Trade Ideas Thread

[Dogen]

Actually want to keep Hield away from Philly. With a healthy and rejuvenated Embiid and Simmons, he could be a starter and shoot to his heart's delight.

On second thought, that's a perfect destination for him. Not sure what they can give up to get him, but seems like a great fit.

[djFan71]

Would NOP do this? Would BOS?

30, Edwards, 47, Poirier for Josh Hart

They get a shot on Edwards and 30 for Hart. We still have 14, 26 and Hart is useful wing.
Not sure if Hart is worth the financials for us - maybe be better to bet on Edwards/30 ourselves.
13 players, over the tax - how much depending on Hayward.
Depending on who you draft, tax MLE/Waters/Semi to round out the roster.

[LewisnotMiller]

Would NOP do this? Would BOS?

30, Edwards, 47, Poirier for Josh Hart

They get a shot on Edwards and 30 for Hart. We still have 14, 26 and Hart is useful wing.
Not sure if Hart is worth the financials for us - maybe be better to bet on Edwards/30 ourselves.
13 players, over the tax - how much depending on Hayward.
Depending on who you draft, tax MLE/Waters/Semi to round out the roster.

Interesting lower end deal. Haven't watched him much since his Lakers days...can he handle enough to spot play point? (Off the bench I mean)

Being able to play him and Langford together where Marcus is starting would be very handy. But man...do NOP really want yet more draft picks?

[Darth Celtic]

Y'all really think Hayward is getting you the number two pick? Really now.

This thread is getting down right bad. Either why in the world would we do it or why would they.

Haven't seen realistic trade in some time.

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[playa-hater]

thought I read somewhere that Collins from Atlanta may be expendable and Ainge loves him.. he shot well from 3 and is a monster on the board, Think he wants a max contract, which is why he is expendable.. Love his fit with Boston.. probably would have to move Hayward plus picks.. I like him more than Myles Turner TBH.

[djFan71]

Y'all really think Hayward is getting you the number two pick? Really now.

This thread is getting down right bad. Either why in the world would we do it or why would they.

Haven't seen realistic trade in some time.

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What do you think GSW does with #2?

Most of the deals involve Hayward and 14, and sometimes Theis. Always shedding a **** contract in Wiggins. And #2 in a draft without clear stars at the top.

Unlikely, sure. I was super skeptical first and still doubt it happens. But, I don't know what else is really out there for them. Aaron Gordon +? Myles Turner +? Love? Horford? CP3? #2 and Wiggins ain't close to Simmons or Embiid range. So, what do you do? Trust the end of Steph/Klay's prime to Wiseman or Okongwu?

I think Hayward is pretty close to the best single player they could get next year for Wiggins/#2. At least debatable against anyone else you come up with. But, he'd need to agree to opt-in before the draft and probably agree to an extension in the lows 20s/yr. And GSW would be in tax hell, etc. So, I'm not sure it's the right way to go for them. Some trade down to a team with a pick higher than 14 and multiple contributors is more likely.

[djFan71]

Would NOP do this? Would BOS?

30, Edwards, 47, Poirier for Josh Hart

They get a shot on Edwards and 30 for Hart. We still have 14, 26 and Hart is useful wing.
Not sure if Hart is worth the financials for us - maybe be better to bet on Edwards/30 ourselves.
13 players, over the tax - how much depending on Hayward.
Depending on who you draft, tax MLE/Waters/Semi to round out the roster.

Interesting lower end deal. Haven't watched him much since his Lakers days...can he handle enough to spot play point? (Off the bench I mean)

Being able to play him and Langford together where Marcus is starting would be very handy. But man...do NOP really want yet more draft picks?

Yeah, I don't know. I'm same - haven't seen much since LAL days and am kinda just going off memory and looking for those smaller type deals since none of the big ones (Hayward related) seem super realistic, or even helpful and I've kinda played them all out.

For NOP side, depends on if they wanna go the semi-process route (sans blatant tanking) and just take tons of shots to find the right guys around Zion, or the Cs approach and surround him with vets. They would have a lot this year, though, with 13, 2 seconds and the new ones. Probably excessive since they start getting the LAL ones soon as well.

[Fencer reregistered]

Y'all really think Hayward is getting you the number two pick? Really now.

This thread is getting down right bad. Either why in the world would we do it or why would they.

Haven't seen realistic trade in some time.

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The Warriors got DLo basically for free.
Then they traded him for Wiggins plus the Minny pick.
So THAT package can be presumed to have negligible value.
How much better than the Minny pick is the #2 in a weak draft?

[LewisnotMiller]

Would NOP do this? Would BOS?

