Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich

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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#21 » by RoundMoundOfRebound » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:34 pm

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Post#22 » by gigantes » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:39 pm

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It’s almost as if we’ve never had the displeasure of watching JKidd coach in the NBA.

Yes, but we've also had the pleasure, as well.

- He did a good job with the Nets, and in retrospect, was absolutely right in wanting more team-oriented players and less big names, as King and Prokhy had been pursuing for years.

- He did a great job in making #15 pick Giannis the focal point of the Bucks, and left the team much better off than when he took over.

That said, as both a Nets and a Kidd fan, and outside of getting Pop, I'd rather stick with Vaughn for now. He's shown a strong rapport with his players, and other than the inevitable Raptors sweep, his results speak for themselves.

But this prevalent idea that Kidd is a terrible coach or something is just BS. He's clearly not in Budenholzer's league yet, but he's still fairly new to the head coaching game and certainly has room to grow. Kidd also admitted that he learned a lot and would do some things differently, just what you'd want to hear from a youngish HC.


He did an ok job with the Nets, before he worked his way out of the organization mid contract to take a job With another tram (Self serving, questionable loyalty and questionable business ethics, no?) And he did a terrible job in a much bigger sample with the Bucks. This last part cannot be spun into something positive.

That's not facts and reality, though.

Kidd indeed accomplished the things I stated above, and the records bear that out. You or anyone else casually spinning all that as negative is what I'm talking about here.

I do agree that he forced himself out of BRK, and it was ugly, but again... context matters. Because his GM had spent years doing a god-awful job of assembling a cohesive team, and Kidd (and anyone else paying attention) knew that something had to change, fast. So yeah, going over King's head wasn't the diplomatic thing to do, but there was a perfectly good reason for doing so, and I can respect him for that.

If Prokhy had been able to admit his plan was failing (which he wound up doing a couple years later, anyway), Kidd wouldn't have gone to the Bucks at that time. It was a clusterf-ck of a situation no matter who was head coach, and wouldn't have gone any better if Kidd had decided to stay as the HC without any influence on personnel.

And that is the point with all that.
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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#23 » by RB34 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:43 pm

Their names should never be in the same sentence, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#24 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:09 pm

Kidd is fine, but I would prefer Mark Jackson

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Post#25 » by Gothic » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:06 pm

If Popovic were to die tommorow, his corpse would still be a better option than Kidd.

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Post#26 » by HeartBreakKid » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:23 pm

I see Kidd coming back improved - I don't think Lue and Jackson would change much.

Kidd is a very experimental coach...maybe a bit too much for his own good but I'm sure he realized he dun goof'd in Milwaukee.

I dont think Mark Jackson has a single clue why he was fired.
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Post#27 » by TheProdigy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:20 pm

nycefnl wrote:Jason Kidd knows the Nets organization. He also knows potential rivals Bucks and Lakers inner workings and their plays which would be one of the Nets biggest rivals. Kyrie idolized him growing up and Kidd played with as good a scorer in Dirk and won a championship. And Nets wouldn't have to give up assets to get him.

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Post#30 » by Bornstellar » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:08 pm

I've ripped Pop plenty this season as he is slipping into senility but even old senile Pop is still better than any version of Kidd as a coach
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Post#31 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:15 pm

Doris Burke would be a better NBA coach than Jason Kidd.
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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#32 » by dc » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:12 am

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Kidd is fine, but I would prefer Mark Jackson


Please don't revive the Mark Jackson non-sense. No competent organization wants this guy anywhere near their team.
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Post#33 » by Prez » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:15 am

gigantes wrote:
The_Hater wrote:This thread will not end well.

It’s almost as if we’ve never had the displeasure of watching JKidd coach in the NBA.

Yes, but we've also had the pleasure, as well.

- He did a good job with the Nets, and in retrospect, was absolutely right in wanting more team-oriented players and less big names, as King and Prokhy had been pursuing for years.

- He did a great job in making #15 pick Giannis the focal point of the Bucks, and left the team much better off than when he took over.

