Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[DarkXaero]

https://hoopshype.com/2020/08/29/is-caris-levert-brooklyns-third-star-or-should-they-make-a-trade/


Interesting piece from Hoopshype, gives you some insight on Levert's perception around the league right now.

It is exactly like Billy King because you don’t understand that his role would be reduced here.

Beal as a 3rd option gives us what? Maybe 20 points per game?

I’m not trading Dinwiddie, Prince, LeVert, Allen, and a ton of 1st round picks for a glorified Jordan Clarkson.

Beal as a third option still probably gives you close to 25 PPG on high efficiency. He's too good of an offensive player/scorer now to average just 20 PPG. His defense has been bad in last two seasons as a result of greatly increased load on offensive end + Wizards priority on offense (lack of defensive personnel). Previously in his career, he has been a solid defender, and he could get back to that here. Calling him a "glorified Jordan Clarkson" is a joke, and so is labeling a potential trade for him as a "Billy King move".

[DarkXaero]

I feel like a lot of you guys tremendously overrate Caris.

Kleber slides into the starting 4 perfectly and Curry is one of the best shooting bench guards in the league.

In my opinion, you overrate every player in the league, except Nets players.
We don't need a starting 4, there's KD already!

My thoughts exactly lmao u shouldve been around when they thought trading brook lopez for reggie jackson was a “sleeper trade” lmaooo thats when i stopped taking then serious let alone with the whole trade Caris LeVert for jruel holiday or seth curry Lmaoo .riducluous

Whose alt is this?

[DarkXaero]

After seeing many threads about Beal, Gordon, and many of the same players over and over I wanted to discuss a name that I haven't seen.

I was thinking about Tobias Harris and what it would take to get him onto the team.

His horrible contract shouldn't be that big of a problem since we won't have any cap room to speak of with KD and Kyrie on the team anyway.

Philly is a mess right now and I would have to think that he could be had.

From a talent standpoint I don't see why he wouldn't be a valuable contributor if we landed him.

To match salaries Prince (once his new contract kicks in) would be going to Philly.

I also think that Philly would want one of Spencer Dinwiddie, Caris LeVert, or Joe Harris going the other way.

Not sure about what else would be involved to match salaries.

Involving a third team might mean Tobias Harris goes there and someone else comes here.

If DJ or Allen goes out to match salaries, perhaps a third team sends us a center.

There is a lot to unpack with this one but between Allen and Dinwiddie's upcoming contract demands, our needs, and the difficulty some of our current players have sharing the ball there could be an opportunity to improve our team.

Philly is motivated to make some changes so Harris is not untouchable.

I would also think that Philly sends out draft picks to unload this contract.

What do you think?

Do we want any part of this guy?

The problem is that the Tobias Harris contract is so huge in salary that it makes it hard to match. If Philly just wanted to salary dump him, I might be interested but it's just not possible to make the move work. You have to give Prince + Levert (or Dinwiddie) + Temple/fillers to make salaries match. And giving up either one of Dinwiddie or Levert is just not worth it for a player of Tobias Harris caliber, and that horrible contract. It's not that Tobias Harris is a bad player, but that contract is just extremely hard to take.

[Hello Brooklyn]

After seeing many threads about Beal, Gordon, and many of the same players over and over I wanted to discuss a name that I haven't seen.

I was thinking about Tobias Harris and what it would take to get him onto the team.

His horrible contract shouldn't be that big of a problem since we won't have any cap room to speak of with KD and Kyrie on the team anyway.

Philly is a mess right now and I would have to think that he could be had.

From a talent standpoint I don't see why he wouldn't be a valuable contributor if we landed him.

To match salaries Prince (once his new contract kicks in) would be going to Philly.

I also think that Philly would want one of Spencer Dinwiddie, Caris LeVert, or Joe Harris going the other way.

Not sure about what else would be involved to match salaries.

Involving a third team might mean Tobias Harris goes there and someone else comes here.

