Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

[basketballRob]

No way we'd get Edwards and Culver. A future first for Culver?

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I was suggesting:
ORL sends...Aaron Gordon, 2020 frp (#15) and 2022 frp (can you just trade the draftee after picking him and THEN next year's pick?)
MIN sends...James Johnson, Culver, and 2020 frp (#1)

this is assuming they are disappointed with Culver and want a re-try frp. If Culver outweighs the pick then it makes it even worse

The more I think about it, I'd almost rather get the 3rd or 4th for Killian than first for Edwards...assuming less trade capital required. I've really got doubts about Edwards, no interest in Wiseman, and scared to death of Ball. I fully expect to be wrong about at least one but...I don't know which

I'd rather just stay where we are and pick Maxey than move up to use assets to get Hayes. I could be wrong though.

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[MagicFan101]

I was suggesting:
ORL sends...Aaron Gordon, 2020 frp (#15) and 2022 frp (can you just trade the draftee after picking him and THEN next year's pick?)
MIN sends...James Johnson, Culver, and 2020 frp (#1)

this is assuming they are disappointed with Culver and want a re-try frp. If Culver outweighs the pick then it makes it even worse

The more I think about it, I'd almost rather get the 3rd or 4th for Killian than first for Edwards...assuming less trade capital required. I've really got doubts about Edwards, no interest in Wiseman, and scared to death of Ball. I fully expect to be wrong about at least one but...I don't know which

I'd rather just stay where we are and pick Maxey than move up to use assets to get Hayes. I could be wrong though.

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Sitting on our hands is the logic we played when we took whoever fell to us at #6=Bamba while others made moves to get the guy they wanted (Luka and Trae).

I’m sorry but I’m tired of sitting around letting things play out.

If there is someone we want then we need to make our own luck. AG, Bamba and others are not good enough to be scared of giving up as trade casualties.

[VFX]

Not a fan of Maxey. I think this is the draft this FO finds a way to get the player they want and not the player merely available to them.

[Knightro]

Not a fan of Maxey. I think this is the draft this FO finds a way to get the player they want and not the player merely available to them.

I'm not a huge Maxey fan either.

He's a pure 6'3" shooting guard to me. I don't see any tangible point guard skills there. And he just didn't make a lot of shots in college.

Undersized with a questionable jumper is not the kind of combo I really want to gamble on.

[Knightro]

Ok here's my first real crack at a big board. I'll go top 15 only since the Magic are picking 15th.

1. LaMelo Ball
2. Tyrese Haliburton
3. James Wiseman
4. Killian Hayes
5. Anthony Edwards
6. Onyeka Okongwu
7. Aleksej Pokusevski
8. RJ Hampton
9. Kira Lewis Jr.
10. Josh Green
11. Devin Vassell
12. Deni Avdija
13. Theo Maledon
14. Isaac Okoro
15. Xavier Tillman

Five I'm Higher on than Most
Xavier Tillman
Malachi Flynn
Paul Reed
Jared Butler
Jalen Smith

Five I'm Lower on than Most
Obi Toppin
Aaron Nesmith
Tyrese Maxey
Cole Anthony
Patrick Williams

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Not a fan of Maxey. I think this is the draft this FO finds a way to get the player they want and not the player merely available to them.

I'm not a huge Maxey fan either.

He's a pure 6'3" shooting guard to me. I don't see any tangible point guard skills there. And he just didn't make a lot of shots in college.

Undersized with a questionable jumper is not the kind of combo I really want to gamble on.

6’3” with a 6’7” wingspan is solid for a combo guard. He’s athletic and works on both sides of the ball. Calipari’s system tends to pigeon-hole players into roles as well so there could be unknown talent. He’s a Marcus Smart type dude IMO

[Knightro]

6’3” with a 6’7” wingspan is solid for a combo guard. He’s athletic and works on both sides of the ball. Calipari’s system tends to pigeon-hole players into roles as well so there could be unknown talent. He’s a Marcus Smart type dude IMO

Seems like more of a poor man's Marcus Smart to me.

