Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[DT RAW]

Horford to the pelicans
Lonzo and reddick to the sixers.

If we have to throw in a first we do it.

Next year

PG-Lonzo Shake
SG-Richardson reddick Furkan
SF Tobias Thybulle Zhaire
PF Ben Scott
C Embiid Pelle

lonzo and ben on the same team let alone same starting lineup is a NIGHTMARE of horrific proportions

[Sam Hinkie]

We have to trade Embiid or Simmons if we want a chance at a title next year. We need to trade them for at least .90 on the dollar for players that fit better with the remaining star.

[Sam Hinkie]

My suggested trade of Harris/Simmons to the Hornets also creates way more cap flexibility after 2021. Would have max space to pair someone with Embiid. And they'd have two seasons (with Paul) with a legit chance at a title.

[51X3RF4N]

If Embiid wanted out hypothetically i'd AD the Hawks.

Collins + Capela (salary) + Huerter + Reddish/Hunter (pick one) + #6 (Hayes) + a 2022 1st

Hayes
Huerter
Simmons
Collins
Horford

Reddish/Hunter, Richardson, Thybulle, Harris, Capela, Shake

Hire Jay Wright

This is the same deal, or similar, to what I've been throwing around the internet.

Mine included Charlotte...

To PHI: Zeller, Batum, Rozier, McDaniels, #6, Collins, Dedmon, Hunter

To CLT: Harris, Horford and Capela

To ATL: Embiid, Richardson

Resulting lineups:

ATL
C- Embiid
PF- Reddish
SF- Huerter
SG- Richardson
PG- Trae

Atlanta becomes one of the most exciting teams to watch. 4 shooters around Embiid. Not the best defense out there but Embiid defends the paint at least.

CLT
C- Horford/Capela
PF- Harris/Washington
SF- Bridges/Martin
SG- Monk/Martin
PG- Graham/LaMelo?

Charlotte adds 3 win now pieces to their forever struggling front court and now has insurance in case Graham demands too much money or in case LaMelo is a bust. And strong depth. That lineup challenges for a 5 or 6 seed in the East.

PHI
C- Collins/Dedmon/Zeller
PF- Simmons/McDaniels/Scott
SF- Hunter/Korkmaz/Batum
SG- Shake/Thybulle/Zhaire
PG- Rozier/Haliburton

Philly resets in a big way.

You surround Simmons with guys who can make some plays off the bounce, and you give him a perfect front court partner in Collins who can do it all on the court and doesn't demand much to help the team.

You stay fairly decent on defense. You get a young stretch 4 prospect who won't play many minutes behind Simmons but can develop as part of that bench group.

You have a young PG prospect who will take over for Rozier as a starter in due time. Zeller, Scott and Batum all expire at the end of the season, so you can sign Collins to an extension and bring Korkmaz back.

That Philly team is still competitive and deep, and is now younger and fits better in an up-tempo pace and space lineup.

[Sam Hinkie]

Atlanta is an interesting team to trade for Embiid, I think that makes a ton of sense for them. But, I really dislike the return for the Sixers. And don't see the point for the Hornets.

[DT RAW]

I think the bulls, pelicans, and blazers are our best trade partners

The bulls have some really good pieces that would fit around simmons or embiid, and they would be interested in either or IMO

lavine, porter, markannen, carter are all pieces I would want

[ProcessDoctor]

I don't think there's been any indication that the Thunder merely want to salary dump Chris Paul. Despite his contract, he's been validating himself as an asset. I think it's going to take a pick and probably a prospect worth a damn to get him.

I don't want to give up #21 plus Thybulle.

How about JRich as the "prospect"? I wouldn't give up Thybulle or #21 for him.

HOU out: Gordon, Tucker
HOU in: Horford

OKC out: Paul
OKC in: Richardson, Gordon, Tucker (exp), #36, #58

PHI out: Richardson, Horford, #36, #58
PHI in: Paul

Followed by Harris + Smith for Hield (your boy ) + Bjelica


Paul(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Korkmaz(12)/Milton(4)
Thybulle(30)/Simmons(14)/Korkmaz(4)
Simmons(20)/Bjelica(28)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Paul/Milton/Micic
Hield/Korkmaz/#49
Thybulle/#21/#34
Simmons/Bjelica/Scott
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

tucker is the perfect small ball 4 for houston.. and why in gods name is OKC getting 3 good players and 2 picks for paul? why are we treating paul like lebron james?

