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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#2061 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:14 am

The Warriors have plenty of options with their No. 2 pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, and there currently isn't much of a consensus as to which prospect they're likely to choose at that spot.

Georgia guard Anthony Edwards would make a lot of sense, but if he goes first overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves as many expect, the Warriors will have to go in another direction. If they opt to choose a wing, the Mercury News' Wes Goldberg has an inclination as to who that might be.

"While the Warriors are high on both Deni Avdija and Isaac Okoro, Avdija would be the likelier pick between them if Anthony Edwards is off the board at No. 2," Goldberg wrote in a recent mailbag. "I’m not as bullish on Okoro’s ability to meet his upside. Though he may be the best one-on-one defender in this class, he has shown little as a ball-handler and shooter, and could end up being more Michael Kidd-Gilchrist than Andre Iguodala."

Avdija has seen his stock soar over the last year, having recently been named the youngest MVP in the history of the Israeli Basketball Premier League. The 19-year-old averaged 13.5 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2.6 assists across 28 regular-season games for Maccabi Tel Aviv, proving to be both a playmaking and perimeter threat.

"Avdija has a higher floor, and higher upside," Goldberg continued. "A natural playmaking forward, the 19-year-old Israel product is a strong finisher with a quick first step capable of stretching his game beyond the arc.

"The Warriors need to get better defensively, but they’re also in need of playmaking. They can’t rely on (Steph) Curry and Draymond Green while hoping for (Andrew) Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Eric Paschall to take major steps. Avdija provides an immediate infusion of playmaking and size, at 6-foot-9, 220 pounds."

Given how crucial wings have become in the modern game, it's easy to understand why the Warriors would be looking to add one early in the draft.

Avdija might be the best of the bunch, but Golden State still has plenty of time to figure that out.


https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-prefer-deni-avdija-isaac-okoro-no-2-pick
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#2062 » by Coxy » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:23 am

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Little Digger wrote:I’ll probably be a little disappointed if we end up drafting somebody at #2


I won't. only because it's been a long time since Warriors had a high profile draft pick. Wiseman, Edwarda, Ball or whoever could be the reboot card we need for the next decade.

Warriors have an awesome opportunity to turn this into a 10 year championship contender team. 2015-2025.


Add this years pick to next years Minny pick, and we could have our next several years looking good, even if we don't get that extra chip for Steph, Klay and Dray.
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Post#2063 » by ahmetmekin » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:42 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
The Warriors have plenty of options with their No. 2 pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, and there currently isn't much of a consensus as to which prospect they're likely to choose at that spot.

Georgia guard Anthony Edwards would make a lot of sense, but if he goes first overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves as many expect, the Warriors will have to go in another direction. If they opt to choose a wing, the Mercury News' Wes Goldberg has an inclination as to who that might be.

"While the Warriors are high on both Deni Avdija and Isaac Okoro, Avdija would be the likelier pick between them if Anthony Edwards is off the board at No. 2," Goldberg wrote in a recent mailbag. "I’m not as bullish on Okoro’s ability to meet his upside. Though he may be the best one-on-one defender in this class, he has shown little as a ball-handler and shooter, and could end up being more Michael Kidd-Gilchrist than Andre Iguodala."

Avdija has seen his stock soar over the last year, having recently been named the youngest MVP in the history of the Israeli Basketball Premier League. The 19-year-old averaged 13.5 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2.6 assists across 28 regular-season games for Maccabi Tel Aviv, proving to be both a playmaking and perimeter threat.

"Avdija has a higher floor, and higher upside," Goldberg continued. "A natural playmaking forward, the 19-year-old Israel product is a strong finisher with a quick first step capable of stretching his game beyond the arc.

"The Warriors need to get better defensively, but they’re also in need of playmaking. They can’t rely on (Steph) Curry and Draymond Green while hoping for (Andrew) Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Eric Paschall to take major steps. Avdija provides an immediate infusion of playmaking and size, at 6-foot-9, 220 pounds."

Given how crucial wings have become in the modern game, it's easy to understand why the Warriors would be looking to add one early in the draft.

Avdija might be the best of the bunch, but Golden State still has plenty of time to figure that out.


https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-prefer-deni-avdija-isaac-okoro-no-2-pick


I wonder how reliable Wes Goldberg is as a reporter?
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#2064 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:05 am

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KevinMcreynolds wrote:
The Warriors have plenty of options with their No. 2 pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, and there currently isn't much of a consensus as to which prospect they're likely to choose at that spot.

Georgia guard Anthony Edwards would make a lot of sense, but if he goes first overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves as many expect, the Warriors will have to go in another direction. If they opt to choose a wing, the Mercury News' Wes Goldberg has an inclination as to who that might be.

"While the Warriors are high on both Deni Avdija and Isaac Okoro, Avdija would be the likelier pick between them if Anthony Edwards is off the board at No. 2," Goldberg wrote in a recent mailbag. "I’m not as bullish on Okoro’s ability to meet his upside. Though he may be the best one-on-one defender in this class, he has shown little as a ball-handler and shooter, and could end up being more Michael Kidd-Gilchrist than Andre Iguodala."

