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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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13%
Scoring Guard
38
62%
Great Shooter
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18%
3&D Wing
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7%
 
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1281 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:31 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Have the feeling we're going to trade AG for Oubre. I think we should get the 10 pick too because hasn't proved that he can stay healthy.

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We offered that, suns werent interested.


That’s not what was reported.
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Post#1282 » by The Effect » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:44 pm

Skin wrote:Cam Johnson turned it on and the Suns are now thinking he's their future at PF. They have likely lost all interest in Gordon. They are willing to move Oubre, but they are trying to use him to move up in the draft. The same way ya'll are trying to use Gordon to move up.

I think with Isaac's injury that Gordon is staying and that we are picking at 15. Period.

Weird to see Cam as a PF
He was a 6'8 SG in college

I know its what he was playing this year, but just weird to see

But i dont think that kills the trade, because with the way they played with bridges over Oubre, good chance oubre is on the bench next year, so its would they rather have AG coming off the bench or Oubre, or even AG as a starter and cam as the scorer off the bench

Still dont see the trade happening, but i dont think its because of cam
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1283 » by fendilim » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:36 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
fendilim wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Have the feeling we're going to trade AG for Oubre. I think we should get the 10 pick too because hasn't proved that he can stay healthy.

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We offered that, suns werent interested.


That’s not what was reported.

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2020/3/6/21168248/suns-made-a-late-push-for-aaron-gordon-at-trade-deadline
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1284 » by IllMagic04 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:58 am

Im not sold on any of these guys enough to trade AG to move up. MAYBE Edwards Id do it. I still believe an AG/JI foward combo can work but we must improve the shooting around it.

I predict Cole Anthony will be gone when we pick. We are the idiots who dont value offense. Most teams do. He struggled a bit on a pretty bad UNC team but the eye test tells me hes gonna be a solid offensive player. I think this draft is gonna be really crazy and unpredictable. I think from pick 4 and on you can toss the mocks out the window. Maybe Im just still hurt that we didnt get Trae Young but Im liking this Tyrell Terry kid so far. Im still researching of course


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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1285 » by basketballRob » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:21 pm

Just noticing Maxey has the same height and wingspan as McCollum. Maxey is listed at 200 lbs and CJ is 201.

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Post#1286 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:52 pm

I'm going all in on Ramsey or Maxey. Both are strong and physical combo guards. Cole Anthony's standing reach is 7'11 and i think he'll be overwhelmed in the NBA.

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Post#1287 » by jonbob17 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:33 pm

I am not sure Ramsey goes in the first round, so that would be a pretty bold pick at 15. I would be much more comfortable with Bane than Ramsey, if we are only focusing on traditional 2s. Ramsey seems like a total gamble with all his skills, but if his shot is real, decent upside, a big if.
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Post#1288 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:39 pm

jonbob17 wrote:I am not sure Ramsey goes in the first round, so that would be a pretty bold pick at 15. I would be much more comfortable with Bane than Ramsey, if we are only focusing on traditional 2s. Ramsey seems like a total gamble with all his skills, but if his shot is real, decent upside, a big if.
Ramsey has a chance to be a lottery pick, especially if he measurements come say his wingspan is 6'10"+.



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Post#1289 » by Creativetran » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:20 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:We are the idiots who dont value offense.

Who needs offense when you got long defenders at every position stopping those guys from scoring /s

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Post#1290 » by dsg2021 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:58 pm

I'm a simple fan. I see a 52 3P% on 4.3 3PM, and 82 FT% on 3.7 FTM and say, "yes"


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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1291 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:34 pm

dsg2021 wrote:I'm a simple fan. I see a 52 3P% on 4.3 3PM, and 82 FT% on 3.7 FTM and say, "yes"


Not sure on him because he didn't play any good teams this year. Last year i believe he shot under 40%.

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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1292 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:12 pm

fendilim wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
fendilim wrote:We offered that, suns werent interested.


That’s not what was reported.

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2020/3/6/21168248/suns-made-a-late-push-for-aaron-gordon-at-trade-deadline


lol

When your article self admittedly relies on “(unconfirmed) reports“ it might be time to give up defending that argument ...
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1293 » by fendilim » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:21 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:


lol

When your article self admittedly relies on “(unconfirmed) reports“ it might be time to give up defending that argument ...
whats the report you’re referring to then? Lol
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1294 » by Ducklett » Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:30 pm

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zaymon wrote:After seeing Mitchell, Murray, even Burke doing well in playoffs i am a little bit higher on Maxey and Cole. Right now there is 19 players i like in the first round. I think we are good at our spot


Gotta be careful with comparisons like this.

Mitchell and Murray were both significantly more effective offensive players in college than Maxey and Anthony and it still took Mitchell three years and Murray four years to crack 2.0 OBPM for a season.

