The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5)

[RCM88x]

How many ppl in China are having Blm protests? Every region has their own issues and the world will never be unified in terms of conflict within their own sectors, only for worldwide issues like an epidemic or alien invasion or something like that. I dont know why African American athletes are always asked to speak up on topics not directly affecting them when they have their own issues within their own residence

He was asked because it directly impacted the league. He could have said he wasn't educated on the issue, or it's not his place to speak, but he attacked someone who was trying to speak up.

I don't really know how people can not have a problem with what LeBron said and then call people out for saying All Lives Matter or whatever. Both try and take away from that specific cause.

He's asking people who aren't impacted by police violence against black American to care about the issue. Despite saying the opposite about another issue. Doesn't mean what he's fighting for means less. It just means people are less likely to back his words or have sympathy for the cause he supports.

If you want to change things you have to get people on your side, not divide and alienate them.

[MisterHibachi]

From what I recall, all he said about Hong Kong was that he was upset that Morey tweeted that while the players were in China. He seemed more upset about Morey putting them in a difficult situation while in China rather than waiting for them to be back in the US before speaking.

In any case, people really only bring up Hong Kong wrt LeBron as a whataboutism.

[Greyhound]

Wasn't his statement along the lines of people need to educate themselves better on the issue? I don't think he can claim ignorance in this case. Ultimately it hurts his look as a person and the message he's trying to push, which is unfortunate but it's the path he chose. Ultimately though he cares about himself above all like most people so there are certainly worst things that could have been said or done.

Stating that people need to educate themselves better on an issue does not absolve you yourself from the ranks of “people”. He himself is ignorant on the issue and that statement you went along the lines of is indicative of nothing.

LeBron try’s to speak for his culture, his community and his demographic. I am absolutely sure that he put little to no thought on the plight of Hong Kong beyond the fact that he did not appreciate the GM of the Rockets stirring up a hornets nest while NBA players (himself included) were on foreign soil (inside the nest).

LeBron cares about Hong Kong about as much as the typical man from Hong Kong cares about BLM. I don’t see anything wrong with that.

[Heej]

Do you guys think Lebron is a bit of a hypocrite for his handling of the HK and China incident?

Doesn't mean that only fighting cases here or to African Americans is a bad thing, but is it hypocritical to only care for one race moreso than another?

Or is it good that Lebron didn't hurt his pockets because he uses that money and voice to fix issues here and issues closer to him?

I think he's more ignorant if anything, as we all are. Definitely a bit hypocritical but most of it is based on ignorance because he's not as informed on those issues as he is on those of African Americans

[Dupp]

Read on Twitter

[Baski]

Y'all remember people saying Dame is better than AD? Pepperidge Farm remembers

I stand by it

[Joey Wheeler]

Y'all remember people saying Dame is better than AD? Pepperidge Farm remembers

I stand by it

You do ? Completely different tiers of players. AD has career playoff numbers that stack up even against Jordan and Lebron and I believe they will hold up even with deep runs into CF and Finals, he's just that good a player, an unbelievable talent.

Dame, great player, not really all that when teams clamp down on him in the playoffs. Even on offense alone, there's a very serious case for taking AD over Dame, AD's offense is so much more resilient. Sure he can't be the offensive anchor/initiatior for a contender, but Dame can't either...

[MyUniBroDavis]

Y'all remember people saying Dame is better than AD? Pepperidge Farm remembers

I stand by it

You do ? Completely different tiers of players. AD has career playoff numbers that stack up even against Jordan and Lebron and I believe they will hold up even with deep runs into CF and Finals, he's just that good a player, an unbelievable talent.

Dame, great player, not really all that when teams clamp down on him in the playoffs. Even on offense alone, there's a very serious case for taking AD over Dame, AD's offense is so much more resilient. Sure he can't be the offensive anchor/initiatior for a contender, but Dame can't either...