Avdija has seen his stock soar over the last year, having recently been named the youngest MVP in the history of the Israeli Basketball Premier League. The 19-year-old averaged 13.5 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2.6 assists across 28 regular-season games for Maccabi Tel Aviv, proving to be both a playmaking and perimeter threat.

"Avdija has a higher floor, and higher upside," Goldberg continued. "A natural playmaking forward, the 19-year-old Israel product is a strong finisher with a quick first step capable of stretching his game beyond the arc.

"The Warriors need to get better defensively, but they’re also in need of playmaking. They can’t rely on (Steph) Curry and Draymond Green while hoping for (Andrew) Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Eric Paschall to take major steps. Avdija provides an immediate infusion of playmaking and size, at 6-foot-9, 220 pounds."

Given how crucial wings have become in the modern game, it's easy to understand why the Warriors would be looking to add one early in the draft.

Avdija might be the best of the bunch, but Golden State still has plenty of time to figure that out.


https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-prefer-deni-avdija-isaac-okoro-no-2-pick


I wonder how reliable Wes Goldberg is as a reporter?


not sure, this his first season at the merc
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#2065 » by Mylie10 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:25 am

No newspaper guys are really getting legit sourcing right now would be my guess. Because they don’t know who they want, or where those players will fall.

As for Avdija...I get a Mario Hezonja vibe from him, and that scares me. I see serviceable, but I think Luka is the main reason this kid is where he is in the draft. What we should have learned by now, is that Luka is on another level.
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Post#2066 » by wco81 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:41 am

Yeah Deni handles it well but I don't see a step back jumper and not sure he's as strong as Luka to be able to finish.

He'd take a lot of contact but a lot of Euros won't go for that.

On the other end, can he defend wings? Probably not so he'd have to be like Luka, an elite offensive player despite shooting poor percentages.
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Post#2067 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:32 am

He seems like a good role player, I don’t want that ****.
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Post#2068 » by Scoots1994 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:41 am

Yeah, Avdija has some holes in his game/game tape/reputation ... just like Edwards, Ball, Wiseman, and pretty much everyone in the top 10.
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Post#2069 » by GQ Hot Dog » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:48 am

Oh man, I just pray the Warriors are smart enough to trust the tape and just draft Williams, pundits, talk show hosts and mock drafts be damned.
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Post#2070 » by Mav_Carter » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:59 am

I'm much higher on Haliburton, Vassell, and Patrick Williams than Wiseman, LaMelo, and Avidja...if Minn somehow screws up and doesn't draft Antman we should definitely trade down or completely out...
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Post#2071 » by Mav_Carter » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:00 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:Oh man, I just pray the Warriors are smart enough to trust the tape and just draft Williams, pundits, talk show hosts and mock drafts be damned.


Yes, he reminds me of Kawhi...
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Post#2072 » by ShayDee » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:24 am

Williams is a worse defender than Wiseman. You heard it here first folks. The only thing that makes him close to Kawhi is his athleticism, his midrange shooting and size. Nothing else compares. Kawhi was a far far far better defensive prospect coming out

Edit: If people are ok with giving a chance for Williams to improve, why not Wiseman? or any other bad defensive player? I just don't get it. Are you really frightened of the #2 pick's contract? Would you really accept taking a far less superior prospect because he is 4 mil cheaper?
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Post#2073 » by superunknown » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:06 am

defense alone is nothing nowadays without a decent offensive game.
the moment the defence alone doesn't pay dividends, what happens?
look at dort the other day in the blow out against the rockets.
guy is supposedely the best harden stopper in the bubble, but offensively is below avg, especially from 3. harden still went for 31 points and dort was atrocious offensively (0/9 from 3. and we're talking about open looks. he was literally left open with meters of space and dared to shoot).
So I don't want to hear how of a good defender or potential good defender prospect X is. That's an added bonus. Main questions are: can prospect X shoot? can he shoot the 3 ball? if he can't create his own shot, can at least knock it down if left open (he will play with steph & klay, so he'll probably have a lot of open looks)? can at least be a serviceable spot-up shooter? maybe he's not a proper shooter now, but can he score ? can he be serviceable offensively? can he put points on the scoreboard?
we've already have dray on the starting lineup who's inconsistent offensively, we don't have any good shooters on the bench at the moment, we don't know if wiggins can be a reliable spot-up shooter and knock-down open looks consistently. we cannot waste that second pick on a player who can't be productive offensively to a certain degree.
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Post#2074 » by Mav_Carter » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:49 pm

Wiseman is the DLo of centers. Very skilled. Not super athletic. Takes too many tough shots. Coasts.
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Post#2075 » by ILOVEIT » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:59 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
The Warriors have plenty of options with their No. 2 pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, and there currently isn't much of a consensus as to which prospect they're likely to choose at that spot.

Georgia guard Anthony Edwards would make a lot of sense, but if he goes first overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves as many expect, the Warriors will have to go in another direction. If they opt to choose a wing, the Mercury News' Wes Goldberg has an inclination as to who that might be.