Houston doesn't skip a beat, they just slide Covington to the 4:

Westbrook/Rivers
Harden/Mclemore
House
Covington/Carroll
Horford/Green


I've told you, specifically, several times that Chris Paul is still a very high impact player. He ranks at the top in every advanced metric. He's the biggest reason the Thunder made a playoff push in the first place and are tied 2-2 with Houston. I personally think that's a fair package for him. Would you be willing to share what you think he's worth?

[51X3RF4N]

Atlanta is an interesting team to trade for Embiid, I think that makes a ton of sense for them. But, I really dislike the return for the Sixers. And don't see the point for the Hornets.

Atlanta can give more picks back, but what do they really have to offer for Embiid? Collins is a rising star who can space the floor from the 5 spot, defend the paint, score from the post, rebound...

Hunter is a fantastic fit as a catch and shoot 3 and D wing.

Simmons needs to be surrounded by catch and shoot guys.

John Collins last year on catch and shoot 3s- 3.3 per game attempted and he shot 42%.

Al Horford- 4.0 per game attempted, and he shot 35%.

Tobias Harris 3.8 attempted shot 38.0%.
Josh Richardson 3.4 attempted shot 34%.

Hunter 4.1 attempted shot 38.6%.

Rozier 3.7 attempted shot 45.9%
McDaniels in small sample shot 1.5 per game at 37.5%.

Haliburton was in the 98th percentile with 1.49 points per catch and shoot 3pt shot, which means he hit about half of them, right?

Those are the guys you want around Simmons.


As for why Charlotte does it...same reason they would trade for your Simmons/Harris deal...except in this deal they only give up 2 expirings, 1 PG they don't need, and a future PF prospect, and in return they get 3 starting caliber front court players to go along with their already solid backcourt, and keep their #3 pick.

[DT RAW]

How about JRich as the "prospect"? I wouldn't give up Thybulle or #21 for him.

HOU out: Gordon, Tucker
HOU in: Horford

OKC out: Paul
OKC in: Richardson, Gordon, Tucker (exp), #36, #58

PHI out: Richardson, Horford, #36, #58
PHI in: Paul

Followed by Harris + Smith for Hield (your boy ) + Bjelica


Paul(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Korkmaz(12)/Milton(4)
Thybulle(30)/Simmons(14)/Korkmaz(4)
Simmons(20)/Bjelica(28)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Paul/Milton/Micic
Hield/Korkmaz/#49
Thybulle/#21/#34
Simmons/Bjelica/Scott
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

tucker is the perfect small ball 4 for houston.. and why in gods name is OKC getting 3 good players and 2 picks for paul? why are we treating paul like lebron james?

Houston doesn't skip a beat, they just slide Covington to the 4:

Westbrook/Rivers
Harden/Mclemore
House
Covington/Carroll
Horford/Green


I've told you, specifically, several times that Chris Paul is still a very high impact player. He ranks at the top in every advanced metric. He's the biggest reason the Thunder made a playoff push in the first place and are tied 2-2 with Houston. I personally think that's a fair package for him. Would you be willing to share what you think he's worth?

I think hes worth slightly more than tobias or horford alone. All 3 are good players way over paid and in pauls case super injury prone and extremely old.

I would take paul on this team but last offseason teams were talking about the thubder having to pay to get rid of him.. now 1 year later when hes another year older we are saying he is worth a pretty substantial haul?

No way. Id give harris and picks for him. Im not including jrich because i think we can get dinwiddie or a similar type of player for jrich

[Sam Hinkie]

If the Sixers keep Embiid/Simmons they have to trade for Chris Paul to make it work.