That said, as both a Nets and a Kidd fan, and outside of getting Pop, I'd rather stick with Vaughn for now. He's shown a strong rapport with his players, and other than the inevitable Raptors sweep, his results speak for themselves.

But this prevalent idea that Kidd is a terrible coach or something is just BS. He's clearly not in Budenholzer's league yet, but he's still fairly new to the head coaching game and certainly has room to grow. Kidd also admitted that he learned a lot and would do some things differently, just what you'd want to hear from a youngish HC.

Kidd was the worst coach in the league during his time with the Bucks. He had one pretty good season in his first year with the Bucks before the entire league figured out his gimmicky defensive scheme, but once that happened he was an absolute dumpster fire of a coach with next to no redeeming qualities.
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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#34 » by Par36 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:17 am

He wouldn't be. *Drop mic*

(Not that it matters, Pop is not joining the Nets)
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Post#35 » by xdrta+ » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:42 am

Par36 wrote:He wouldn't be. *Drop mic*

(Not that it matters, Pop is not joining the Nets)


Yeah, it's not like they have a choice between them.
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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#36 » by gigantes » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:55 am

Prez wrote:
gigantes wrote:
The_Hater wrote:This thread will not end well.

It’s almost as if we’ve never had the displeasure of watching JKidd coach in the NBA.

Yes, but we've also had the pleasure, as well.

- He did a good job with the Nets, and in retrospect, was absolutely right in wanting more team-oriented players and less big names, as King and Prokhy had been pursuing for years.

- He did a great job in making #15 pick Giannis the focal point of the Bucks, and left the team much better off than when he took over.

That said, as both a Nets and a Kidd fan, and outside of getting Pop, I'd rather stick with Vaughn for now. He's shown a strong rapport with his players, and other than the inevitable Raptors sweep, his results speak for themselves.

But this prevalent idea that Kidd is a terrible coach or something is just BS. He's clearly not in Budenholzer's league yet, but he's still fairly new to the head coaching game and certainly has room to grow. Kidd also admitted that he learned a lot and would do some things differently, just what you'd want to hear from a youngish HC.

Kidd was the worst coach in the league during his time with the Bucks. He had one pretty good season in his first year with the Bucks before the entire league figured out his gimmicky defensive scheme, but once that happened he was an absolute dumpster fire of a coach with next to no redeeming qualities.

I don't disagree, but what I said above is also true.

Kidd deserves credit for the things he did right, and critique for the things he did poorly.

I also give him some latitude as still quite a fresh HC at the time, with no prior asst coaching experience. IMO immediately starting as a HC was a mistake at the time that he's since made progress on, obviously.

The idea that Kidd's automatically a terrible HC for ever and ever is no doubt a fun narrative for some, but it doesn't make much sense as I see it.
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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#37 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:57 am

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Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Kidd is fine, but I would prefer Mark Jackson


Please don't revive the Mark Jackson non-sense. No competent organization wants this guy anywhere near their team.


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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#38 » by popfan » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:59 am

Greg Popovich is often the smartest man in the room. He's the greatest coach in the history of the NBA. The idea that Kidd would be a better strategist than Pop defies history.
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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#39 » by Paradise » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:09 am

Nazrmohamed wrote:
MrPerfect1 wrote:The OP might be right:

-KD might need time to recover from injury

-With Kidd, Nets would either Miss playoffs or lose in Round 1

-KD gets extra rest not having to worry about the playoffs

**This is some 4D Chess/189 IQ stuff going on


When is the estimated time for recovery supposed to end for KD?

He’s been healthy since March.

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Re: Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich 

Post#40 » by LewisnotMiller » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:53 am

Jason Kidd worked on his jumper throughout his whole career, and by the time he was done he could make the three well enough to play on a champion team.
Based on that, and his coaching efforts to date, I suppose the OP might be right if willing to invest the next 20 years into the coach. After all, Pop will be struggling with incontinence by then.

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