). If he was the league MVP, I'm sorry to say: Probably not much stiff competition in the league.

Watch on YouTube

All-in-all, I'd like it if he had a more complete, reliable offensive game. Probably would draft him if the players we want are off the board (Which, in this case, won't be likely). He is 19 years old, but he's nothing like boy-wonder Luka Doncic.

[Mylie10]

Nov.14,2019

I’m all in on Wiseman no matter what. He would keep our window of winning wide open for the long term.

[SpreeS]

No to Avdija, he is nothing like Doncic. Its Edwards or Wiseman, depends on MIN pick. I would look possability to trade Edwards if MIN choose Wiseman. Stay with Wiseman if MIN will pick Edwards. He could be our future.