If DJ or Allen goes out to match salaries, perhaps a third team sends us a center.

There is a lot to unpack with this one but between Allen and Dinwiddie's upcoming contract demands, our needs, and the difficulty some of our current players have sharing the ball there could be an opportunity to improve our team.

Philly is motivated to make some changes so Harris is not untouchable.

I would also think that Philly sends out draft picks to unload this contract.

What do you think?

Do we want any part of this guy?

Tobias Harris is the worst possible option.

He was awful defensively last year and a bad 3 point shooter.

He brings nothing to the table we need. We have enough scorer. We need defensive players and shooters.

Not to mention that hes the worst contract in the league and would be impossible to move if it didn't work it. This would completely hamper our flexibility moving forward.

[Hello Brooklyn]

https://hoopshype.com/2020/08/29/is-caris-levert-brooklyns-third-star-or-should-they-make-a-trade/


Interesting piece from Hoopshype, gives you some insight on Levert's perception around the league right now.

It is exactly like Billy King because you don’t understand that his role would be reduced here.

Beal as a 3rd option gives us what? Maybe 20 points per game?

I’m not trading Dinwiddie, Prince, LeVert, Allen, and a ton of 1st round picks for a glorified Jordan Clarkson.

Beal as a third option still probably gives you close to 25 PPG on high efficiency. He's too good of an offensive player/scorer now to average just 20 PPG. His defense has been bad in last two seasons as a result of greatly increased load on offensive end + Wizards priority on offense (lack of defensive personnel). Previously in his career, he has been a solid defender, and he could get back to that here. Calling him a "glorified Jordan Clarkson" is a joke, and so is labeling a potential trade for him as a "Billy King move".

You're insane if you think Beal will average 25 ppg as a third option.

When has any team ever had 3 players averaging 25?

KD and Kyrie are both probably putting up that much.

Beal will be reduced to a spot up shooter who will get some run with the bench players.

The three star model is overrated anyway. Its better to just have 2 stars and great depth.

Were essentially paying 30 mill for a guy who will be underused. Tying up 90 mill plus in 3 players would ruin our depth and the ability to withstand injury.

[DarkXaero]

It is exactly like Billy King because you don’t understand that his role would be reduced here.

Beal as a 3rd option gives us what? Maybe 20 points per game?

I’m not trading Dinwiddie, Prince, LeVert, Allen, and a ton of 1st round picks for a glorified Jordan Clarkson.

Beal as a third option still probably gives you close to 25 PPG on high efficiency. He's too good of an offensive player/scorer now to average just 20 PPG. His defense has been bad in last two seasons as a result of greatly increased load on offensive end + Wizards priority on offense (lack of defensive personnel). Previously in his career, he has been a solid defender, and he could get back to that here. Calling him a "glorified Jordan Clarkson" is a joke, and so is labeling a potential trade for him as a "Billy King move".

You're insane if you think Beal will average 25 ppg as a third option.

When has any team ever had 3 players averaging 25?

KD and Kyrie are both probably putting up that much.

Beal will be reduced to a spot up shooter who will get some run with the bench players.

The three star model is overrated anyway. Its better to just have 2 stars and great depth.

Were essentially paying 30 mill for a guy who will be underused. Tying up 90 mill plus in 3 players would ruin our depth and the ability to withstand injury.

I said close to 25 PPG. If we had Beal on the team, Kyrie and Beal would options 2a and 2b. The Warriors had Steph averaging 27 PPG, KD averaging 26 PPG, and Klay averaging ~22 PPG (basically what he had pre-KD) last season. Beal is an easily superior scorer to Klay, and can actually lead the bench unit with staggered minutes.

I guess someone should have told Warriors that the 3 (or 4) star model is overrated, and they should have kept Harrison Barnes over KD. Likewise for the big 3 Miami Heat.

