2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

[darealjuice]

Yeah I'm confident Cole Anthony ends up being a better pro. That North Carolina team was probably the least talented team I can remember from them. Their only passable shooter team was a senior that never cracked the rotation prior to this year. No rotation player outside of Robinson and Anthony shot over 32% from 3. He had no room to work in the paint with guys like Bacot and Brooks playing together so much, and no one to kick out to when he collapsed the defense. He's a 3-level scorer that is comfortable hitting spot-up 3s, and I think he'll have a better A/TO when he has more shooters and space.

Would you rather have than Kira Lewis?

RJ Hamption, Theo Maledon, Tre Jones?

I've had Lewis and Anthony pretty close, but the more I think about it the more I lean toward Anthony. I think Anthony would have thrived in the pace and space offense that Lewis had. His offensive skill set is more refined, he has a more NBA ready body, he gets to the free throw line, and he should be a better playmaker with better fitting talent around him. Lewis is definitely quicker and faster, but Anthony is a good athlete too.

Tre might be able to make it in a similar back-up role to his brother. RJ you need to believe in him improving his jump shot, but he's very athletic with a decent handle. I'll have to watch more on Maledon, he doesn't seem overly quick or fast but I like his size and he seems to be a solid shooter.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I have Lewis slightly ahead of Anthony, I love speed in my PGs. Now Anthony is no slouch athleticly though.

There would be some fun nostalgia with Anthony because as a kid I loved that UNLV team his dad Greg played on.



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[RedIndian]

Yeah I'm confident Cole Anthony ends up being a better pro. That North Carolina team was probably the least talented team I can remember from them. Their only passable shooter team was a senior that never cracked the rotation prior to this year. No rotation player outside of Robinson and Anthony shot over 32% from 3. He had no room to work in the paint with guys like Bacot and Brooks playing together so much, and no one to kick out to when he collapsed the defense. He's a 3-level scorer that is comfortable hitting spot-up 3s, and I think he'll have a better A/TO when he has more shooters and space.

Would you rather have than Kira Lewis?

RJ Hamption, Theo Maledon, Tre Jones?

I've had Lewis and Anthony pretty close, but the more I think about it the more I lean toward Anthony. I think Anthony would have thrived in the pace and space offense that Lewis had. His offensive skill set is more refined, he has a more NBA ready body, he gets to the free throw line, and he should be a better playmaker with better fitting talent around him. Lewis is definitely quicker and faster, but Anthony is a good athlete too.

Tre might be able to make it in a similar back-up role to his brother. RJ you need to believe in him improving his jump shot, but he's very athletic with a decent handle. I'll have to watch more on Maledon, he doesn't seem overly quick or fast but I like his size and he seems to be a solid shooter.

Agree with this. In my view, from a talent perspective alone, Cole Anthony is top 5 in the draft.

- Excellent ball handler. Probably the best in the draft after Lamelo, and better than Kira who's more reliant on speed than craft to get to the rim

- Good first step, and a really strong body which should be able to absorb contract. Very good FT rate. Averaged almost 6 trips to the line. Suggests that he has 3-level scoring ability.

- Very solid looking jump shot, and the ability to create space with the handle and pull-up. My one concern with Kira is that he seems to either attack the rim or shoot off the catch. Not sure if his handles are advanced enough yet to have a sophisticated pull-up game. I also worry a bit about his really thin frame.

- The most intriguing part of his game seems to be of course his excellent rebounding ability for a guard - averaged 5.7 rebounds a game. For a guy who's 6'2 with a 6'5 wingspan, that's really impressive. Now I don't think he has much switching potential given his lack of length, but as a point of attack defender, I think he'll be quite good. And if the likes of Lowry, Paul, FVV, PatBev and our own Jevon Carter have shown, being a good point-of-attack defender is a valuable skill in its own right.

The real concern with him is his poor shot selection and efficiency, but I think a lot of those issues will get allayed in the pros.

[bhawk]

Grant Riller says hello. Riller over Cole all day for me. Similar sized players and Cole is certainly younger, but I'll take the better ball handler and better finisher all day... and that player is Grant Riller. Grant looks special. Cole looked looked out-classed and struggled in the games I watched. Pass on Cole. Don't see it.

[bhawk]

Pages 61 and 62 have the good Riller stuff. Can someone past the Tankathon comparison Riller vs. Cole? Ghost?

[cberry78]

Pages 61 and 62 have the good Riller stuff. Can someone past the Tankathon comparison Riller vs. Cole? Ghost?