Offensively they were pretty similar, but Smart was an absolutely elite defender at the college level and combined that with a relentless, insane level of hustle and effort that translated nicely in other areas.

Maxey was merely solid at most of the things Smart was spectacular at.

Marcus Smart Freshman Season
STL/100 - 5.3
DBPM - 6.2
REB/100 - 10.3
FTA/100 - 11.6

Tyrese Maxey Freshman Season
STL/100 - 1.5
DBPM - 2.0
REB/100 - 7.3
FTA/100 - 6.6

If he's Smart with less defense and less hustle (the two things that make Smart so special), I wouldn't touch him.

[MagicFan101]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2905724-keep-or-trade-what-every-nba-lottery-team-should-do-with-its-1st-round-pick.amp.html


This article mentions two AG trades:

1) AG for Oubre + #10. Now, do we have to give up #15 in this deal? If we get to keep our pick I might have some interest. Walking away with Devin Vassell + Kira Lewis might be a good haul even if it isn’t the star we need.

2) They claim AG is not enough to get GS interested in dealing the #2 pick but do suggest AG + Ross. I assume the full deal is:

AG + Ross + #15 for Wiggins + #2

Does this interest us or is this too much?

[Knightro]

AG for Oubre + #10.

AG + Ross + #15 for Wiggins + #2

I'd make either trade if it was available.

I don't care for Oubre, but he's expiring. Getting 10 for AG without giving up 15 seems like a no-brainer. The Magic could keep both picks and go with a combo of guys like Vassell/Lewis Jr. Or they could use one pick and pick Poku with the other, stashing him for another year. Or they could certainly package 10/15 together and get into the top 6 and snag the guy they really want (maybe Hayes?) without having to eat a terrible contract like Wiggins

At 2 you're guaranteed Edwards or Ball who both have all-star potential IMO. Worth the Wiggins tax.

[zaymon]

AG for Oubre + #10.

AG + Ross + #15 for Wiggins + #2

I'd make either trade if it was available.

I don't care for Oubre, but he's expiring. Getting 10 for AG without giving up 15 seems like a no-brainer. The Magic could keep both picks and go with a combo of guys like Vassell/Lewis Jr. Or they could use one pick and pick Poku with the other, stashing him for another year. Or they could certainly package 10/15 together and get into the top 6 and snag the guy they really want (maybe Hayes?) without having to eat a terrible contract like Wiggins

At 2 you're guaranteed Edwards or Ball who both have all-star potential IMO. Worth the Wiggins tax.

I would do first but not the second. If we are taking Wiggins i want both 2020 gsw frp and 2021 wolves frp. It propably means trading Vucevic, but he deserves it to contend with gsw.

[VFX]

Minnesota deal with AG or GS deal with Vuc. I’m happy with either.. just choose a direction and land Hayes.

[The Effect]

Five I'm Higher on than Most
Xavier Tillman
Malachi Flynn
Paul Reed
Jared Butler
Jalen Smith

As someone who goes to a ton of SDSU games every year and watched all their games, I'd LOVE to get Flynn on the magic. Dude is such a baller

I really want to see is seeing for the fences in the 2nd on a player like Karim mane, but if took Flynn (or picked up an extra second and took both)... Is be one happy magic fan

[cedric76]

Not a fan of Maxey. I think this is the draft this FO finds a way to get the player they want and not the player merely available to them.

I'm not a huge Maxey fan either.

He's a pure 6'3" shooting guard to me. I don't see any tangible point guard skills there. And he just didn't make a lot of shots in college.

Undersized with a questionable jumper is not the kind of combo I really want to gamble on.

I m not a huge fan but i think he would fit well next to Fultz.

He could play sg on offense and guard pg while fultz defend sg

Maxey is a Shot maker with a knack for making clutch plays on offense and defense; he’s a winner.

[pepe1991]

There are some wild moves Magic can make to unload lot of salary.

Bamba, Gordon for Patty MIlls, 11# pick and Gay for example.