[drchaos]

The problem is that the Tobias Harris contract is so huge in salary that it makes it hard to match. If Philly just wanted to salary dump him, I might be interested but it's just not possible to make the move work. You have to give Prince + Levert (or Dinwiddie) + Temple/fillers to make salaries match. And giving up either one of Dinwiddie or Levert is just not worth it for a player of Tobias Harris caliber, and that horrible contract. It's not that Tobias Harris is a bad player, but that contract is just extremely hard to take.

Philly would need to cough up draft picks or something of value to sweeten the pot.

If Harris doesn't fit here maybe he goes to a third team.

Not really sure how that would word but it seems we are beating a dead horse with Beal, etc.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Beal as a third option still probably gives you close to 25 PPG on high efficiency. He's too good of an offensive player/scorer now to average just 20 PPG. His defense has been bad in last two seasons as a result of greatly increased load on offensive end + Wizards priority on offense (lack of defensive personnel). Previously in his career, he has been a solid defender, and he could get back to that here. Calling him a "glorified Jordan Clarkson" is a joke, and so is labeling a potential trade for him as a "Billy King move".

You're insane if you think Beal will average 25 ppg as a third option.

When has any team ever had 3 players averaging 25?

KD and Kyrie are both probably putting up that much.

Beal will be reduced to a spot up shooter who will get some run with the bench players.

The three star model is overrated anyway. Its better to just have 2 stars and great depth.

Were essentially paying 30 mill for a guy who will be underused. Tying up 90 mill plus in 3 players would ruin our depth and the ability to withstand injury.

I said close to 25 PPG. If we had Beal on the team, Kyrie and Beal would options 2a and 2b. The Warriors had Steph averaging 27 PPG, KD averaging 26 PPG, and Klay averaging ~22 PPG (basically what he had pre-KD) last season. Beal is an easily superior scorer to Klay, and can actually lead the bench unit with staggered minutes.

I guess someone should have told Warriors that the 3 (or 4) star model is overrated, and they should have kept Harrison Barnes over KD. Likewise for the big 3 Miami Heat.

When was the last time you had 3 players on a team even average close to 25 PPG? Bosh never even got 20 on the Heatles.

Nor did Love with the Cavs.

Klay was the closest putting up 22 his first year with KD. Then dropping off in his final two. Certainly not 25 like you claim.

I don't see Beal breaking this trend and putting up 25. Not enough shots to go around.

LOL youre comparing us to the Warriors? Klay Thompson is the ultimate off ball star whos an elite defender and one of the greatest shooters of all time.

They were the exception to this rule because Klay is essentially just a supercharged 3&D role player.

Beal is a terrible defender and a good but not that great shooter.

What an idiotic comparison

[Hello Brooklyn]

The more I think about it, the more I feel we need to flip Allen for a defensive wing or shooter.

Hes just too good to be a backup C and were not going to be able to pay him next off season. I don't see him thriving as a backup for Jordan.

[DarkXaero]

You're insane if you think Beal will average 25 ppg as a third option.

When has any team ever had 3 players averaging 25?

KD and Kyrie are both probably putting up that much.

Beal will be reduced to a spot up shooter who will get some run with the bench players.

The three star model is overrated anyway. Its better to just have 2 stars and great depth.

Were essentially paying 30 mill for a guy who will be underused. Tying up 90 mill plus in 3 players would ruin our depth and the ability to withstand injury.

I said close to 25 PPG. If we had Beal on the team, Kyrie and Beal would options 2a and 2b. The Warriors had Steph averaging 27 PPG, KD averaging 26 PPG, and Klay averaging ~22 PPG (basically what he had pre-KD) last season. Beal is an easily superior scorer to Klay, and can actually lead the bench unit with staggered minutes.

I guess someone should have told Warriors that the 3 (or 4) star model is overrated, and they should have kept Harrison Barnes over KD. Likewise for the big 3 Miami Heat.

When was the last time you had 3 players on a team even average close to 25 PPG? Bosh never even got 20 on the Heatles.

