New Head Coach Mega Thread

[EliteSmarts]

figure I'd lost this here as well since we also talked about the coaching search in the 2nd half of the show. We had Rob Schaefer on from NBC Sports Chicago. Have a listen at the links below.

Apple: https://apple.co/2YvcG7i
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2QpSY8w

keep hustling with the podcast man keep putting that good work and it will be a success continue the great work man

[RedBulls23]

figure I'd lost this here as well since we also talked about the coaching search in the 2nd half of the show. We had Rob Schaefer on from NBC Sports Chicago. Have a listen at the links below.

Apple: https://apple.co/2YvcG7i
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2QpSY8w

keep hustling with the podcast man keep putting that good work and it will be a success continue the great work man

Thank you. Appreciate the support!

[dougthonus]

It depends upon the coach. Some guys take over a young team, ask for vet signings and then push player development to the side to help bolster their win portfolio.

That's one of the reasons I want no part of Joerger. Clashes with the FO, usually over player development and not playing young guys enough vs vets.

Look at Atkinson for instance. Dinwiddie credits his development to him. Putting the emphasis on developing guys and crafting roles for them

By this measure we could just say Boylen was a greater player development coach. Yes, you need a head coach that wants to develop young players if you have a young team, but that isn't much of a bar there. I could go in there and roll the ball out for young players.

The assistant coaches are the guys working 1:1 with guys every day that help them with their form, footwork, skills, so having a coach that is committed to playing young players is what you mean by player development, yeah, anyone we bring in should be prepared to do that.

However, back to the original point, I don't think that's what Damian Lillard was describing when he said Vanterpool helped him develop, and he was describing how Vanterpool helped him develop his skills, and that won't be the role that Vanterpool would have if he were head coach here.

[Truebiscuit]

76ers had a bad year considering their expectations. After amassing all those high picks and tanking, they've managed to turn their roster into something that's nothing special. Clearly, they've had bad coaching too. It's hard to be excited that the Bulls got a GM and now maybe a head coach from that organization.

More proof that tanking and rebuilding doesn’t guarantee a championship team. Bulls are so dumb for following that route and fans actually believing that is the only way.

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Tanking and rebuilding wasn't the problem, the league forcing the guy behind the plan and pushing the team to hire Colangelo, who traded the #3 and a future 1st to take Fultz, him getting fired for being an ass, then Brand trading assets for Jimmy, then trading him for Josh Richardson, then giving Harris and Horford deals starting at $60M total is what hurt the team.

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Here is the segment of the Jimmy Butler interview with JJ Redick that people keep mentioning when questioning support for Brett Brown. Seems like there's plenty of better choices, new and experienced, than hiring Brown.

McMillan is interesting but a lot of questions about his offensive strategies or lack of them. I plan to trust AK until given a reason not to.

Yes, Jimmy, you are hard to work with. Every single team you have been on has not wanted you back. Let's see what happens with Miami.

And every single team that has traded him has been worse off. Minny fired its coach/GM and failed to make the playoffs the two years after Jimmy led them there for the first time in 13 years. Bulls fired two coaches and got rid of management. Sixers just fired its coach.

The three teams he's been traded from are watching him in the playoffs.

The Sixers franchise player is tweeting cryptic messages hinting that he wants to play with Jimmy.

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One of the guys the Bulls got for Jimmy was singing his praises last night.

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Like I said: Let's see what happens.

He's got a proven track-record at this point.

[Chi town]

In light of interviews well underway per Woj... I bet despite what AK has said he will have his coach by end of next week and before groups workouts and scrimmages start.

This mini training camp could help the Bulls so much. I expect some significant buzz to come out of it leading up to the draft.

[MrFortune3]

It depends upon the coach. Some guys take over a young team, ask for vet signings and then push player development to the side to help bolster their win portfolio.

That's one of the reasons I want no part of Joerger. Clashes with the FO, usually over player development and not playing young guys enough vs vets.

Look at Atkinson for instance. Dinwiddie credits his development to him. Putting the emphasis on developing guys and crafting roles for them

By this measure we could just say Boylen was a greater player development coach. Yes, you need a head coach that wants to develop young players if you have a young team, but that isn't much of a bar there. I could go in there and roll the ball out for young players.

The assistant coaches are the guys working 1:1 with guys every day that help them with their form, footwork, skills, so having a coach that is committed to playing young players is what you mean by player development, yeah, anyone we bring in should be prepared to do that.

However, back to the original point, I don't think that's what Damian Lillard was describing when he said Vanterpool helped him develop, and he was describing how Vanterpool helped him develop his skills, and that won't be the role that Vanterpool would have if he were head coach here.

