Trade Ideas Thread

[djFan71]

Since we fixed Philly, here's turning GSW into a mega-tax monster. While also helping ourselves.
https://tradenba.com/trades/hx0mRtJvB

GSW: Hayward, Capela for Wiggins, #2, 21 MIN 1st
BOS: Snell, #6 for Hayward, #26, #30, Poirier
ATL: Wiggins, #2, #26, 21 MIN 1st for Dedmon, Capela, #6
DET: Dedmon, Poirier, #30 for Snell.

ATL loads up on picks for taking on Wiggins and getting rid of centers. Take Wiseman instead. Which gives them money for Collins' extension.
GSW gets Hayward AND takes Capela into their TPE. Loses Wiggins. Gives picks.
BOS get Okongwu at #6, Snell. Well under the tax.
DET: Roughly equal money, but they get an extra pick

Kemba, Jaylen, Tatum, Snell, Theis
Smart, Romeo, Grant, Okongwu, Kanter
Edwards, RWIII, 14
MLE

That's $122.6M with 13 players. So, you can use the non-tax MLE for spot 14.
Add 2nd/vet min/Waters/Wanamaker/whatevs for 15 if you want.

Big downside to me is Golden State is stacked. But let the west fight it out and we'll deal with whoever makes it to the finals.
And, we lose talent for next year. But hopefully Okongwu, 14, MLE make up for that going forward.

Spoiler:

Standard caveat. We're still probably better keeping Hayward and loading up on even more wings and keeping the bargain bigs. But Okongwu may be worth it. I don't really know.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Since we fixed Philly, here's turning GSW into a mega-tax monster. While also helping ourselves.
https://tradenba.com/trades/hx0mRtJvB

GSW: Hayward, Capela for Wiggins, #2, 21 MIN 1st
BOS: Snell, #6 for Hayward, #26, #30, Poirier
ATL: Wiggins, #2, #26, 21 MIN 1st for Dedmon, Capela, #6
DET: Dedmon, Poirier, #30 for Snell.

ATL loads up on picks for taking on Wiggins and getting rid of centers. Take Wiseman instead. Which gives them money for Collins' extension.
GSW gets Hayward AND takes Capela into their TPE. Loses Wiggins. Gives picks.
BOS get Okongwu at #6, Snell. Well under the tax.
DET: Roughly equal money, but they get an extra pick

Kemba, Jaylen, Tatum, Snell, Theis
Smart, Romeo, Grant, Okongwu, Kanter
Edwards, RWIII, 14
MLE

That's $122.6M with 13 players. So, you can use the non-tax MLE for spot 14.
Add 2nd/vet min/Waters/Wanamaker/whatevs for 15 if you want.

Big downside to me is Golden State is stacked. But let the west fight it out and we'll deal with whoever makes it to the finals.
And, we lose talent for next year. But hopefully Okongwu, 14, MLE make up for that going forward.

Spoiler:

Standard caveat. We're still probably better keeping Hayward and loading up on even more wings and keeping the bargain bigs. But Okongwu may be worth it. I don't really know.

Looks pretty fair all the way around , although I am thinking GS will seek, and probably find, a younger good vet than Hayward. It will be interesting to see what kind of offers GS gets.

[djFan71]

Looks pretty fair all the way around , although I am thinking GS will seek, and probably find, a younger good vet than Hayward. It will be interesting to see what kind of offers GS gets.

Yeah, I'm kinda fascinated to see what they end up with. In my deal, they have a great shot at at title in the next 2-3 years, but are just bleeding tax money the whole time and have no future sustainable assets. Ideally you get the golden win-now young player by coughing up #2, I just don't know who that is that's available.

Most likely they gunk up the works and no major trades happen pre-draft until #2 gets decided.

[100proof]

thought I read somewhere that Collins from Atlanta may be expendable and Ainge loves him.. he shot well from 3 and is a monster on the board, Think he wants a max contract, which is why he is expendable.. Love his fit with Boston.. probably would have to move Hayward plus picks.. I like him more than Myles Turner TBH.

I think Collins should be Ainge's number 1 target... it's not often 20+/10+/1.5+ blocks under 23 yo big men who shoot 40% from 3 come available. That said, I'm not sure Hayward plus picks gets it done...I imagine Atlanta could picture Smart as a perfect fit next to Young in the back court and the young leader that team needs...

