Trade Talk (Part Four)

[TheProdigy]

Btw, I always get Miles Bridges mixed up with Mikal Bridges on the Suns. Miles has a lot of athleticism, and in his second year is starting to score and rebound. However, he is under-sized at 6-6, only an average three point shooter, and had the worst defensive metrics on the team. Maybe he isn’t the type of guy you move down from 1 to 3 for. What else does CHA have that fits is better?

I don't think Bridges fits Minnesota's offense. He would be asked to shoot a lot of 3s which isn't his best skill. I would only do a 1 for 3/Bridges deal if Minnesota could flip Bridges. GIVE ME PJ!!!

PJ Washington would be a great fit for us. He's a good 3 point shooter with above average length for his height. There's alot of potential on the defensive end.

[KGdaBom]

Will you be upset with this scenario:

Trade with ATL:
Out: #1, Spellman, Evans
In: #6, Сam Reddish or De'Andre Hunter

Trade with ORL:
Out: #17, JJ
In: Aaron Gordon

Sign and trade Juancho for future SRP.

Draft OO, Bolmaro (eurostash). Resign, Beasley, Jmac, Juancho.

KAT/OO/Reid
Gordon/Juancho/Vanderbilt
Reddish/Layman/Culver
Beasley/Okogie/Nowell
DLo/Culver/JMac

I could live with that. As a matter of Fact Reddish and OO plus getting Gordon for Practically nothing is a wet dream.

[KGdaBom]

Btw, I always get Miles Bridges mixed up with Mikal Bridges on the Suns. Miles has a lot of athleticism, and in his second year is starting to score and rebound. However, he is under-sized at 6-6, only an average three point shooter, and had the worst defensive metrics on the team. Maybe he isn’t the type of guy you move down from 1 to 3 for. What else does CHA have that fits is better?

I don't think Bridges fits Minnesota's offense. He would be asked to shoot a lot of 3s which isn't his best skill. I would only do a 1 for 3/Bridges deal if Minnesota could flip Bridges. GIVE ME PJ!!!

PJ Washington would be a great fit for us. He's a good 3 point shooter with above average length for his height. There's alot of potential on the defensive end.

washington would make it well worth trading back from 1 to 3.

[Baseline81]

Will you be upset with this scenario:

Trade with ATL:
Out: #1, Spellman, Evans
In: #6, Сam Reddish or De'Andre Hunter

Trade with ORL:
Out: #17, JJ
In: Aaron Gordon

Sign and trade Juancho for future SRP.

Draft OO, Bolmaro (eurostash). Resign, Beasley, Jmac, Juancho.

KAT/OO/Reid
Gordon/Juancho/Vanderbilt
Reddish/Layman/Culver
Beasley/Okogie/Nowell
DLo/Culver/JMac

Yes, I will be upset.

Don't get me wrong, such a trade provides good depth, but having the first overall pick allows you the chance at a star. And Rosas is certainly looking for one to pair with Russell and Towns. I don't see stardom in Reddish, Hunter or Okongwu.

[karch34]

I think some of it has to be where you as an organization had Reddish or Hunter last year and if an abbreviated season changed that. Reddish we probably wouldn't have a lot of interest since we went with Culver. Hunter we didn't have a chance to draft and if he was theoretically in the draft this year is he in the conversation for #1?

[KGdaBom]

I think some of it has to be where you as an organization had Reddish or Hunter last year and if an abbreviated season changed that. Reddish we probably wouldn't have a lot of interest since we went with Culver. Hunter we didn't have a chance to draft and if he was theoretically in the draft this year is he in the conversation for #1?

Reddish is bigger than Culver and a natural SF. He started last season poorly, but really came on strong down the stretch. My interest in him would be pretty high. Plus I love OO7. And Gordon for nothing but 17 and a salary swap. Sign me up.

[shrink]

Will you be upset with this scenario:

Trade with ATL:
Out: #1, Spellman, Evans
In: #6, Сam Reddish or De'Andre Hunter

Trade with ORL:
Out: #17, JJ
In: Aaron Gordon

Sign and trade Juancho for future SRP.