30, Edwards, 47, Poirier for Josh Hart

They get a shot on Edwards and 30 for Hart. We still have 14, 26 and Hart is useful wing.
Not sure if Hart is worth the financials for us - maybe be better to bet on Edwards/30 ourselves.
13 players, over the tax - how much depending on Hayward.
Depending on who you draft, tax MLE/Waters/Semi to round out the roster.

Interesting lower end deal. Haven't watched him much since his Lakers days...can he handle enough to spot play point? (Off the bench I mean)

Being able to play him and Langford together where Marcus is starting would be very handy. But man...do NOP really want yet more draft picks?

Yeah, I don't know. I'm same - haven't seen much since LAL days and am kinda just going off memory and looking for those smaller type deals since none of the big ones (Hayward related) seem super realistic, or even helpful and I've kinda played them all out.

For NOP side, depends on if they wanna go the semi-process route (sans blatant tanking) and just take tons of shots to find the right guys around Zion, or the Cs approach and surround him with vets. They would have a lot this year, though, with 13, 2 seconds and the new ones. Probably excessive since they start getting the LAL ones soon as well.

I asked on the NOP boards what direction they think the team will take in building around Williamson. I'd strongly assume that includes Ball and Ingram, at least for the next year or two. I'll let you know if there is anything interesting from that.

Their boards are a fair bit less active, even during the season, so we'll see.

[100proof]

Y'all really think Hayward is getting you the number two pick? Really now.

This thread is getting down right bad. Either why in the world would we do it or why would they.

Haven't seen realistic trade in some time.

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Would get the number 2 because the draft is very very weak and the pick has wiggins attached to it.

[ConstableGeneva]

It would be fun/funny if Love and Wiggins get traded for each other again. KLove would be a good fit with the Warriors on offense. Then just add a strong defensive wing via FA if possible. Someone like Jerami Grant or Jae Crowder.

Dunno if Love is good enough to give up the #2 considering his contract/age though. Maybe Cavs add a future 1st to cover the discrepancy in value.

[hugepatsfan]

Y'all really think Hayward is getting you the number two pick? Really now.

This thread is getting down right bad. Either why in the world would we do it or why would they.

Haven't seen realistic trade in some time.

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As much a part of that is taking on Wiggins, who is one of the least desirable players/contracts in the NBA. Hayward for #2 is a huge win for us. But Hayward + taking on Wiggins for #2 isn't crazy. I think we'd probably have to throw in #14 too but if we did I think win-now GS would jump at the huge upgrade and still adding a young player.

[Final Boss]

thought I read somewhere that Collins from Atlanta may be expendable and Ainge loves him.. he shot well from 3 and is a monster on the board, Think he wants a max contract, which is why he is expendable.. Love his fit with Boston.. probably would have to move Hayward plus picks.. I like him more than Myles Turner TBH.

I think Collins should be Ainge's number 1 target... it's not often 20+/10+/1.5+ blocks under 23 yo big men who shoot 40% from 3 come available. That said, I'm not sure Hayward plus picks gets it done...I imagine Atlanta could picture Smart as a perfect fit next to Young in the back court and the young leader that team needs...

[djFan71]

Interesting lower end deal. Haven't watched him much since his Lakers days...can he handle enough to spot play point? (Off the bench I mean)

Being able to play him and Langford together where Marcus is starting would be very handy. But man...do NOP really want yet more draft picks?

Yeah, I don't know. I'm same - haven't seen much since LAL days and am kinda just going off memory and looking for those smaller type deals since none of the big ones (Hayward related) seem super realistic, or even helpful and I've kinda played them all out.

For NOP side, depends on if they wanna go the semi-process route (sans blatant tanking) and just take tons of shots to find the right guys around Zion, or the Cs approach and surround him with vets. They would have a lot this year, though, with 13, 2 seconds and the new ones. Probably excessive since they start getting the LAL ones soon as well.

I asked on the NOP boards what direction they think the team will take in building around Williamson. I'd strongly assume that includes Ball and Ingram, at least for the next year or two. I'll let you know if there is anything interesting from that.

Their boards are a fair bit less active, even during the season, so we'll see.

Cool, will be interesting. I saw the same about their board, was pretty light even right after they got #1 last year.

[playa-hater]

thought I read somewhere that Collins from Atlanta may be expendable and Ainge loves him.. he shot well from 3 and is a monster on the board, Think he wants a max contract, which is why he is expendable.. Love his fit with Boston.. probably would have to move Hayward plus picks.. I like him more than Myles Turner TBH.

I think Collins should be Ainge's number 1 target... it's not often 20+/10+/1.5+ blocks under 23 yo big men who shoot 40% from 3 come available. That said, I'm not sure Hayward plus picks gets it done...I imagine Atlanta could picture Smart as a perfect fit next to Young in the back court and the young leader that team needs...

any other year I would have done Smart for Collins etc.. but I am thinking Boston wouldn't since Smart along with Tatum and Brown are doing what is the least talked thing with Boston.. And that is great team defense..