Nor did Love with the Cavs.

Klay was the closest putting up 22 his first year with KD. Then dropping off in his final two. Certainly not 25 like you claim.

I don't see Beal breaking this trend and putting up 25. Not enough shots to go around.

LOL youre comparing us to the Warriors? Klay Thompson is the ultimate off ball star whos an elite defender and one of the greatest shooters of all time.

They were the exception to this rule because Klay is essentially just a supercharged 3&D role player.

Beal is a terrible defender and a good but not that great shooter.

What an idiotic comparison

Looks like you're only looking to troll here, because you quote my posts, but then ignore what actually answers your questions, and then you go off on a tangent. Warriors are the last team to do so, and that was only last season...

If you don't think we can accomplish that with KD, Kyrie, and Beal on the team, that's fine, you're free to believe that. Klay is the ultimate off ball star, but Beal is the superior scorer. There are maybe only a handful of guys that can average 30 in this league on above average efficiency. Beal is one of them. Again I didn't say that Beal would average 25 here but he can certainly get close to that. But feel free to ignore that part as well.

It doesn't matter what you or others say, and it doesn't matter whether we get Beal or not; his fit here is completely fine. He's a 27 year old elite scorer who has played plus defense in his career previously, and he knows how to play off ball. No contender has gotten worse in recent memory by adding legitimate stars to their existing all star core. No amount of you flaming my posts or insulting my intelligence is gonna change that.

[MrDollarBills]

I feel like a lot of you guys tremendously overrate Caris.

Kleber slides into the starting 4 perfectly and Curry is one of the best shooting bench guards in the league.

In my opinion, you overrate every player in the league, except Nets players.
We don't need a starting 4, there's KD already!

My thoughts exactly lmao u shouldve been around when they thought trading brook lopez for reggie jackson was a “sleeper trade” lmaooo thats when i stopped taking then serious let alone with the whole trade Caris LeVert for jruel holiday or seth curry Lmaoo .riducluous

I necessarily don't think the idea about Holiday for LeVert is that bad when you consider the fit. However, he is kind of long in the tooth.

Trading for Seth Curry seems like an unnecessary move. We already have Joe Harris, one of the league's elite shooters. we need someone that can fit in the line up at the wing that doesn't need high usage and can defend athletic 2 and 3s.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I said close to 25 PPG. If we had Beal on the team, Kyrie and Beal would options 2a and 2b. The Warriors had Steph averaging 27 PPG, KD averaging 26 PPG, and Klay averaging ~22 PPG (basically what he had pre-KD) last season. Beal is an easily superior scorer to Klay, and can actually lead the bench unit with staggered minutes.

I guess someone should have told Warriors that the 3 (or 4) star model is overrated, and they should have kept Harrison Barnes over KD. Likewise for the big 3 Miami Heat.

When was the last time you had 3 players on a team even average close to 25 PPG? Bosh never even got 20 on the Heatles.

Nor did Love with the Cavs.

Klay was the closest putting up 22 his first year with KD. Then dropping off in his final two. Certainly not 25 like you claim.

I don't see Beal breaking this trend and putting up 25. Not enough shots to go around.

LOL youre comparing us to the Warriors? Klay Thompson is the ultimate off ball star whos an elite defender and one of the greatest shooters of all time.

They were the exception to this rule because Klay is essentially just a supercharged 3&D role player.

Beal is a terrible defender and a good but not that great shooter.

What an idiotic comparison

Looks like you're only looking to troll here, because you quote my posts, but then ignore what actually answers your questions, and then you go off on a tangent. Warriors are the last team to do so, and that was only last season...

If you don't think we can accomplish that with KD, Kyrie, and Beal on the team, that's fine, you're free to believe that. Klay is the ultimate off ball star, but Beal is the superior scorer. There are maybe only a handful of guys that can average 30 in this league on above average efficiency. Beal is one of them. Again I didn't say that Beal would average 25 here but he can certainly get close to that. But feel free to ignore that part as well.