I mean the only thing with dame is when they trap him he doesnt do great, and alot of that is on the personnell rather than his weaknesses, yeah he forces things at times but for example if curry didnt have a guy like draymond he wouldnt do well against traps either, its not a knock on either of the players its that the defense forces it into a 4v3 situation but neither nurkic or whiteside can do anything as short roll men. They dint have the passing ability of draymond or the scoring ability of AD in that situation, yiu can survive those situations with one or the other but not without both. I still think lillard is about as good ON BALL as curry, not as smart and forces things more but a better slasher

ADs main limitation is his passing which is looking alot better though. First playoff stint AD was pretty much exclusively an off ball guy which isnt neccessarily a bad thing

ADs defense against portland was legit ridiculous though, if he maintains that for a whole playoff run with good offense its an ATG playoff run no cap

[freethedevil]

How many ppl in China are having Blm protests? Every region has their own issues and the world will never be unified in terms of conflict within their own sectors, only for worldwide issues like an epidemic or alien invasion or something like that. I dont know why African American athletes are always asked to speak up on topics not directly affecting them when they have their own issues within their own residence

He was asked because it directly impacted the league. He could have said he wasn't educated on the issue, or it's not his place to speak, but he attacked someone who was trying to speak up.

I don't really know how people can not have a problem with what LeBron said and then call people out for saying All Lives Matter or whatever. Both try and take away from that specific cause.

He's asking people who aren't impacted by police violence against black American to care about the issue. Despite saying the opposite about another issue. Doesn't mean what he's fighting for means less. It just means people are less likely to back his words or have sympathy for the cause he supports.

If you want to change things you have to get people on your side, not divide and alienate them.

lebron's been a shill for authority ever since he first left cleveland

[freethedevil]

Y'all remember people saying Dame is better than AD? Pepperidge Farm remembers

I stand by it

You do ? Completely different tiers of players. AD has career playoff numbers that stack up even against Jordan and Lebron and I believe they will hold up even with deep runs into CF and Finals, he's just that good a player, an unbelievable talent.

Dame, great player, not really all that when teams clamp down on him in the playoffs. Even on offense alone, there's a very serious case for taking AD over Dame, AD's offense is so much more resilient. Sure he can't be the offensive anchor/initiatior for a contender, but Dame can't either...

ad did vastly better against the warriors when they were actually one of the best defenses ever than damian could manage when they were just average in 2019.

[MyUniBroDavis]

I stand by it

You do ? Completely different tiers of players. AD has career playoff numbers that stack up even against Jordan and Lebron and I believe they will hold up even with deep runs into CF and Finals, he's just that good a player, an unbelievable talent.

Dame, great player, not really all that when teams clamp down on him in the playoffs. Even on offense alone, there's a very serious case for taking AD over Dame, AD's offense is so much more resilient. Sure he can't be the offensive anchor/initiatior for a contender, but Dame can't either...

ad did vastly better against the warriors when they were actually one of the best defenses ever than damian could manage when they were just average in 2019.

I think people put too much stock into how good a defense is vs the strengths of that defense vs how they effect that player

Its fully possible for someone to struggle more against a bottom 10 defense than a top 10 one because of matchups, and not on an individual basis

[MisterHibachi]

Lakers need to put this game away early in the second half because this is already one of the most boring games of the playoffs even with a close score.

[toodles23]

JR must have smoked about a pound of hash before the game. He wasn't even close to being inbounds on that play

[GSP]

I wonder how the rotations will look against Houston specially with Javale and Dwights minutes

[Heej]

Lakers need to put this game away early in the second half because this is already one of the most boring games of the playoffs even with a close score.

Idk what you're talking about man, this is peak Ewing Theory in effect rn. I find this fascinating. I don't think they'll be able to claw very far from the Blazers this game. This is gonna be a wire to wire victory.

[Heej]

Loving the zone card being played on the Lakers btw.

[freethedevil]

timbers 8 for 12 from 3 without lillard. How much of this is shooting, and how much of this is th elakers perimiter d

[MisterHibachi]

Has Kuz ever made a reverse layup.

[Bidofo]

Oh man his shot looks good again. I’m getting 2018 vibes now...

[Heej]

Oh man his shot looks good again. I’m getting 2018 vibes now...

Same thing