Still also think trading Collins for something good vs nothing if he walks next year for nothing lowers his value a bit..

[BillTheGOAT]

Would NOP do this? Would BOS?

30, Edwards, 47, Poirier for Josh Hart

They get a shot on Edwards and 30 for Hart. We still have 14, 26 and Hart is useful wing.
Not sure if Hart is worth the financials for us - maybe be better to bet on Edwards/30 ourselves.
13 players, over the tax - how much depending on Hayward.
Depending on who you draft, tax MLE/Waters/Semi to round out the roster.

Way too much for Hart first of all. I think Boston would do it if they believed Edwards wasn’t going to be a rotational guy in the league, but I wouldnt give all that for Hart.

[CeltsfaninDC]

Y'all really think Hayward is getting you the number two pick? Really now.

This thread is getting down right bad. Either why in the world would we do it or why would they.

Haven't seen realistic trade in some time.

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Would get the number 2 because the draft is very very weak and the pick has wiggins attached to it.

And who would we want at 2? And I absolutely hate Wiggins on this team. I'd rather give the minutes to Romeo than him

[hugepatsfan]

Actually want to keep Hield away from Philly. With a healthy and rejuvenated Embiid and Simmons, he could be a starter and shoot to his heart's delight.

On second thought, that's a perfect destination for him. Not sure what they can give up to get him, but seems like a great fit.

I agree that Philly would be a great spot for him. On offense it's Simmons at PG, Hield at SG, JRich at SF, Harris at PF and Embiid at Center. And then on defense the versatility of Simmons (can guard 1-4) and JRich (can guard 1-3) allows you to more than adequately hide Hield/Harris with Embiid backing it all up inside.

SAC reportedly had interest in Horford last year and now they have a bit of a tough situation on their hands with Hield being unhappy. I can definitely see a swap of those two, with Philly sending back a couple picks to balance it out. Horford would be a nice fit in SAC where he can go back to playing center but pair well with Bagley who's a natural 4 that needs a stretch 5 next to him.

[hugepatsfan]

Y'all really think Hayward is getting you the number two pick? Really now.

This thread is getting down right bad. Either why in the world would we do it or why would they.

Haven't seen realistic trade in some time.

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Would get the number 2 because the draft is very very weak and the pick has wiggins attached to it.

And who would we want at 2? And I absolutely hate Wiggins on this team. I'd rather give the minutes to Romeo than him

I imagine we would target Wiseman at #2 but really it can be anyone. If there’s a player there that they really, REALLY like and feel would be a great third long term piece alongside Brown/Tatum then that’s a deal I think you gotta explore.

No sane person likes the idea of Wiggins on their team. But I don’t think he’s a team killer or anything. We’d throw him on the bench. It’s not like we have great bench scoring. He’d just be a volume scorer for us off the pine. Deal with it for a year or two and then as the years on his contract dwindle he goes from albatross to salary filler in a trade for a hopefully big star.

It mostly depends on who they’d take at #2. But if they feel like they’re adding another top of the roster piece for long term it’s be worth it IMO. I know people dislike this draft, but people didn’t feel great about Brown and look how he’s turned out. People didn’t look at Tatum as some sure-fire future stud at draft time. Heck, even if it was just a Marcus Smart caliber guy who’s a great piece but not really a building block guy, that’s a pretty significant piece to get on a rookie scale deal. If they have a good evaluation of a guy and think that’s what they’re getting, taking back Wiggins for Hayward I don’t think is an astronomical or unreasonable price to consider.

[Dogen]

Actually want to keep Hield away from Philly. With a healthy and rejuvenated Embiid and Simmons, he could be a starter and shoot to his heart's delight.

On second thought, that's a perfect destination for him. Not sure what they can give up to get him, but seems like a great fit.

I agree that Philly would be a great spot for him. On offense it's Simmons at PG, Hield at SG, JRich at SF, Harris at PF and Embiid at Center. And then on defense the versatility of Simmons (can guard 1-4) and JRich (can guard 1-3) allows you to more than adequately hide Hield/Harris with Embiid backing it all up inside.

SAC reportedly had interest in Horford last year and now they have a bit of a tough situation on their hands with Hield being unhappy. I can definitely see a swap of those two, with Philly sending back a couple picks to balance it out. Horford would be a nice fit in SAC where he can go back to playing center but pair well with Bagley who's a natural 4 that needs a stretch 5 next to him.

Well there you go -- in our trade thread we've managed to fix the 76ers. Lord knows they need it.

You're welcome, Philadelphia!