Phi In:

Chris Paul
JJ Redick
Terry Rozier
Meli

Phi Out

Al Horford
Josh Richardson
Tobias Harris
Zhaire Smith
Mike Scott
21st Overall
2022 1st
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OKC In:

Zhaire
2022 1st
Batum (Expiring)
Zeller (Expiring)

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Cha In:

Lonzo
Harris
21st Overall
Darius Miller (Expiring)
Mike Scott (Expiring)

Cha Out

Rozier
Batum (Expiring)
Zeller (Expiring)
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NOP In

Josh Richardson
Al Horford

NOP Out

Lonzo Ball
JJ Redick
Darius Miller
Meli
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Pelicans:

PG- Jrue
SG- Josh
SF- Ingram
PF- Zion
C- Horford

Sixers:

PG- CP3, Rozier
SG- Redick, Shake
SF- Matisse, Korkmaz
PF- Ben Simmons
C- Embiid, Meli
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Can someone please let me know why this wouldn't happen? I really think it makes sense for all the teams involved..........

[ProcessDoctor]

tucker is the perfect small ball 4 for houston.. and why in gods name is OKC getting 3 good players and 2 picks for paul? why are we treating paul like lebron james?

Houston doesn't skip a beat, they just slide Covington to the 4:

Westbrook/Rivers
Harden/Mclemore
House
Covington/Carroll
Horford/Green


I've told you, specifically, several times that Chris Paul is still a very high impact player. He ranks at the top in every advanced metric. He's the biggest reason the Thunder made a playoff push in the first place and are tied 2-2 with Houston. I personally think that's a fair package for him. Would you be willing to share what you think he's worth?

I think hes worth slightly more than tobias or horford alone. All 3 are good players way over paid and in pauls case super injury prone and extremely old.

I would take paul on this team but last offseason teams were talking about the thubder having to pay to get rid of him.. now 1 year later when hes another year older we are saying he is worth a pretty substantial haul?

No way. Id give harris and picks for him. Im not including jrich because i think we can get dinwiddie or a similar type of player for jrich

I think the reason his value has increased is because of what he did with OKC this year. They were poised to rebuild, and he made them good enough to the point where they were tanking in an attempt to keep their top-20 protected pick (and failed ) He was supposed to be washed last summer when OKC was shopping him.

I think the biggest thing going in our favor to get him for cheap is that he has no market. The contending teams who might be interested don't have the contracts to realistically make a trade work (LAL, LAC, MIL, MIA). I can't imagine a lotto or borderline-playoff team making a push for him.

Lots of Dinwiddie love around here, which I get. He's a PNR god. He might be redundant in Brooklyn, so may be available. I like him as a backup option. I just think one question matters: who is most likely to help us win a championship over the next 3-4 years? To me, and I may be wrong, that's CP3 by a wide margin over Dinwiddie.

[51X3RF4N]

If the Sixers keep Embiid/Simmons they have to trade for Chris Paul to make it work.

Phi In:

Chris Paul
JJ Redick
Terry Rozier
Meli

Phi Out

Al Horford
Josh Richardson
Tobias Harris
Zhaire Smith
Mike Scott
21st Overall
2022 1st
---------------------
OKC In:

Zhaire
2022 1st
Batum (Expiring)
Zeller (Expiring)

--------------------

Cha In:

Lonzo
Harris
21st Overall
Darius Miller (Expiring)
Mike Scott (Expiring)

Cha Out

Rozier
Batum (Expiring)
Zeller (Expiring)
-----------------------

NOP In

Josh Richardson
Al Horford

NOP Out

Lonzo Ball
JJ Redick
Darius Miller
Meli
---------------------------

Pelicans:

PG- Jrue
SG- Josh
SF- Ingram
PF- Zion
C- Horford

Sixers:

PG- CP3, Rozier
SG- Redick, Shake
SF- Matisse, Korkmaz
PF- Ben Simmons
C- Embiid, Meli
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Can someone please let me know why this wouldn't happen? I really think it makes sense for all the teams involved..........

I don't think OKC wants to trade Paul. That's the first piece to this. And I don't see why Charlotte would trade for Lonzo when they are likely going to draft LaMelo.

I also don't think this deal helps Philly all that much. Giving up all of your 3 starters and bringing back 2 PGs and 1 SG is a little difficult because now you have to start Thybulle at the 3. I wouldn't do that deal if I'm Philly.