"While the Warriors are high on both Deni Avdija and Isaac Okoro, Avdija would be the likelier pick between them if Anthony Edwards is off the board at No. 2," Goldberg wrote in a recent mailbag. "I’m not as bullish on Okoro’s ability to meet his upside. Though he may be the best one-on-one defender in this class, he has shown little as a ball-handler and shooter, and could end up being more Michael Kidd-Gilchrist than Andre Iguodala."

Avdija has seen his stock soar over the last year, having recently been named the youngest MVP in the history of the Israeli Basketball Premier League. The 19-year-old averaged 13.5 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2.6 assists across 28 regular-season games for Maccabi Tel Aviv, proving to be both a playmaking and perimeter threat.

"Avdija has a higher floor, and higher upside," Goldberg continued. "A natural playmaking forward, the 19-year-old Israel product is a strong finisher with a quick first step capable of stretching his game beyond the arc.

"The Warriors need to get better defensively, but they’re also in need of playmaking. They can’t rely on (Steph) Curry and Draymond Green while hoping for (Andrew) Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Eric Paschall to take major steps. Avdija provides an immediate infusion of playmaking and size, at 6-foot-9, 220 pounds."

Given how crucial wings have become in the modern game, it's easy to understand why the Warriors would be looking to add one early in the draft.

Avdija might be the best of the bunch, but Golden State still has plenty of time to figure that out.


https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-prefer-deni-avdija-isaac-okoro-no-2-pick


Exactly as I see it. Deni is the guy.
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Post#2076 » by Mylie10 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:10 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:
The Warriors have plenty of options with their No. 2 pick in the 2020 NBA Draft, and there currently isn't much of a consensus as to which prospect they're likely to choose at that spot.

Georgia guard Anthony Edwards would make a lot of sense, but if he goes first overall to the Minnesota Timberwolves as many expect, the Warriors will have to go in another direction. If they opt to choose a wing, the Mercury News' Wes Goldberg has an inclination as to who that might be.

"While the Warriors are high on both Deni Avdija and Isaac Okoro, Avdija would be the likelier pick between them if Anthony Edwards is off the board at No. 2," Goldberg wrote in a recent mailbag. "I’m not as bullish on Okoro’s ability to meet his upside. Though he may be the best one-on-one defender in this class, he has shown little as a ball-handler and shooter, and could end up being more Michael Kidd-Gilchrist than Andre Iguodala."

Avdija has seen his stock soar over the last year, having recently been named the youngest MVP in the history of the Israeli Basketball Premier League. The 19-year-old averaged 13.5 points, 6.1 rebounds and 2.6 assists across 28 regular-season games for Maccabi Tel Aviv, proving to be both a playmaking and perimeter threat.

"Avdija has a higher floor, and higher upside," Goldberg continued. "A natural playmaking forward, the 19-year-old Israel product is a strong finisher with a quick first step capable of stretching his game beyond the arc.

"The Warriors need to get better defensively, but they’re also in need of playmaking. They can’t rely on (Steph) Curry and Draymond Green while hoping for (Andrew) Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Eric Paschall to take major steps. Avdija provides an immediate infusion of playmaking and size, at 6-foot-9, 220 pounds."

Given how crucial wings have become in the modern game, it's easy to understand why the Warriors would be looking to add one early in the draft.

Avdija might be the best of the bunch, but Golden State still has plenty of time to figure that out.


https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-warriors-prefer-deni-avdija-isaac-okoro-no-2-pick


Exactly as I see it. Deni is the guy.


At 2? You guys are crazy
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Post#2077 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:25 pm

both Deni and Okoro at 2 would be an embarrassment...and I like both players
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Post#2078 » by GQ Hot Dog » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:19 pm

ShayDee wrote:Williams is a worse defender than Wiseman. You heard it here first folks. The only thing that makes him close to Kawhi is his athleticism, his midrange shooting and size. Nothing else compares. Kawhi was a far far far better defensive prospect coming out

Edit: If people are ok with giving a chance for Williams to improve, why not Wiseman? or any other bad defensive player? I just don't get it. Are you really frightened of the #2 pick's contract? Would you really accept taking a far less superior prospect because he is 4 mil cheaper?


Williams is an excellent defender, where did you hear that he wasn't?

Dynamic help shot blocker and excellent perimeter defender. Moves his feet well, good lateral quickness, gets in passing lanes, great instincts and recovery and rotation speed. He's the ideal NBA wing defender. Even went to FlaSt because they preached defense first. He's totally focused and dedicated a defender.

Someone saw a PG get by him and decided he was slow. I also saw him stay in front of Cole Anthony the entire length of the court and then pick his pocket. Dude's the best defender in the lottery alongside Okoro and Vassell.
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Post#2079 » by Onus » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:27 pm

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Exactly as I see it. Deni is the guy.


At 2? You guys are crazy

You’re going to lose your mind when the warriors pass on wiseman for Deni at 2
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#2080 » by Mav_Carter » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:41 pm

Here's the plan:

1. Hope Minn is dumb enough to pass on Antman and jump on him if they do which would be Curry part 2.
2. Trade down and get one of the wings they really like + other assets

There's no chance we take Wiseman or Avidja at 2...

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