Perhaps thinking too small.

Hayward and 26 to GSW
#2 and filler for collins
Wiggins and 14 to a team somewhere. (Charlotte, detroit, philly are prime examples)

Question is what gets added to #2 to net the team john collins.

Maybe theis and hayward to gsw
Wiggins and poirier to philly
#2, paschall or looney to atlanta
Horford, collins to boston.

Maybe?

[djFan71]

thought I read somewhere that Collins from Atlanta may be expendable and Ainge loves him.. he shot well from 3 and is a monster on the board, Think he wants a max contract, which is why he is expendable.. Love his fit with Boston.. probably would have to move Hayward plus picks.. I like him more than Myles Turner TBH.

I think Collins should be Ainge's number 1 target... it's not often 20+/10+/1.5+ blocks under 23 yo big men who shoot 40% from 3 come available. That said, I'm not sure Hayward plus picks gets it done...I imagine Atlanta could picture Smart as a perfect fit next to Young in the back court and the young leader that team needs...

Perhaps thinking too small.

Hayward and 26 to GSW
#2 and filler for collins
Wiggins and 14 to a team somewhere. (Charlotte, detroit, philly are prime examples)

Question is what gets added to #2 to net the team john collins.

Maybe theis and hayward to gsw
Wiggins and poirier to philly
#2, paschall or looney to atlanta
Horford, collins to boston.

Maybe?

Collins isn't anywhere near that good, is he? Maybe I haven't watched him enough.

ATL gets #2, another asset and not Wiggins for him?
We give up Hayward, Theis and either 14 & 26 or take back Horford?

[MagicBagley18]

So how we getting harden my fellow capologists lol

[Darth Celtic]

So how we getting harden my fellow capologists lol

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

[MagicBagley18]

So how we getting harden my fellow capologists lol

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

You’d think they want to get some younger talent back? or the motivation is strictly getting Hayward on last year of his contract and picks.....depends on motivation.

I mean I’m just thinking out loud really if your Philly Simmons+ for harden ? Even tho Simmons is sooo much younger. Problem with harden is his contract is 40+ next year but I mean could Brooklyn pair harden and Durant together again and form a super team?

[MagicBagley18]

So how we getting harden my fellow capologists lol

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

Plus kemba at 32, Jaylen at 24, harden at 40+ and Tatums max is ridiculous lol

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

So how we getting harden my fellow capologists lol

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

[MagicBagley18]

So how we getting harden my fellow capologists lol

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

I agree. Really I’m just messing around bc I don’t think Morey will ever trade harden, he just keeps shuffling deck chairs. to get harden you’d have to give up brown to start the convo most likely and then for $$$ purposes smart (don’t shoot the messenger I’m not suggesting it) just to get close to 41 in salary


He’s older and he hasn’t ever been a guy who takes care his body at an elite level but he’s a generational scorer (keyword is scorer) who doesn’t depend too much on athleticism so he’s game should age somewhat decently unless he eats himself out of elite status but baring that I think there would be a decent trade market for him.

[MagicBagley18]

So how we getting harden my fellow capologists lol

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

You’d have to move cp3 first which I’m sure they’ll plan on trying but cp3 and harden can’t be on the same team again, but then if you’re okc I doubt they’d give up SGA to get harden back and have nothing around him. Sga is their building block.

[bucknersrevenge]

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

I agree. Really I’m just messing around bc I don’t think Morey will ever trade harden, he just keeps shuffling deck chairs. to get harden you’d have to give up brown to start the convo most likely and then for $$$ purposes smart (don’t shoot the messenger I’m not suggesting it) just to get close to 41 in salary


He’s older and he hasn’t ever been a guy who takes care his body at an elite level but he’s a generational scorer (keyword is scorer) who doesn’t depend too much on athleticism so he’s game should age somewhat decently unless he eats himself out of elite status but baring that I think there would be a decent trade market for him.

What about Hayward for Eric Gordon and Robert Covington as the basis for a deal? That would be close right? Would totally elongate our rotation. Gordon and Covington are the perfect complements to our Core 4 and would totally excel here. Consolidates talent for Houston and lets them out of Gordon's contract so they can hit free agency again.