It doesn't matter what you or others say, and it doesn't matter whether we get Beal or not; his fit here is completely fine. He's a 27 year old elite scorer who has played plus defense in his career previously, and he knows how to play off ball. No contender has gotten worse in recent memory by adding legitimate stars to their existing all star core. No amount of you flaming my posts or insulting my intelligence is gonna change that.

Ok bro. You ignore my points and then accuse me of "trolling" instead of actually making a cogent argument

I just explained how most of these 3 team deals are not beneficial. The Ws are the lone exception because Klay is an elite off ball player & defender.

That's the only way it works. I would love to add Klay Thompson to KD & Kyrie. In fact, I would trade Levert and all other assets.

But when you add a player like Beal. It doesn't work as well. Love/Bosh became glorified spot up shooters.

Beal may be a better scorer. We don't need another scorer. Kyrie/KD are both elite scorers. No team needs 3 guys that can put up 25 ppg. Its a waste of money and assets to do that.

LOL you keep saying "close" to 25 PPG is doable when no one has ever done it. Is Klay's 22 PPG in 2017 really "close" to 25 PPG. 3 points is a lot over the course of a year. Especially considering a big reason Klay got there is because KD got injured for a long portion of the season. With a healthy KD he didn't get those numbers the nest 2 years.

In either case, Beal is not going to do something no one has ever done.

Beal has never been a great defender. If we are going to add a "third star" it would be someone who could play elite defense and play off ball. Beal will never be close to an elite defender. He can be below average at best.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Dallas is not going to trade Seth Curry. Dude is one of the most elite shooters in the league.

It's true, Seth is one of the most lethal snipers in the game. However, I think there is still a way that we could pry him away from Dallas.

They are hoping to land a big 2021 free agent (*cough* Giannis *cough"), and they need to dump salary in order to open up Max cap space next summer. We have an opportunity 2 pounce on their cheap, efficient role players who are locked in long-term. It would cost us Dinwiddie and Temple, probably Allen would also have to be in the mix. But if we're getting back one of their Bigs, I would do the deal.

I’m with MDB, no way I’m giving up Allen for Kleber and Curry.

They want Allen we need to start talking Porzingis and we know that’s not happening.

Are you really under the illusion that Allen has more value in the league than Levert?

Theres even a hoopshype article calling him a potential "third star."

You don't trade that for two 8th men. No thanks.

[DarkXaero]

When was the last time you had 3 players on a team even average close to 25 PPG? Bosh never even got 20 on the Heatles.

Nor did Love with the Cavs.

Klay was the closest putting up 22 his first year with KD. Then dropping off in his final two. Certainly not 25 like you claim.

I don't see Beal breaking this trend and putting up 25. Not enough shots to go around.

LOL youre comparing us to the Warriors? Klay Thompson is the ultimate off ball star whos an elite defender and one of the greatest shooters of all time.

They were the exception to this rule because Klay is essentially just a supercharged 3&D role player.

Beal is a terrible defender and a good but not that great shooter.

What an idiotic comparison

Looks like you're only looking to troll here, because you quote my posts, but then ignore what actually answers your questions, and then you go off on a tangent. Warriors are the last team to do so, and that was only last season...

If you don't think we can accomplish that with KD, Kyrie, and Beal on the team, that's fine, you're free to believe that. Klay is the ultimate off ball star, but Beal is the superior scorer. There are maybe only a handful of guys that can average 30 in this league on above average efficiency. Beal is one of them. Again I didn't say that Beal would average 25 here but he can certainly get close to that. But feel free to ignore that part as well.

It doesn't matter what you or others say, and it doesn't matter whether we get Beal or not; his fit here is completely fine. He's a 27 year old elite scorer who has played plus defense in his career previously, and he knows how to play off ball. No contender has gotten worse in recent memory by adding legitimate stars to their existing all star core. No amount of you flaming my posts or insulting my intelligence is gonna change that.