Draft OO, Bolmaro (eurostash). Resign, Beasley, Jmac, Juancho.

KAT/OO/Reid
Gordon/Juancho/Vanderbilt
Reddish/Layman/Culver
Beasley/Okogie/Nowell
DLo/Culver/JMac

I wouldn’t be excited, but I’d say that’s fair. I could see both teams saying no as well. The Hawks traded up in the 2019 draft to select Hunter at #4 (#8, #17, #35, are bad salary). I like Hunter over Cam, but Cam looked better later in the season, and if we had Aaron a Gordon, getting Hunter at PF wouldn’t be as important.

I’m not sure why I spaced on PJ Washington. I would definitely prefer him and #3, than the Hawks guys and #6. I would point out also, if we made the CHA deal and got the #3, there is certainly still the possibility ATL’s man, Edwards, could still be on the board at 3, and we may still make a deal if we wanted. We’d have the most leverage in that scenario too, because Edwards fits our current roster best, and we’d be a threat to just keep him.

[KGdaBom]

Will you be upset with this scenario:

Trade with ATL:
Out: #1, Spellman, Evans
In: #6, Сam Reddish or De'Andre Hunter

Trade with ORL:
Out: #17, JJ
In: Aaron Gordon

Sign and trade Juancho for future SRP.

Draft OO, Bolmaro (eurostash). Resign, Beasley, Jmac, Juancho.

KAT/OO/Reid
Gordon/Juancho/Vanderbilt
Reddish/Layman/Culver
Beasley/Okogie/Nowell
DLo/Culver/JMac

I wouldn’t be excited, but I’d say that’s fair. I could see both teams saying no as well. The Hawks traded up in the 2019 draft to select Hunter at #4 (#8, #17, #35, are bad salary). I like Hunter over Cam, but Cam looked better later in the season, and if we had Aaron a Gordon, getting Hunter at PF wouldn’t be as important.

I’m not sure why I spaced on PJ Washington. I would definitely prefer him and #3, than the Hawks guys and #6. I would point out also, if we made the CHA deal and got the #3, we certainly could still have ATL’s man Edwards at 3, and still make a deal if we wanted. We’d have the most leverage in that scenario too, because Edwards fits our current roster best, and we’d be a threat to just keep him.

Assuming Wiseman goes #1 to Charlotte why are you sure that Edwards wouldn't go #2 to the Warriors or whoever they trade the pick to?

[shrink]

Will you be upset with this scenario:

Trade with ATL:
Out: #1, Spellman, Evans
In: #6, Сam Reddish or De'Andre Hunter

Trade with ORL:
Out: #17, JJ
In: Aaron Gordon

Sign and trade Juancho for future SRP.

Draft OO, Bolmaro (eurostash). Resign, Beasley, Jmac, Juancho.

KAT/OO/Reid
Gordon/Juancho/Vanderbilt
Reddish/Layman/Culver
Beasley/Okogie/Nowell
DLo/Culver/JMac

I wouldn’t be excited, but I’d say that’s fair. I could see both teams saying no as well. The Hawks traded up in the 2019 draft to select Hunter at #4 (#8, #17, #35, are bad salary). I like Hunter over Cam, but Cam looked better later in the season, and if we had Aaron a Gordon, getting Hunter at PF wouldn’t be as important.

I’m not sure why I spaced on PJ Washington. I would definitely prefer him and #3, than the Hawks guys and #6. I would point out also, if we made the CHA deal and got the #3, we certainly could still have ATL’s man Edwards at 3, and still make a deal if we wanted. We’d have the most leverage in that scenario too, because Edwards fits our current roster best, and we’d be a threat to just keep him.

Assuming Wiseman goes #1 to Charlotte why are you sure that Edwards wouldn't go #2 to the Warriors or whoever they trade the pick to?