Gay and Mills are exp contracts next year, add Evan to that and you have $44M of exp. salary. And pick.


Instant scoring punch.
Nets 19th pick and Levelrt for Gordon and Magic 15th pick ( if it's needed).
Instant scoring upgrade.
Magic will survive 1 year playing Aminu at PF.

Eric Gordon for - Aaron Gordon straight up.


Tank mode.
Barnes ,12# pick for Vuc



Over a top , wild one.
Hornets get Bamba, Gordon, Ross, Magic 2020 pick.
Magic get 3rd pick, Rozier and Zeller

[NotACat]

I'm saying no to any trade inviting Bamba. His value if rock bottom right and he's shown continuous improvement pre-COVID.

Bamba is not a throw in

[j-ragg]

I doubt Gordon could get a top pick. And I don’t really think Edwards would be worth the extra assets given up.

But I’d still give em props if they tried. As opposed to evaluating for 3 years.

[Xatticus]

Not a fan of Maxey. I think this is the draft this FO finds a way to get the player they want and not the player merely available to them.

I'm not a huge Maxey fan either.

He's a pure 6'3" shooting guard to me. I don't see any tangible point guard skills there. And he just didn't make a lot of shots in college.

Undersized with a questionable jumper is not the kind of combo I really want to gamble on.

He is pretty good at getting into the body of defenders and getting shots up in the paint. Eric Bledsoe maybe? But yeah... he just doesn't look to have a very high ceiling. We could do worse. I don't think he'll bust, but I'd rather get someone that has already shown some playmaking potential.

[zaymon]

Not a fan of Maxey. I think this is the draft this FO finds a way to get the player they want and not the player merely available to them.

I'm not a huge Maxey fan either.

He's a pure 6'3" shooting guard to me. I don't see any tangible point guard skills there. And he just didn't make a lot of shots in college.

Undersized with a questionable jumper is not the kind of combo I really want to gamble on.

He is pretty good at getting into the body of defenders and getting shots up in the paint. Eric Bledsoe maybe? But yeah... he just doesn't look to have a very high ceiling. We could do worse. I don't think he'll bust, but I'd rather get someone that has already shown some playmaking potential.

I would say Eric Bledsoe without playmaking and athletecism. He could be useful but only if his shot exploded and still his role would be smaller Matthews ( good role player).

[Skin]

There are some wild moves Magic can make to unload lot of salary.

Bamba, Gordon for Patty MIlls, 11# pick and Gay for example.

Gay and Mills are exp contracts next year, add Evan to that and you have $44M of exp. salary. And pick.


Instant scoring punch.
Nets 19th pick and Levelrt for Gordon and Magic 15th pick ( if it's needed).
Instant scoring upgrade.
Magic will survive 1 year playing Aminu at PF.

Eric Gordon for - Aaron Gordon straight up.


Tank mode.
Barnes ,12# pick for Vuc



Over a top , wild one.
Hornets get Bamba, Gordon, Ross, Magic 2020 pick.
Magic get 3rd pick, Rozier and Zeller

I love your posts like this. Makes me think you're actually open to change.

Something about you proposing a trade where we get Rozier makes me smile.

[pepe1991]

There are some wild moves Magic can make to unload lot of salary.

Bamba, Gordon for Patty MIlls, 11# pick and Gay for example.

Gay and Mills are exp contracts next year, add Evan to that and you have $44M of exp. salary. And pick.


Instant scoring punch.
Nets 19th pick and Levelrt for Gordon and Magic 15th pick ( if it's needed).
Instant scoring upgrade.
Magic will survive 1 year playing Aminu at PF.

Eric Gordon for - Aaron Gordon straight up.


Tank mode.
Barnes ,12# pick for Vuc



Over a top , wild one.
Hornets get Bamba, Gordon, Ross, Magic 2020 pick.
Magic get 3rd pick, Rozier and Zeller

I love your posts like this. Makes me think you're actually open to change.

Something about you proposing a trade where we get Rozier makes me smile.

Rozier is dead weight that needs to even salaries for pick