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Re: Kristaps Porzingis -- lateral meniscus tear of his right knee 

Post#41 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:18 am

If I had to guess, he’s out till next season
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Post#43 » by ophdog » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:24 am

3toheadmelo wrote:If I had to guess, he’s out till next season



next season starts in a few months that dude gonna miss a lot of games
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Post#44 » by knickstape21 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:26 am

We won the trade because we’re not tied into a max player that simply can’t stay healthy. Wish we made that trade with Boston.

I’ll also take the 2 picks and cap flexibility.
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Post#45 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:32 am

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Post#46 » by FutureKnicksGM » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:33 am

Sucks for KP. Take your time with the recovery though. DAL pick looking good, with the West a blood bath next season. Have no idea why so many are willing to throw away that pick, next years draft will have all star talent late in the lotto.
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Post#47 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:35 am

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Is it safe to say we won the trade now?

I think so...


We got rid of salary and got two mid-late first round picks. They got Timmy and Trey who appear to be solid contributors. Timmy looks good next to Luka.

The whole situation was just a mess. The issue is, could we have done better trading with another team and it appears that was the case.


Trey Burke was signed by Philly then waived, mavs scooped him up when he was a FA since February anyone could have. Him being on the Mavs now isn't even part of the equation.

Timmy looks great because of coaching and Timmy is talented as a shot maker. The Knicks since Woodson have had no type of system in place rendering guys to just do whatever the f*ck they want. I would say Timmy took a lot of shots on our team but I never saw him as a selfish player.



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Post#49 » by RealGM Forums » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:37 am

MaseInYourFace wrote:But yeah him getting hurt obviously evens out that trade for us quite a bit. Him being healthy we were losing that trade big time.


I don’t think too many teams would want to trade value for him at this point.
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Post#50 » by Context » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:41 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Ah, here's where the KP trade gets relitigated for the 23rd time.

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Hey Buzz...we caught a ton of negativity for that trade...

this would have been us:

$27,285,000 $29,467,800 $31,650,600 $33,833,400 $36,016,200


not to mention a reduction in the cap...
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Post#51 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:45 am

FutureKnicksGM wrote:Sucks for KP. Take your time with the recovery though. DAL pick looking good, with the West a blood bath next season. Have no idea why so many are willing to throw away that pick, next years draft will have all star talent late in the lotto.


Any trade involving that 21 DAL pick should have protections.
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Post#52 » by Worst_to_First » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:48 am

knickstape21 wrote:We won the trade because we’re not tied into a max player that simply can’t stay healthy. Wish we made that trade with Boston.

I’ll also take the 2 picks and cap flexibility.


DAJ also helped develop Mitch.

He has his flaws and shortcomings but was a better mentor to Mitch than Kanter.
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Post#53 » by BKlutch » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:54 am

We misunderstood KP while he was here.
He really loved us. He loved us too much. He loved us so much, he still love us. His love for us makes him weak in the knees.

Disclaimer: nothing in the above should be construed as denying he may also have anemia, bones of glass, and a general lack of aggressiveness that is needed to be a great player.
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Post#54 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:59 am

BKlutch wrote:We misunderstood KP while he was here.
He really loved us. He loved us too much. He loved us so much, he still love us. His love for us makes him weak in the knees.

Disclaimer: nothing in the above should be construed as denying he may also have anemia, bones of glass, and a general lack of aggressiveness that is needed to be a great player.


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Post#55 » by Dave_R » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:01 am

Let's be honest -- the trade is looking better for the Knicks now because of: (1) the questionable long term health of KP; and (2) the likely decreasing cap and the large percentage of it KP takes up for the next few years.

But...what did it do for the Knicks? We got a lot of cap space. We can use it to sign free agents or at least broker trades. The bottom line is that we won't know how well the Knicks did until the cap space is actually used (but right now, I'd rather have what we have than have KP back on his salary and with his health).
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Post#56 » by Context » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:04 am

Dave_R wrote:Let's be honest -- the trade is looking better for the Knicks now because of: (1) the questionable long term health of KP; and (2) the likely decreasing cap and the large percentage of it KP takes up for the next few years.

But...what did it do for the Knicks? We got a lot of cap space. We can use it to sign free agents or at least broker trades. The bottom line is that we won't know how well the Knicks did until the cap space is actually used (but right now, I'd rather have what we have than have KP back on his salary and with his health).

did you want to resign KP after the injury when he was still a knick?
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Post#57 » by Oscirus » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:09 am

What kind of **** are they on in the general when they talk about winning said trade even without KP?
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Post#58 » by BKlutch » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:09 am

The KP trade made us sad, but we need to feel better because:
1. KP was never a leader or the dominant player we hoped for. He's a good scorer and second or third option.
2. KP was never strong enough to finish the season as tough as he started it, and good knees or bad, he still isn't
3. His knees are both injured and he isn't heavy on them. His body mechanics are not really suited for the kind of intense stress he subjects them to. It's pretty clear he will have to pace himself and avoid over-exertion for the rest of his career.

We didn't draft who we thought we drafted, so in that sense, too bad for us. But the trade wasn't as bad as we feared. Too bad for Dallas, too.
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Post#59 » by Capn'O » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:15 am

I never wish injury on any player. I do wish for a good draft pick though.

I feel those thoughts can be independent. Sure.
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Post#60 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:19 am

Capn'O wrote:I never wish injury on any player. I do wish for a good draft pick though.

I feel those thoughts can be independent. Sure.


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