Maybe I didn’t word that as well as I did on the last page. To me “would have” and “could have” mean different things. Thanks - I’ll edit it to make it clearer.

Like I said earlier, we don’t know who GSW would pick to trade, but the possibility certainly exists that Edwards could still be on the board at #3.

And if LaMelo is still there at #3, maybe we would want to deal him to NYK for #8 and their 2021 1st (we could debate protections). Lots of possibilities if we get back the #3.

[KGdaBom]

I wouldn’t be excited, but I’d say that’s fair. I could see both teams saying no as well. The Hawks traded up in the 2019 draft to select Hunter at #4 (#8, #17, #35, are bad salary). I like Hunter over Cam, but Cam looked better later in the season, and if we had Aaron a Gordon, getting Hunter at PF wouldn’t be as important.

I’m not sure why I spaced on PJ Washington. I would definitely prefer him and #3, than the Hawks guys and #6. I would point out also, if we made the CHA deal and got the #3, we certainly could still have ATL’s man Edwards at 3, and still make a deal if we wanted. We’d have the most leverage in that scenario too, because Edwards fits our current roster best, and we’d be a threat to just keep him.

Assuming Wiseman goes #1 to Charlotte why are you sure that Edwards wouldn't go #2 to the Warriors or whoever they trade the pick to?

Maybe I didn’t word that as well as I did on the last page. To me “would have” and “could have” mean different things. Thanks - I’ll edit it to make it clearer.

Like I said earlier, we don’t know who GSW would pick to trade, but the possibility certainly exists that Edwards could still be on the board at #3.

And if LaMelo is still there at #3, maybe we would want to deal him to NYK for #8 and their 2021 1st (we could debate protections). Lots of possibilities if we get back the #3.

Yep would and could make quite a difference. I think you need to remove the word certainly to clarify better. When you say certainly could it sounds like a guarantee to me. My best guess is that Edwards goes 2 if we trade to 3. I still love Okongwu at pick 3, but I don't know if Rosas does. If the Knicks want to trade up to 3 for Ball I'm guessing they deal with Warriors for 2. Do we want Edwards? Avdija seems likely for us due to all our international connections. Okongwu is of course my preference. We don't have a legit PF on the team IMO. I don't think playing two SGs or SFs, depending on how you see Culver and Okogie,instead of having a PF is a recipe for success.

[Baseline81]

Yep would and could make quite a difference. I think you need to remove the word certainly to clarify better. When you say certainly could it sounds like a guarantee to me. My best guess is that Edwards goes 2 if we trade to 3. I still love Okongwu at pick 3, but I don't know if Rosas does. If the Knicks want to trade up to 3 for Ball I'm guessing they deal with Warriors for 2. Do we want Edwards? Avdija seems likely for us due to all our international connections. Okongwu is of course my preference. We don't have a legit PF on the team IMO. I don't think playing two SGs or SFs, depending on how you see Culver and Okogie,instead of having a PF is a recipe for success.

You continue to shout Okongwu from the rooftops. However, I think it was Klomp who said, he's just not the PF archetype Rosas is looking for. There's been connections with Avdija. Have we even heard any links to Okongwu?

[KGdaBom]

Yep would and could make quite a difference. I think you need to remove the word certainly to clarify better. When you say certainly could it sounds like a guarantee to me. My best guess is that Edwards goes 2 if we trade to 3. I still love Okongwu at pick 3, but I don't know if Rosas does. If the Knicks want to trade up to 3 for Ball I'm guessing they deal with Warriors for 2. Do we want Edwards? Avdija seems likely for us due to all our international connections. Okongwu is of course my preference. We don't have a legit PF on the team IMO. I don't think playing two SGs or SFs, depending on how you see Culver and Okogie,instead of having a PF is a recipe for success.

You continue to shout Okongwu from the rooftops. However, I think it was Klomp who said, he's just not the PF archetype Rosas is looking for. Have we even heard any links to him?