There is no measure in which you can claim Boylen was good at anything outside of potentially defense and even the system he employed was flawed given his team set up.
Players outright nearly boycotted him, regressed like crazy under him and wanted out if he was staying.

When I say committed to player development I mean in all facets. Hiring assistants who are going to work with these guys and get them to improve, knowing their personnel and crafting roles to fit them, allowing them to play through mistakes and improve, inspiring confidence in them and helping guide them through walls and rough patches.
That also means you have to have a shared vision with the FO on how best to implement that developmental approach.
You can have the best assistant coaches in the world doing the best job possible and if the head coach isn't in lock step with the approach then it will not matter. It comes from the top, every great franchise experiences this.

That's where a lot of head coaches fail. Just about any coach in the NBA can teach X's and O's. It's how you connect to your team and delegate the vision from the top down to achieve your stated goals that breaks most guys. Sometimes it's getting through to the players mentally that makes more of a difference than what you teach them physically.

[MrFortune3]

In light of interviews well underway per Woj... I bet despite what AK has said he will have his coach by end of next week and before groups workouts and scrimmages start.

This mini training camp could help the Bulls so much. I expect some significant buzz to come out of it leading up to the draft.

I definitely think AK and Evs know who they want. Like others have said, I think he's doing so many interviews to see if his choice is justified, if someone surprises him and also to gauge how the team and it's talent are viewed in the league and how potentially coaches would utilize that talent.

I think we will see the coaching staff come together quickly and also see a interesting structure to it.

[StunnerKO]

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[dougthonus]

When I say committed to player development I mean in all facets. Hiring assistants who are going to work with these guys and get them to improve, knowing their personnel and crafting roles to fit them, allowing them to play through mistakes and improve, inspiring confidence in them and helping guide them through walls and rough patches.
That also means you have to have a shared vision with the FO on how best to implement that developmental approach.
You can have the best assistant coaches in the world doing the best job possible and if the head coach isn't in lock step with the approach then it will not matter. It comes from the top, every great franchise experiences this.

That's where a lot of head coaches fail. Just about any coach in the NBA can teach X's and O's. It's how you connect to your team and delegate the vision from the top down to achieve your stated goals that breaks most guys. Sometimes it's getting through to the players mentally that makes more of a difference than what you teach them physically.

Again, to the relevant point, an assistant that is good at developing a players skills and helping him doesn't have that role as a head coach and isn't doing the same thing. It doesn't mean he won't be good at these other things, but they're different responsibliities.

The fact that someone did skill development with someone in a different job shouldn't mean he'll connect with guys as a leader instead of an assistant especially when he is doling out minutes and other things. The league is full of assistants that were beloved that didn't do well as head coaches once they were also responsible for winning.

Not that I think Vanterpool will be awful or anything, I have no idea on him. I'm just pointing out that Damian Lillard thought he was a good guy at helping him develop skills doesn't translate into a meaningful skills in terms of the different skills he will need to do his role in developing players as a head coach.

[RedBulls23]

Can't go wrong with a Miami guy and he also has HC experience when he coached in the dleague. Won coach of the year.

Younger guy too so maybe he'd be able to connect with today's players.

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His bio on the Heat's official page.

https://www.nba.com/heat/contact/directorycraightml

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Dan Craig begins his 17th year with the HEAT organization and his fourth as Assistant Coach after spending the 2015-16 season as the Head Coach of the Sioux Falls Skyforce, Miami’s NBA G League affiliate. During his tenure with the HEAT he has steadily risen through the ranks of the organization, before being elevated to his current position prior to the 2016-17 season.

A bright and promising prospect in the professional coaching ranks, Craig was invited to spend time as part of Gregg Popovich’s coaching staff at USA Basketball’s Senior National Team training camp in the summer of 2018. His dedication and attention to detail over the years have served the HEAT’s championship efforts on several fronts. His relentless pursuit of perfection has fit in quite well with the HEAT’s championship culture and has rubbed off on his peers and players. He more than rewarded the faith vested in him during his lone season as the Head Coach of the Sioux Falls Skyforce, which proved to be a record-breaking endeavor. He was named the NBA G League Coach of the Year after leading the Skyforce to a league single-season record 40 wins, besting the previous record by two wins. The Skyforce would validate their regular-season success as Craig led them to their first NBA G League title in franchise history.