[Darthlukey]

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

You’d have to move cp3 first which I’m sure they’ll plan on trying but cp3 and harden can’t be on the same team again, but then if you’re okc I doubt they’d give up SGA to get harden back and have nothing around him. Sga is their building block.

Given how well OKC have played and how CP3 was such a big part of that, he may easier to move than 12 months ago. Plus there is one year less on his deal now too

[MagicBagley18]

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

You’d have to move cp3 first which I’m sure they’ll plan on trying but cp3 and harden can’t be on the same team again, but then if you’re okc I doubt they’d give up SGA to get harden back and have nothing around him. Sga is their building block.

Given how well OKC have played and how CP3 was such a big part of that, he may easier to move than 12 months ago. Plus there is one year less on his deal now too

Yea def easier to move

[Darthlukey]

very easy as long as Hayward opts in to his last year of deal. Hayward, Romeo, Edwards and a ton for Harden works financially.

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

I agree. Really I’m just messing around bc I don’t think Morey will ever trade harden, he just keeps shuffling deck chairs. to get harden you’d have to give up brown to start the convo most likely and then for $$$ purposes smart (don’t shoot the messenger I’m not suggesting it) just to get close to 41 in salary


He’s older and he hasn’t ever been a guy who takes care his body at an elite level but he’s a generational scorer (keyword is scorer) who doesn’t depend too much on athleticism so he’s game should age somewhat decently unless he eats himself out of elite status but baring that I think there would be a decent trade market for him.

Gotta assume houston could always move him to a team like the knicks, who keep striking out on stars. Don't know how much they can offer the rockets though

[MagicBagley18]

Not enough. If I'm Houston and I'm looking to trade Harden for cap relief, I call up OKC and see if I can get expirings, SGA and some of my picks back, as well as some of those Clipper picks.

I agree. Really I’m just messing around bc I don’t think Morey will ever trade harden, he just keeps shuffling deck chairs. to get harden you’d have to give up brown to start the convo most likely and then for $$$ purposes smart (don’t shoot the messenger I’m not suggesting it) just to get close to 41 in salary


He’s older and he hasn’t ever been a guy who takes care his body at an elite level but he’s a generational scorer (keyword is scorer) who doesn’t depend too much on athleticism so he’s game should age somewhat decently unless he eats himself out of elite status but baring that I think there would be a decent trade market for him.

What about Hayward for Eric Gordon and Robert Covington as the basis for a deal? That would be close right? Would totally elongate our rotation. Gordon and Covington are the perfect complements to our Core 4 and would totally excel here. Consolidates talent for Houston and lets them out of Gordon's contract so they can hit free agency again.

That’s interesting too. Never thought about it- I was just throwing **** at the wind on how we could add a top 6 mvp caliber guy to a superstar in the making tatum for fun

[snowman]

How about Semi for a bag of chips from any team that will take him. Oh I forgot, he has a QO for next season. If we let him walk, we can split the bag of chips !!!!!

[bucknersrevenge]

How about Hayward and Langford for Buddy Hield and Bjelica?

Sac gets a reset for a guy they have coming off their bench right now and is not really working. They get cap space and a young guard. We get a complements to the Core 4 who can space like crazy. Later Hield can be a trade asset for a future trade of a star if need be.

[Parliament10]

Here's my two Draft/Trade Scenarios

Trade Scenario #1
BOS Out: Hayward #14, #30 -- KEEP (#26, #47)
BOS In--: Turner, Lamb, #2

GS Out: Wiggins, #2 -- KEEP (#48, #51)
GS In--: Hayward, #14

IND Out: Turner, Lamb -- KEEP (#54)
IND In--: Wiggins, #30

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Trade Scenario #2
PHI Out: Richardson, #21 -- KEEP (#34, #36, #49, #58)
PHI In--: Lamb

BOS Out: Hayward #14, #30 -- KEEP (#26, #47)
BOS In--: Turner, Richardson, #2

GS Out: Wiggins, #2 -- KEEP (#48, #51)
GS In--: Hayward, #14

IND Out: Turner, Lamb -- KEEP (#54)
IND In--: Wiggins, #21, #30