Murray in college
120.2 ORTG

Mitchell in college (as freshman)
116.0 ORTG

Maxey
107.1 ORTG

Anthony
99.9 ORTG

I also would be a little hesitant to put TOO much stock into what guys are doing in the bubble. There's no crowds to swing momentum. There's no travel, so everyone is super well rested. And frankly no one is really playing any kind of tough defense. Scores and statistics are somewhat wildly inflated.


Did you see the team Cole played on though. Might be one of the worst "big" school teams I have seen in years. They were a rec league team without him.

Bamba and Cole are friends and Bamba wants the Magic to draft him so I don't want to draft him.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1295 » by Xatticus » Wed Sep 2, 2020 9:11 pm

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Knightro wrote:
zaymon wrote:After seeing Mitchell, Murray, even Burke doing well in playoffs i am a little bit higher on Maxey and Cole. Right now there is 19 players i like in the first round. I think we are good at our spot


Gotta be careful with comparisons like this.

Mitchell and Murray were both significantly more effective offensive players in college than Maxey and Anthony and it still took Mitchell three years and Murray four years to crack 2.0 OBPM for a season.

Murray in college
120.2 ORTG

Mitchell in college (as freshman)
116.0 ORTG

Maxey
107.1 ORTG

Anthony
99.9 ORTG

I also would be a little hesitant to put TOO much stock into what guys are doing in the bubble. There's no crowds to swing momentum. There's no travel, so everyone is super well rested. And frankly no one is really playing any kind of tough defense. Scores and statistics are somewhat wildly inflated.


Did you see the team Cole played on though. Might be one of the worst "big" school teams I have seen in years. They were a rec league team without him.

Bamba and Cole are friends and Bamba wants the Magic to draft him so I don't want to draft him.


The 3rd, 23rd, and 70th rated prospects in the class of 2019. That would easily be the greatest recruiting class in my school's history.

Anthony isn't a good stats/bad team guy because his stats aren't good. When a guy dominates the offense and everyone around him looks like crap, it's generally safe to assume that he doesn't make his teammates better. All that Anthony has demonstrated thus far is that he can create a lot of shots that he isn't capable of hitting consistently. Rodney Stuckey?
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1296 » by IllMagic04 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 9:24 pm

Xatticus wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Gotta be careful with comparisons like this.

Mitchell and Murray were both significantly more effective offensive players in college than Maxey and Anthony and it still took Mitchell three years and Murray four years to crack 2.0 OBPM for a season.

Murray in college
120.2 ORTG

Mitchell in college (as freshman)
116.0 ORTG

Maxey
107.1 ORTG

Anthony
99.9 ORTG

I also would be a little hesitant to put TOO much stock into what guys are doing in the bubble. There's no crowds to swing momentum. There's no travel, so everyone is super well rested. And frankly no one is really playing any kind of tough defense. Scores and statistics are somewhat wildly inflated.


Did you see the team Cole played on though. Might be one of the worst "big" school teams I have seen in years. They were a rec league team without him.

Bamba and Cole are friends and Bamba wants the Magic to draft him so I don't want to draft him.


The 3rd, 23rd, and 70th rated prospects in the class of 2019. That would easily be the greatest recruiting class in my school's history.

Anthony isn't a good stats/bad team guy because his stats aren't good. When a guy dominates the offense and everyone around him looks like crap, it's generally safe to assume that he doesn't make his teammates better. All that Anthony has demonstrated thus far is that he can create a lot of shots that he isn't capable of hitting consistently. Rodney Stuckey?
Could be. What does the eye test tell you though? I watched him a couple times and the eye test tells me he has the skill set we need. He forced alot of really bad shots for sure. He did not make teamates better either. No doubt about that. But does he have a skill set that we need and can work with? No doubt. I personally dont believe he will be on the board at 15. If he is we gotta consider him.

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Post#1298 » by J the Drafter » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:45 am

IllMagic04 wrote:Could be. What does the eye test tell you though? I watched him a couple times and the eye test tells me he has the skill set we need. He forced alot of really bad shots for sure. He did not make teamates better either. No doubt about that. But does he have a skill set that we need and can work with? No doubt. I personally dont believe he will be on the board at 15. If he is we gotta consider him.

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For comparison’s sake, imagine Fournier facing Cole’s opponents. Fournier would look like a superstar against college kids.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1299 » by pepe1991 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:53 am

Never take a player who thankaton red vs green is all red

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Or guard who's only adventage is rebounding :lol:

Both out of our range probably, but i'm taking Vassell and Tyrese Haliburton if i can move up. Ofc finding somebody to work on Tyerese leg position while shooting to teach him how to not telegraph when he shoots off dribble.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1300 » by drsd » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:28 am

Looking forward Jalen Green could be exactly the player the Magic need to replace Fournier. So: how to trade for a pick that might land #1 or #2 in next year's draft.

Gordon, #15, Orlando's 2022 frp for Cleveland's 2021 frp is a major gamble for both teams (Orlando could draft 5th or 6th in this trade; Cleveland could lose the rights to a player in a protected excellent draft class)./

I am not sure teams will make risk-reward trades, ever, but this kind of gamble is interesting to contemplate.

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