Craig, who got his first taste of being an NBA head coach on Mar. 25, 2018 in the one-game absence of HEAT Head Coach Erik Spoelstra, has also previously served as Head Coach of Miami’s Summer League teams from 2013-15. After beginning his HEAT career as a video intern in 2003-04, Craig was named Assistant Video Coordinator in 2004-05 and two years later was promoted to Video Coordinator, a role he served for five seasons before being elevated to Video Coordinator/Player Development Coach prior to the 2011-12 season. The following season, Craig was named Assistant Coach/Video Coordinator and then in 2013-14, he was promoted to Assistant Coach/Player Development. During the 2014-15 season, he served as Assistant Coach/Director of Player Development for the HEAT, where he was responsible for game planning and focusing on the development of Miami’s perimeter players.

Prior to joining the HEAT, Craig had a brief stint as a graduate assistant at Bloomsburg University. Throughout the summer months of 2000-04, Craig served as a basketball camp counselor for the Five-Star Basketball Camp, the Boston Celtics Basketball Camp, the Providence College Team Camp, the Merrimack College Basketball Camp, Plymouth State College Basketball Camp, the Raising Expectations Basketball Camp and also directed the Chelmsford Basketball Camp.

Craig is a graduate of Plymouth State University, where he graduated with a degree in marketing. He also played basketball for Plymouth State from 1999-2003 and was named co-captain during his junior and senior seasons. Craig and his wife, Jackie, reside in Coconut Grove with their sons, Brodie and Will.

[MrFortune3]

When I say committed to player development I mean in all facets. Hiring assistants who are going to work with these guys and get them to improve, knowing their personnel and crafting roles to fit them, allowing them to play through mistakes and improve, inspiring confidence in them and helping guide them through walls and rough patches.
That also means you have to have a shared vision with the FO on how best to implement that developmental approach.
You can have the best assistant coaches in the world doing the best job possible and if the head coach isn't in lock step with the approach then it will not matter. It comes from the top, every great franchise experiences this.

That's where a lot of head coaches fail. Just about any coach in the NBA can teach X's and O's. It's how you connect to your team and delegate the vision from the top down to achieve your stated goals that breaks most guys. Sometimes it's getting through to the players mentally that makes more of a difference than what you teach them physically.

Again, to the relevant point, an assistant that is good at developing a players skills and helping him doesn't have that role as a head coach and isn't doing the same thing. It doesn't mean he won't be good at these other things, but they're different responsibliities.

The fact that someone did skill development with someone in a different job shouldn't mean he'll connect with guys as a leader instead of an assistant especially when he is doling out minutes and other things. The league is full of assistants that were beloved that didn't do well as head coaches once they were also responsible for winning.

Not that I think Vanterpool will be awful or anything, I have no idea on him. I'm just pointing out that Damian Lillard thought he was a good guy at helping him develop skills doesn't translate into a meaningful skills in terms of the different skills he will need to do his role in developing players as a head coach.

I understand what you're saying. My point is simply that your stance on player development not being the key thing to hone in on is flawed thinking based upon how this FO is set up and how AK has announced wanting things to go.
Top to bottom it has to be about player development and the HC is going to be critical to that effort.

[MrFortune3]

Can't go wrong with a Miami guy and he also has HC experience when he coached in the dleague. Won coach of the year.

Younger guy too so maybe he'd be able to connect with today's players.

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We seem to have a bit of an obsession with the Heat as an organization. We wanted Simon as GM, now one of their assistants as HC potentially.
Not that I have an issue with that. Riley runs a talented ship.

[bennjuiced34]

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Good video on Craig. Wade, Riley, Spo and Haslem all speak highly on him.

[Chi town]

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His bio on the Heat's official page.

https://www.nba.com/heat/contact/directorycraightml

Spoiler:

Dan Craig begins his 17th year with the HEAT organization and his fourth as Assistant Coach after spending the 2015-16 season as the Head Coach of the Sioux Falls Skyforce, Miami’s NBA G League affiliate. During his tenure with the HEAT he has steadily risen through the ranks of the organization, before being elevated to his current position prior to the 2016-17 season.

A bright and promising prospect in the professional coaching ranks, Craig was invited to spend time as part of Gregg Popovich’s coaching staff at USA Basketball’s Senior National Team training camp in the summer of 2018. His dedication and attention to detail over the years have served the HEAT’s championship efforts on several fronts. His relentless pursuit of perfection has fit in quite well with the HEAT’s championship culture and has rubbed off on his peers and players. He more than rewarded the faith vested in him during his lone season as the Head Coach of the Sioux Falls Skyforce, which proved to be a record-breaking endeavor. He was named the NBA G League Coach of the Year after leading the Skyforce to a league single-season record 40 wins, besting the previous record by two wins. The Skyforce would validate their regular-season success as Craig led them to their first NBA G League title in franchise history.