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=cole-anthony--grant-riller

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[bwgood77]

Grant Riller says hello. Riller over Cole all day for me. Similar sized players and Cole is certainly younger, but I'll take the better ball handler and better finisher all day... and that player is Grant Riller. Grant looks special. Cole looked looked out-classed and struggled in the games I watched. Pass on Cole. Don't see it.

I picked out the higher ranked guys on tankathon. They have Riller 52 on their big board and 45 in their mock.

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His new mock lines up with pretty much exactly how i see things working out #1-#10 (Excluding any trades, which there is bound to be at least 1 or 2). Also, im looking at it for team needs and not on BPA.

1.Wolves - Edwards: One of the drafts top names and fills a major position of need at SG
2. Warriors - Wiseman: GS set at PG/SG/SF/PF for the next 4 seasons. They really have no C besides Chriss.
3. Hornets - ??Avdija??: Dont see Jordan wanting to be involved with Lavar or the Ball family. Spent major $$ on Rozier.
4. Bulls - Ball: Dont think he is better than White, but they need to make a splash with a big name.
5. Cav's - Hayes or Okoro: They have 5 PG's (All defenders with no offense) no real SG, and are set at PF/C. Wing
6. Hawks - Vassell: Wing defender (They have a handful, but with questionable talent). Set at PG/PF/C
7. Pistons - Nesmith: DET needs alot, but they address their scoring issues (#25 in the NBA). Helps fill SG/SF need.
8. Knicks - ?Toppin?: Total crapshoot and clusterf**k. They need everything. Positions most safe are C and PF, but i wouldnt be surprised to see them grab one anyway, specially with Toppin still on the board. New FO could look to make a big splash with a big name, which would be Toppin, instead of grabbing a guy that would be more in need like Haliburton. I think they try to make a deal to get a top pick and get Ball, but if they stay @8 Its hard to pass on Toppin.
9. Wiz - Okongwu: Weak in the SF/PF department.
10. Suns - Haliburton: Low ceiling but high floor. Hard to see JJ pass him up if he is still on the board.

[Wilber85]

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His new mock lines up with pretty much exactly how i see things working out #1-#10 (Excluding any trades, which there is bound to be at least 1 or 2). Also, im looking at it for team needs and not on BPA.

1.Wolves - Edwards: One of the drafts top names and fills a major position of need at SG
2. Warriors - Wiseman: GS set at PG/SG/SF/PF for the next 4 seasons. They really have no C besides Chriss.
3. Hornets - ??Avdija??: Dont see Jordan wanting to be involved with Lavar or the Ball family. Spent major $$ on Rozier.
4. Bulls - Ball: Dont think he is better than White, but they need to make a splash with a big name.
5. Cav's - Hayes or Okoro: They have 5 PG's (All defenders with no offense) no real SG, and are set at PF/C. Wing
6. Hawks - Vassell: Wing defender (They have a handful, but with questionable talent). Set at PG/PF/C
7. Pistons - Nesmith: DET needs alot, but they address their scoring issues (#25 in the NBA). Helps fill SG/SF need.
8. Knicks - ?Toppin?: Total crapshoot and clusterf**k. They need everything. Positions most safe are C and PF, but i wouldnt be surprised to see them grab one anyway, specially with Toppin still on the board. New FO could look to make a big splash with a big name, which would be Toppin, instead of grabbing a guy that would be more in need like Haliburton. I think they try to make a deal to get a top pick and get Ball, but if they stay @8 Its hard to pass on Toppin.
9. Wiz - Okongwu: Weak in the SF/PF department.
10. Suns - Haliburton: Low ceiling but high floor. Hard to see JJ pass him up if he is still on the board.

I see knicks getting Halliburton or Hayes if he is available

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His new mock lines up with pretty much exactly how i see things working out #1-#10 (Excluding any trades, which there is bound to be at least 1 or 2). Also, im looking at it for team needs and not on BPA.