Ok bro. You ignore my points and then accuse me of "trolling" instead of actually making a cogent argument

I just explained how most of these 3 team deals are not beneficial. The Ws are the lone exception because Klay is an elite off ball player & defender.

That's the only way it works. I would love to add Klay Thompson to KD & Kyrie. In fact, I would trade Levert and all other assets.

But when you add a player like Beal. It doesn't work as well. Love/Bosh became glorified spot up shooters.

Beal may be a better scorer. We don't need another scorer. Kyrie/KD are both elite scorers. No team needs 3 guys that can put up 25 ppg. Its a waste of money and assets to do that.

LOL you keep saying "close" to 25 PPG is doable when no one has ever done it. Is Klay's 22 PPG in 2017 really "close" to 25 PPG. 3 points is a lot over the course of a year. Especially considering a big reason Klay got there is because KD got injured for a long portion of the season. With a healthy KD he didn't get those numbers the nest 2 years.

In either case, Beal is not going to do something no one has ever done.

Beal has never been a great defender. If we are going to add a "third star" it would be someone who could play elite defense and play off ball. Beal will never be close to an elite defender. He can be below average at best.

I address everything you say, no matter how nonsensical it is, and I'm quite frankly tired of it. Don't make up bs by throwing in fancy terms to disguise what you're really doing.

Love was never that good of a player, and with Lebron & Kyrie gone, he still can't average 20 PPG. Bosh was a very good player in Toronto, but never an elite level scorer, which is fine as he was a PF. Bosh adjusted extremely well next to two high usage guys in Lebron & Wade, and still gave them close to 20 a game with high level defense and stretch big ability. So that big 3 absolutely worked, and no one has said otherwise. What you do have to explain to me is which big 3 in recent memory actually failed, because as far as I can see, they all won championships. Whether its the Celtics with KG, Pierce, and Ray Allen, or Miami Heatles or the Warriors (with or without KD). People had to sacrifice their numbers, but they achieved the end goal of winning championships. I personally wouldn't care if Beal averages 25 or 20 as a "glorified Jordan Clarkson", as long as we win a championship.

For the last time, last season, Klay averaged 21.7 PPG next to KD (26 PPG), and Steph Curry (27.3 PPG). That actually comes out to an average of 25 PPG for the top 3 scorers on the team. But go ahead, keep ignoring that. Again, Klay is an elite off ball player, but Beal is the more talented scorer, and can actually lead a unit (bench guys for example) by himself. Beal just finished 2nd to only James Harden in scoring. Klay has never averaged 25 a game in his life.

Beal has been an above average defender in his career so saying that he can only be "below average at best" is false. Is Beal going to be an elite defender? No. But evidence exists that he has been a solid defender for most of his NBA career, and its only this season where he had a dramatic drop on that end. And that coincides with previously explained factors, and there's no reason to believe that he can't get back to being a good defender with decreased workload, and more motivation (contending for a title as opposed to playing on a surefire lotto team).

[DarkXaero]

It's true, Seth is one of the most lethal snipers in the game. However, I think there is still a way that we could pry him away from Dallas.

They are hoping to land a big 2021 free agent (*cough* Giannis *cough"), and they need to dump salary in order to open up Max cap space next summer. We have an opportunity 2 pounce on their cheap, efficient role players who are locked in long-term. It would cost us Dinwiddie and Temple, probably Allen would also have to be in the mix. But if we're getting back one of their Bigs, I would do the deal.

I’m with MDB, no way I’m giving up Allen for Kleber and Curry.

They want Allen we need to start talking Porzingis and we know that’s not happening.

Are you really under the illusion that Allen has more value in the league than Levert?

Theres even a hoopshype article calling him a potential "third star."

You don't trade that for two 8th men. No thanks.

Why can't Allen have more value in the league than Levert? He's way younger, still on his rookie deal, not injury prone, and has been a decent starting center in his young career with good upside. Levert has "potential third star" hype, because Levert is seen as a scoring guard, while Allen isn't a scorer.