Craig, who got his first taste of being an NBA head coach on Mar. 25, 2018 in the one-game absence of HEAT Head Coach Erik Spoelstra, has also previously served as Head Coach of Miami’s Summer League teams from 2013-15. After beginning his HEAT career as a video intern in 2003-04, Craig was named Assistant Video Coordinator in 2004-05 and two years later was promoted to Video Coordinator, a role he served for five seasons before being elevated to Video Coordinator/Player Development Coach prior to the 2011-12 season. The following season, Craig was named Assistant Coach/Video Coordinator and then in 2013-14, he was promoted to Assistant Coach/Player Development. During the 2014-15 season, he served as Assistant Coach/Director of Player Development for the HEAT, where he was responsible for game planning and focusing on the development of Miami’s perimeter players.

Prior to joining the HEAT, Craig had a brief stint as a graduate assistant at Bloomsburg University. Throughout the summer months of 2000-04, Craig served as a basketball camp counselor for the Five-Star Basketball Camp, the Boston Celtics Basketball Camp, the Providence College Team Camp, the Merrimack College Basketball Camp, Plymouth State College Basketball Camp, the Raising Expectations Basketball Camp and also directed the Chelmsford Basketball Camp.

Craig is a graduate of Plymouth State University, where he graduated with a degree in marketing. He also played basketball for Plymouth State from 1999-2003 and was named co-captain during his junior and senior seasons. Craig and his wife, Jackie, reside in Coconut Grove with their sons, Brodie and Will.

I like that he has HC experience even in G League and Summer League.

I trust AK to figure out if he’s the next Nick Nurse or not.

[dougthonus]

I understand what you're saying. My point is simply that your stance on player development not being the key thing to hone in on is flawed thinking based upon how this FO is set up and how AK has announced wanting things to go.
Top to bottom it has to be about player development and the HC is going to be critical to that effort.

I agree, and I think we're only arguing semantics really. I also think the head coach needs to prioritize developing and working with young players and being able to manage a young group.

[NecessaryEvil]

I see him being the guy AK goes for.

[sonny]

More proof that tanking and rebuilding doesn’t guarantee a championship team. Bulls are so dumb for following that route and fans actually believing that is the only way.

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Tanking and rebuilding wasn't the problem, the league forcing the guy behind the plan and pushing the team to hire Colangelo, who traded the #3 and a future 1st to take Fultz, him getting fired for being an ass, then Brand trading assets for Jimmy, then trading him for Josh Richardson, then giving Harris and Horford deals starting at $60M total is what hurt the team.

Yes, Jimmy, you are hard to work with. Every single team you have been on has not wanted you back. Let's see what happens with Miami.

And every single team that has traded him has been worse off. Minny fired its coach/GM and failed to make the playoffs the two years after Jimmy led them there for the first time in 13 years. Bulls fired two coaches and got rid of management. Sixers just fired its coach.

The three teams he's been traded from are watching him in the playoffs.

The Sixers franchise player is tweeting cryptic messages hinting that he wants to play with Jimmy.

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One of the guys the Bulls got for Jimmy was singing his praises last night.

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Like I said: Let's see what happens.

He's got a proven track-record at this point.

Track record of what?

Getting traded by management that doesn't know what they're doing, as shown by the fact that 2 out of the 3 FOs of those teams have been replaced?

Teams getting worse after trading him?

[Truebiscuit]

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Tanking and rebuilding wasn't the problem, the league forcing the guy behind the plan and pushing the team to hire Colangelo, who traded the #3 and a future 1st to take Fultz, him getting fired for being an ass, then Brand trading assets for Jimmy, then trading him for Josh Richardson, then giving Harris and Horford deals starting at $60M total is what hurt the team.



And every single team that has traded him has been worse off. Minny fired its coach/GM and failed to make the playoffs the two years after Jimmy led them there for the first time in 13 years. Bulls fired two coaches and got rid of management. Sixers just fired its coach.

The three teams he's been traded from are watching him in the playoffs.

The Sixers franchise player is tweeting cryptic messages hinting that he wants to play with Jimmy.

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One of the guys the Bulls got for Jimmy was singing his praises last night.

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Like I said: Let's see what happens.

He's got a proven track-record at this point.

Track record of what?

Getting traded by management that doesn't know what they're doing, as shown by the fact that 2 out of the 3 FOs of those teams have been replaced?

Teams getting worse after trading him?

Of wearing out his welcome every team he has played for. Every single one. We'll see what he does in Miami once things aren't all rainbows and butterflys.

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They are interviewing him right? So of course they are interested. I hate these kind of reports.