[DT RAW]

Okc was never tanking. They still had paul, schroeder, adams, and gallinari on top of sga.. thats not a tanking team. They just happen to have an incredible GM who kept a good team while accumulating a million picks

[51X3RF4N]

Also, if the plan is to build around Simmons, Harris and Embiid (because Harris is likely close to untradable), then I'm moving Simmons back to the PG role and putting Tobias back at PF. And Horford is coming off the bench. Thats the only way it makes sense on the floor. Tobias is far better at PF. Simmons can still play initiator and then go off ball.

Shake, until he proves he can't consistently knock down deep catch and shoot 3s, will be my starting SG. Thats literally all they need him to do. And if he can work the 2 man game with Embiid with the DHOs, even better.

So it comes down to Richardson being moved for someone who can truly space the floor while defending the quicker PGs around the league. He needs to be able to hit shots from deep range with consistency. And not just catch and shoot but step into his own shots by creating space.

Find me that guy, and flip Richardson/Scott/Zhaire for him.

As for the bench...

Horford
Thybulle

Then a bunch of questions.

I am a big fan of Derrick White from the Spurs. They don't technically need him as they are guard heavy. Would they be willing to part with him for Korkmaz and the 21st pick?

This would at least give us a legit backup PG who can hit some 3s and is lightning quick and a solid defender.

Still need a backup PF and SF, but the 8 man playoff rotation would be set.

[ProcessDoctor]

Okc was never tanking. They still had paul, schroeder, adams, and gallinari on top of sga.. thats not a tanking team. They just happen to have an incredible GM who kept a good team while accumulating a million picks

I think you misunderstood me. I meant tanking towards the end of the season (i.e. bubble) to keep their pick.

The murmurs at the beginning of the season do not mirror how things turned out. CP3, Gallo, and Adams were all attainable at the right price. For whatever reason they didn’t find deals for them.

[ankle420breaker]

Harris, Korkmaz, Zhaire, two 2nd rounders for Blake and D Rose.

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[ankle420breaker]

Embiid for CJ, Nurkic, Trent Jr, two firsts.

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[Wilfried]

Embiid for CJ, Nurkic, Trent Jr, two firsts.

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Too much to give up for Portland I feel

[youngcrev]

Harris, Richardson, Scott
For
Conley, Bogdanovic

Sixers get a veteran lead guard and a sniper. The Jazz get a scorer that they had interest in this summer and a perimeter defender.

CHI: Andrew Wiggins, #2 overall, #21 overall, #36 overall
GSW: Al Horford, Zhaire Smith, #4 overall
PHI: Zach LaVine, Thad Young

The Bulls move on from LaVine, moving up in the draft to pair White with Ball in their backcourt.

The Warriors get a bad player for a quality veteran center at the cost of sliding back 2 spots in the draft.

The Sixers get a scoring guard.

Sign Alex Len (minimum)
Sign Noah Vonleh (minimum)

Hire Jay Wright

G Mike Conley
G Matisse Thybulle
F Bojan Bogdanovic
F Ben Simmons
C Joel Embiid
6 Zach LaVine (plays starter minutes and closes games)
7 Thad Young
8 Shake Milton
...

Sixers add a ton of shooting and perimeter playmaking while still having a solid base to be a very good defensive team. Conley gives them a steady hand at the point that can run pick and roll, be a spot up and shooter, and defend the point of attack. LaVine would need some serious convincing to come off the bench, but he'd be an amazing 6th man. Young intrigues me as a small ball 5 off the bench in an uptempo, Simmons lineup. Long-term salary picture looks a lot brighter after this.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'd personally move Ben back to the point guard position and play Harris at power forward IF we can't find a deal for him. Let Shake and JRich guard backcourt players and Simmons check the small forwards on opposite teams. We can sign Tyler Johnson, and Bryan Forbes to reasonable contracts.

Or.. If possible. Portland fans seem to be open to trading CJ for Tobias Harris. That's honestly the deal I would do. CJ/Shake backcourt and find a trade for Richardson. Sign affordable athletic wings...There are some available Alfonso Mckinnie, Josh Jackson, Michael Kidd Gilchrist, Demarre Carroll all can be signed within our price range.

I would also look to deal Mike Scott who is expiring. Maybe send him and Richardson together?