1.Wolves - Edwards: One of the drafts top names and fills a major position of need at SG
2. Warriors - Wiseman: GS set at PG/SG/SF/PF for the next 4 seasons. They really have no C besides Chriss.
3. Hornets - ??Avdija??: Dont see Jordan wanting to be involved with Lavar or the Ball family. Spent major $$ on Rozier.
4. Bulls - Ball: Dont think he is better than White, but they need to make a splash with a big name.
5. Cav's - Hayes or Okoro: They have 5 PG's (All defenders with no offense) no real SG, and are set at PF/C. Wing
6. Hawks - Vassell: Wing defender (They have a handful, but with questionable talent). Set at PG/PF/C
7. Pistons - Nesmith: DET needs alot, but they address their scoring issues (#25 in the NBA). Helps fill SG/SF need.
8. Knicks - ?Toppin?: Total crapshoot and clusterf**k. They need everything. Positions most safe are C and PF, but i wouldnt be surprised to see them grab one anyway, specially with Toppin still on the board. New FO could look to make a big splash with a big name, which would be Toppin, instead of grabbing a guy that would be more in need like Haliburton. I think they try to make a deal to get a top pick and get Ball, but if they stay @8 Its hard to pass on Toppin.
9. Wiz - Okongwu: Weak in the SF/PF department.
10. Suns - Haliburton: Low ceiling but high floor. Hard to see JJ pass him up if he is still on the board.

I see knicks getting Halliburton or Hayes if he is available

Yes, I will agree that I don't see any way in which Either Haliburton or Hayes would get past all of Atlanta/ Chicago/ Detroit/ New York, Much less even Charlotte or Golden state. It would truly be an anomaly of epic proportions for either of them to fall past those teams before us. Having said that, Of the 2, My preference would be Hayes. I say this as Haliburtons' lack of strength/ weight, And lack of midrange game concern me. However it plays out will be very interesting.

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It mentions 3 specific names that I'm personally really high on, And whom I think should all be very strong considerations at 10, IF Vassell or Toppin or Hayes are already gone off the board. Especially Jalen Smith!
A few things of note mentioned:

1- Jalen Smith

Last year, Smith became one of six NCAA players since 1992-93 to average at least 10 rebounds, two blocks and a three-point make.

The 6'10" power forward/center improved his body significantly, resulting in more offensive rebounds (94th percentile) and transition scoring (99th percentile). But it's still his shooting that could help lead to late-lottery interest after he made 32 of 87 threes, some off pick-and-pops and most by spotting up.

2- Kira Lewis

Lewis was cooking before the pandemic arrived, averaging 23.2 points (shooting 46.3 percent from deep) and 6.7 assists over his final nine SEC games.

He's viewed as the draft's fastest point guard with the ball, capable of taking an outlet pass from baseline to baseline for a bucket in four seconds

3- Tyrell Terry

Opinions vary on Tyrell Terry. Skeptics question his thin frame and lack of athleticism, leading to some late-first to second-round projections. However, his sharp skills, advanced shooting, IQ and flash could create the perception of upside. And it seems possible a late-lottery team shows interest in chasing it.

One scout told Bleacher Report he compared Terry's smooth offensive delivery and touch (not his ceiling) to Stephen Curry and Trae Young. Nobody projects a star like either; rather, they've raised the possibility that Terry can compensate for his underwhelming physical traits with skill and intangibles.

Terry averaged 14.6 points on 40.8 percent shooting from three, 89.1 percent from the free-throw line, 50.0 percent catch-and-shooting (99th percentile) and 11-of-19 off screens (95th percentile). He's a highly convincing shot-maker with NBA range.

He even shot 61.5 percent at the rim, a comforting number for those worried about his lack of strength and explosion.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Some suns mentions in here. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29793884/nba-draft-buzz-league-insiders-warriors-trades-top-prospects?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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[Saberestar]

Some suns mentions in here. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29793884/nba-draft-buzz-league-insiders-warriors-trades-top-prospects?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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What league insiders are saying: Two teams repeatedly came up as active trade candidates: the Atlanta Hawks (No. 6) and Phoenix Suns (No. 10).

Both have young talent and ownership expects them to compete for the playoffs. Insiders could see both moving their pick if the right veteran player comes along. Each team is also projected to have cap space to help facilitate a deal, if necessary.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Some suns mentions in here. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29793884/nba-draft-buzz-league-insiders-warriors-trades-top-prospects?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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What league insiders are saying: Two teams repeatedly came up as active trade candidates: the Atlanta Hawks (No. 6) and Phoenix Suns (No. 10).

Both have young talent and ownership expects them to compete for the playoffs. Insiders could see both moving their pick if the right veteran player comes along. Each team is also projected to have cap space to help facilitate a deal, if necessary.

Perhaps, But for who really?
This seems more like random speculation as typical this time of the offseason in order to drum up interest possibly?
Although the suns have shown to be pretty cryptic in the plans, Leaving fans in suspense when there trades come out of nowhere that is expected. IF it is a strong possibility, Then knowing Sarver, Would any potential plans have to be aligned to his proclivity for cap savings recently. And who would that best describe as a trade target. Someone who would actually save us money both in the long and short term in a trade. Any specific ideas on likely candidates?