Klomp and I disagree about the level of Defense Okongwu could provide. I don't care about archetypes. That's just the cool buzzword these days. Is the player good or isn't he. Does he fill a need for our team. I believe we desperately need a strong defending PF to pair with KAT.
As of right now Wiseman is first on my wish list and Okongwu is second. As for links about Okongwu just Google him and you will find more than you need. If you're looking for a link about how much Gersson wants Okongwu I don't think you can find any links about which players Gersson wants in this draft. If you care about which player all the national media think we should take they are extremely in favor of Edwards. Due to that I have to keep an open mind about Edwards as those people probably aren't all stupid.
Some probably are extremely stupid, but they can't all be .

[Jedzz]

Here's an unpopular blowit up and start over thought, especially maybe in this draft.

Draft Wiserman 1.
- - Trade Towns to Warriors for #2, next yrs' FRP returned, plus future FRP picks, plus Looney.
Draft Edwards 2 with the gsw pick.
- - Offer/Trade Dlo plus #17 for AZ's Oubre, Rubio plus their #10. (DLo joins Booker in AZ but they pay for it and make Booker happy)
Draft what you feel is best still there at 10.

Give up on building around #1 Towns and start building around #1 Wiseman and #2 Edwards. Add a few FRPs for near future. Let Warriors reign for a couple more years.

[Baseline81]

Klomp and I disagree about the level of Defense Okongwu could provide. I don't care about archetypes. That's just the cool buzzword these days. Is the player good or isn't he. Does he fill a need for our team. I believe we desperately need a strong defending PF to pair with KAT.
As of right now Wiseman is first on my wish list and Okongwu is second. As for links about Okongwu just Google him and you will find more than you need. If you're looking for a link about how much Gersson wants Okongwu I don't think you can find any links about which players Gersson wants in this draft. If you care about which player all the national media think we should take they are extremely in favor of Edwards. Due to that I have to keep an open mind about Edwards as those people probably aren't all stupid.
Some probably are extremely stupid, but they can't all be.

We can both opine about how the Wolves should be built, but one fact is how Rosas brought in certain players to fit the system he and Saunders run. To start the season, Rosas brought in FA Vonleh and Bell, two athletic bigs who rebound the ball. That experiment didn't last long. At the trade deadline, Hernangomez arrived and was inserted into the lineup. It looks as if a pattern is forming -- PF that can shoot from beyond the arc. Again, this has nothing to do with my thoughts on Okongwu as a prospect.

As for links, Doogie said in a podcast Rosas likes Ball. I was just wondering if you saw or heard somewhere about Okongwu.

[gandlogo]

I think some of it has to be where you as an organization had Reddish or Hunter last year and if an abbreviated season changed that. Reddish we probably wouldn't have a lot of interest since we went with Culver. Hunter we didn't have a chance to draft and if he was theoretically in the draft this year is he in the conversation for #1?

Reddish is bigger than Culver and a natural SF. He started last season poorly, but really came on strong down the stretch. My interest in him would be pretty high. Plus I love OO7. And Gordon for nothing but 17 and a salary swap. Sign me up.

Reddish is a SG, not a natural SF. He may be taller than Culver, but he’s not as physical. I tracked him as a Duke recruit in the AAU circuit. Watched him a ton at Duke. He’s a very talented kid. Great shooting stroke that was inconsistent in college, but finally started to see results late in the NBA season. He’s better suited at SG. In the MN 1-3-1 system, he’s just another wing like Beasley and Juancho. But if you need him to put a body on somebody, Culver or Okogie are better options at SF - despite their weaknesses on offense.

[Baseline81]

Found this while perusing the Knicks board:

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[IceManBK1]

Found this while perusing the Knicks board:

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Lol would you guys trade down with the Knicks? They probly wouldn't offer us Mitchell Robinson. What if they offer us #8, RJ Barrett/Randle/Frank Ntilikina for #1, JJ, Culver and filler? Randle to me is on the same level as Aaron Gordon. Borderline allstar. Guys who play average defense and does a bit of everything. But Randle is much better ball handler and rebounder than Gordon. Barrett was #2 pick last yr. I think he's coming along with a yr of exp under his belt. And we just get Ntilikina for defense. As for the #8 pick, maybe we can select Isaac Okoro?