[ProspectPark]

We need a wing defender at either the two or three spot. KD can play the 4 next to Jarrett Allen.

Agree. KD should play the 4. Allen should start but even if he doesn’t, he should get most of the minutes at C. Something like Allen 26 minutes, DJ 22 minutes.

Most teams just spam PnR or use off ball screens in the half court to create mismatches. Hiding Kyrie will be a problem. The SG he’s paired with has to have the size and length to guard 1-3 and be able to hit shots and make plays if Kyrie has to give it up.

LeVert, Dinwiddie, Harris, (TLC) can all play the 2, but is that the optimal lineup? Our roster is too tilted towards offense and not enough defense imo, especially when you factor in KD and Harris at the wings. The 2 spot is where we really need a defensive difference maker.

Josh Richardson fits the description for what we need, but it would mean having to trade Dinwiddie to get him.

[kamaze]

I feel like a lot of you guys tremendously overrate Caris.

Kleber slides into the starting 4 perfectly and Curry is one of the best shooting bench guards in the league.

In my opinion, you overrate every player in the league, except Nets players.
We don't need a starting 4, there's KD already!

My thoughts exactly lmao u shouldve been around when they thought trading brook lopez for reggie jackson was a “sleeper trade” lmaooo thats when i stopped taking then serious let alone with the whole trade Caris LeVert for jruel holiday or seth curry Lmaoo .riducluous

I remember that one lol

[MrDollarBills]

It's true, Seth is one of the most lethal snipers in the game. However, I think there is still a way that we could pry him away from Dallas.

They are hoping to land a big 2021 free agent (*cough* Giannis *cough"), and they need to dump salary in order to open up Max cap space next summer. We have an opportunity 2 pounce on their cheap, efficient role players who are locked in long-term. It would cost us Dinwiddie and Temple, probably Allen would also have to be in the mix. But if we're getting back one of their Bigs, I would do the deal.

I’m with MDB, no way I’m giving up Allen for Kleber and Curry.

They want Allen we need to start talking Porzingis and we know that’s not happening.

Are you really under the illusion that Allen has more value in the league than Levert?

Theres even a hoopshype article calling him a potential "third star."

You don't trade that for two 8th men. No thanks.

Jarrett Allen is a legitimate starting NBA center and is only 22 years old. I'm pretty sure his value is worth more than two bench players.

[MrDollarBills]

The more I think about it, the more I feel we need to flip Allen for a defensive wing or shooter.

Hes just too good to be a backup C and were not going to be able to pay him next off season. I don't see him thriving as a backup for Jordan.

Why can't we pay Jarrett? The Nets would be making a critical error if they think DeAndre Jordan is going to be a reliable option at center for the length of his contract. The Allen we saw here during the restart was a stud. We need to keep him unless we are being offered a can't miss deal

[vincecarter4pres]

I feel like a lot of you guys tremendously overrate Caris.

Kleber slides into the starting 4 perfectly and Curry is one of the best shooting bench guards in the league.

In my opinion, you overrate every player in the league, except Nets players.
We don't need a starting 4, there's KD already!

My thoughts exactly lmao u shouldve been around when they thought trading brook lopez for reggie jackson was a “sleeper trade” lmaooo thats when i stopped taking then serious let alone with the whole trade Caris LeVert for jruel holiday or seth curry Lmaoo .riducluous

No way my dude, I was anti Reggie Jackson forever, but certainly advocated trading Brook for the right deal and you’re only proving those of us right who felt that way. Brook is a good player and awesome dude, but as a key cog and in his past form was an absolute dinosaur to the modern game. And it was obvious he would only work in certain very specific rosters and lineups. I’ve always maintained Brook was a good player who could have obvious impact if used right on the right team though.

It’s very similar with Caris and the argument is uber strong that trading him for Jrue is the correct move.