***Around The League 2020 Bubble Thread***

Post #161 » by **Klomp** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:28 pm

minimus wrote:
Klomp wrote:I feel like the bubble is showing the importance of elite offensive talents over defense.

I'd say elite offensive talents in elite team offense. For instance, Luka in top NBA DAL offense.

Dallas is top offense because of Luka.

moonpie · Post #162 » by **moonpie** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:22 pm

What were our offensive rankings/numbers looking like post DLO/Malik/Juancho trades?

Post #163 » by **Calinks** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:10 am

Chris Dunn over Jamal Murray.

Neeva · Post #164 » by **Neeva** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:19 am

Calinks wrote:Chris Dunn over Jamal Murray.

I do not like his personality but I believe he really wanted to be in Minnesota, Calipari even pleaded for Minnesota to pick him but Thibs is a **** up.

Baseline81 · Post #165 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:01 am

Calinks wrote:Chris Dunn over Jamal Murray.

It was the most obvious pick. On Rube Chat, I remember defending Murray (and his bow and arrow celebration) against those who preferred Dunn and Hield. It was destined to be Dunn, though, with Thibs as the coach/GM.

Post #166 » by **Klomp** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:37 am

Dunn had me fooled.

MN7725 · Post #167 » by **MN7725** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:47 am

moonpie wrote:What were our offensive rankings/numbers looking like post DLO/Malik/Juancho trades?

16th from time of trade to end of season, mostly without KAT

4th worst net rating in that time too

Post #168 » by **Calinks** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:45 am

Neeva wrote:
Calinks wrote:Chris Dunn over Jamal Murray.

I do not like his personality but I believe he really wanted to be in Minnesota, Calipari even pleaded for Minnesota to pick him but Thibs is a **** up.

All I knew about him was what I saw of him the FIBA Canada games. I was super impressed with how he lead those teams and a kid. I was sold on draft night but after we took Dunn I drank the kool aid.

packforfreedom · Post #169 » by **packforfreedom** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:03 am

Murray and KAT would have been such a great fit. smh

minimus · Post #170 » by **minimus** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:48 am

Watching Jokic and Murray play, I feel bad for KAT who before DLo never had a backcourt teammate who can both shoot and pass. Jokic and Murray have such a great opportunity to play, grow together for a few years, helping each other, elevating each other. I hope KAT-DLo duo can grow the same way.

minimus · Post #171 » by **minimus** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:22 pm

Watch on YouTube

Excellent video about TOR-BOS series. Thinking about MIN next season I hope to see these three improvements:

* - committing as a team to defensive rebounding. Not allowing easy second-chance points
* - limiting unnecessary turnovers
* - kind of sacrificing offensive rebounding in favor of better transition defense. See example of PHI struggling to defend transition, because they play two big men in lineup.

These two things combined might help us to be an effective transition. If we have more fast-break opportunities, it might translate athleticism and 3pt shooting into a serious advantage.

P.S. I also would like to see MIN team stats in transition last season, but without our leading rebounder KAT it is useless.

minimus · Post #172 » by **minimus** » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:05 pm

Watch on YouTube

Does our offense look anything like DAL offense in that game against LAC?

Jedzz · Post #173 » by **Jedzz** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:40 am

minimus wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Does our offense look anything like DAL offense in that game against LAC?

That clip doesn't do the offense of that day any justice at all. It skips half the things Jmac did in the second quarter to help take over that game and blow it wide open whether scoring or driving and kicking and feeding others. It shows like one 3, a layup, two assists and a dunk through the second and third quarter from him and that's maybe a quarter of what happened during that time. He was like an aggressive glue guy and the rest of the players were an extension of his fingers.

Dal is missing someone like JMac and could really use someone with that bbiq and burst like him for Luka to fall back on in this series with Clippers. Having only an up and down Trey Burke(good singular effort Sunday but he's not creating for anyone), and maybe a 70% looking Barea(not really playing) as options for them in these playooffs. It's all been on Luka which has looked painful as he plays on a tweaked ankle. He's got no one else to lean the offensive pressure playmaking or leadership on with KP missing every game. You can see the moment come when he's pretty much just done waiting for the balance of the team to help stop the 20 pt Clippers runs on them. He takes over and it's all him from there. Even Seth Curry isn't getting normal 3pt attempts(3 in past two games total) as it looks like its come down to Luka iso or tricks to get one pass off for one open look for someone. Pretty thin offensive possesions lately.

Jedzz · Post #174 » by **Jedzz** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:44 am

I had no idea they canceled all the games today until I couldn't find a game playiing. Ridiculously sad event in Kenosha.

karch34 · Post #175 » by **karch34** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:40 am

Jedzz wrote:I had no idea they canceled all the games today until I couldn't find a game playiing. Ridiculously sad event in Kenosha.

Saw update this afternoon. Very sad event. I give credit to the players for standing up for what they believe in regardless of cost. And this will cost them. money, possibly legacy, and future economic freedom with potential for new CBA/lock out. Easy to take a stand when you have nothing to lose, but even if they are paid well they are sacrificing considerably more than others who did nothing
with very little at risk.

Jedzz · Post #176 » by **Jedzz** » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:04 am

karch34 wrote:
Jedzz wrote:I had no idea they canceled all the games today until I couldn't find a game playiing. Ridiculously sad event in Kenosha.

Saw update this afternoon. Very sad event. I give credit to the players for standing up for what they believe in regardless of cost. And this will cost them. money, possibly legacy, and future economic freedom with potential for new CBA/lock out. Easy to take a stand when you have nothing to lose, but even if they are paid well they are sacrificing considerably more than others who did nothing
with very little at risk.

It reminds me of what people have said terrorists want to have happen in the countries they attack. To spread fear and break down the normal day to day of the country. The sad part is it's our own people doing this lately and it's not excuseable.

Post #177 » by **Calinks** » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:13 am

Kriss Dunn can't hold Jamal Murray's jockstrap.

southern wolf · Post #178 » by **southern wolf** » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:21 am

Kris Dunn will haunt us all to our graves.

Neeva · Post #179 » by **Neeva** » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:45 am

southern wolf wrote:Thibodeau will haunt us all to our graves.

Fixed it!

Wolves could have Murray and MPJ on their roster right now.

Jedzz · Post #180 » by **Jedzz** » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:47 am

Neeva wrote:
southern wolf wrote:Thibodeau will haunt us all to our graves.

Fixed it!

Wolves could have Murray and MPJ on their roster right now.

Add him to the list of GMs making the wrong picks here.

Even 2019. Could have had quick to perform Herro, Johnson, PJ Washington, Thybulle, or even Bol Bol, Tacko Fall!

Celtics fans chant MVP when Tacko Falls gets garbage minutes in blow out wins cause he's just so dang interesting. At least they got that!