Dlo/Ntilikina
Beasley/Okogie
Barrett/Okoro
Randle/Juancho
Towns/Reid

Atleast the pieces fit. That's a playoff team. 6-8 seed here we come, lol.

[Killboard]

Found this while perusing the Knicks board:

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Fleecing Thibs would be like...

[KGdaBom]

Klomp and I disagree about the level of Defense Okongwu could provide. I don't care about archetypes. That's just the cool buzzword these days. Is the player good or isn't he. Does he fill a need for our team. I believe we desperately need a strong defending PF to pair with KAT.
As of right now Wiseman is first on my wish list and Okongwu is second. As for links about Okongwu just Google him and you will find more than you need. If you're looking for a link about how much Gersson wants Okongwu I don't think you can find any links about which players Gersson wants in this draft. If you care about which player all the national media think we should take they are extremely in favor of Edwards. Due to that I have to keep an open mind about Edwards as those people probably aren't all stupid.
Some probably are extremely stupid, but they can't all be.

We can both opine about how the Wolves should be built, but one fact is how Rosas brought in certain players to fit the system he and Saunders run. To start the season, Rosas brought in FA Vonleh and Bell, two athletic bigs who rebound the ball. That experiment didn't last long. At the trade deadline, Hernangomez arrived and was inserted into the lineup. It looks as if a pattern is forming -- PF that can shoot from beyond the arc. Again, this has nothing to do with my thoughts on Okongwu as a prospect.

As for links, Doogie said in a podcast Rosas likes Ball. I was just wondering if you saw or heard somewhere about Okongwu.

In regards to who Rosas likes I'm only interested in what Rosas says. What Doogie has to say to me has zero relevance. No way in Hell would Rosas reveal his hand. If Rosas is worth his salt as a PoBO he's going to play the media to his advantage. Anything I hear from Doogie I would be more likely to consider false than true. So hearing that he likes Ball makes me very strongly believe that ball is not on his draft radar. I actually can't trust anything he says himself either. It's too the Wolves benefit if nobody knows who he wants and he does nothing but present smoke screens.

[IceManBK1]

Klomp and I disagree about the level of Defense Okongwu could provide. I don't care about archetypes. That's just the cool buzzword these days. Is the player good or isn't he. Does he fill a need for our team. I believe we desperately need a strong defending PF to pair with KAT.
As of right now Wiseman is first on my wish list and Okongwu is second. As for links about Okongwu just Google him and you will find more than you need. If you're looking for a link about how much Gersson wants Okongwu I don't think you can find any links about which players Gersson wants in this draft. If you care about which player all the national media think we should take they are extremely in favor of Edwards. Due to that I have to keep an open mind about Edwards as those people probably aren't all stupid.
Some probably are extremely stupid, but they can't all be.

We can both opine about how the Wolves should be built, but one fact is how Rosas brought in certain players to fit the system he and Saunders run. To start the season, Rosas brought in FA Vonleh and Bell, two athletic bigs who rebound the ball. That experiment didn't last long. At the trade deadline, Hernangomez arrived and was inserted into the lineup. It looks as if a pattern is forming -- PF that can shoot from beyond the arc. Again, this has nothing to do with my thoughts on Okongwu as a prospect.

As for links, Doogie said in a podcast Rosas likes Ball. I was just wondering if you saw or heard somewhere about Okongwu.

In regards to who Rosas likes I'm only interested in what Rosas says. What Doogie has to say to me has zero relevance. No way in Hell would Rosas reveal his hand. If Rosas is worth his salt as a PoBO he's going to play the media to his advantage. Anything I hear from Doogie I would be more likely to consider false than true. So hearing that he likes Ball makes me very strongly believe that ball is not on his draft radar.

please no more balls...last time Lakers replaced dlo with Lonzo Ball, we all know what happened.